Rant about the flaming here (Was: Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0)

2002-04-09 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 04:52:46PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: * Jeroen Dekkers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Blow off the non-free software user, no. If you have nothing to offer by way of help with vmware itself, then your silence will be enough to indicate that. And the user

Re: Debian's problems, Debian's future

2002-04-08 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 10:28:12PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Jeroen Dekkers | It does also other things, like making distribution creation more | flexible. I'm thinking of having a some kind of package file for every | source package. That would include the current information

Re: mirrors [Re: Release notes]

2002-04-08 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
before most servers have the images. Jeroen Dekkers -- Jabber supporter - http://www.jabber.org Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU supporter - http://www.debian.org http://www.gnu.org IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: Scripts in /etc/init.d Question and Comment.

2002-04-08 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
think this is the right thing, because almost all init scripts can be run by a non-root user in the Hurd. Also the check isn't good enough for SE Linux. Maybe you could do chmod o-x for the all the init scripts or other things, but IMHO those things should not go into Debian. Jeroen Dekkers

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-08 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 05:28:19PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 02:04:12PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: The GNU FDL violates the DFSG ? In case this is true, nearly all KDE packages have to be moved to non-free as they use the GNU FDL for the documentation

Re: The GNU FDL is a free license! (Was: Re: O: gnu-standards -- GNU coding standards)

2002-04-08 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 05:22:53PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 09:29:27PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: IMO, an FDL-licensed document with invariant sections is non-free. As a user of Debian, I'd like to know that they're not installed on my system if I'm only

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-08 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
software, now you get the consequences. Debian doesn't support vmware, so go somewhere else with your vmware problems. (Debian does support plex86 and bochs, BTW) Jeroen Dekkers -- Jabber supporter - http://www.jabber.org Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU supporter - http://www.debian.org

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-07 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 04:12:16AM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 03:03:14AM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: We should not advertise directly or indirectly non-free software. Er, we _host_ non-free software on our servers, and distribute it via our mirror network

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-07 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
because the manpages are under the GNU FDL. Jeroen Dekkers -- Jabber supporter - http://www.jabber.org Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU supporter - http://www.debian.org http://www.gnu.org IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0I7YA1WioQ.pgp Description: PGP signature

The GNU FDL is a free license! (Was: Re: O: gnu-standards -- GNU coding standards)

2002-04-07 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
move all GPL'd software to non-free at same time. Jeroen Dekkers -- Jabber supporter - http://www.jabber.org Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU supporter - http://www.debian.org http://www.gnu.org IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0gjaoQS6XZ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-07 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
-topic. The funny thing is that this is made clear in the thread he pointed at. That thread is a really interested read BTW (it makes me subscribe to debian-legal :-). Jeroen Dekkers -- Jabber supporter - http://www.jabber.org Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU supporter - http

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-06 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
supporting them? Sorry, I think this is ridiculous. Does debconf really need money from a proprietary software company? Why does Debian promote of non-free software (indirectly)? I thought Debian was about free software. Jeroen Dekkers -- Jabber supporter - http://www.jabber.org Jabber ID: [EMAIL

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-06 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 05:25:10PM -0500, Joe Drew wrote: On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 15:09, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: I don't *like* the registration page being hosted on IIS. But I prefer a registration page to no registration page at all. Is it that difficult to make a registration page

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-06 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Sun, Apr 07, 2002 at 12:17:46AM +0100, Thom May wrote: * Jeroen Dekkers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : It subverts my principles (and probably also others). The fact that the company itself is probably also going to distribute non-free software also subverts my principles. The thing

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-06 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 07:30:21PM -0500, Joe Drew wrote: On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 18:59, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: The keyword here is prominent. Yes, it is. The Debian servers don't run non-free software provided by HP and/OR Sun. The debconf2 registration page is hosted on a server

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-06 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 07:30:48PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 17:54, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: The thing I want say is: Debian is about free software, IMHO we should not have such a prominent sponser promoting non-free software. Especially as we probably don't need

Re: serious bug. Evolution and Microsoft mentality.

2002-01-10 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
allocation and not limit you in any way. Jeroen Dekkers -- Jabber supporter - http://www.jabber.org Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU supporter - http://www.debian.org http://www.gnu.org IRC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpb7ykYD6UYl.pgp Description: PGP signature

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