DPL platforms now available

2005-03-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
[Sent on behalf of Manoj since he is unkeyed at present] The platforms for the candidates for Debian Project Leader for the coming year are now available from http://www.debian.org/vote/2005/vote_001 - Matt signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-22 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 04:50:02PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: As I'm responsible for most of dpkg-sig's code (and planned to do some more work in the next two months) I'd like to know if anyone cares about using these binary signatures or if I can invest my time into something that's

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-22 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 10:29:32AM +1100, Brian May wrote: I would speculate debsigs got a name change to dpkg-sig. Can somebody confirm or deny? As Mark said, it's not a name change. The FAQ on the dpkg-sig site (http://dpkg-sig.turmzimmer.net/) has more info. - Matt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 02:08:17AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 11:33:47AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: * Marc Brockschmidt: Today (or last night, whatever), the dak installation on ftp-master was changed to not accept packages that include more than 3 parts, which

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 11:54:33AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 04:37:05PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2005, Anthony Towns wrote: Personally, I think it's cryptographic snake oil, at least in so far A signed deb has a seal of procedence

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 12:30:37PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 09:09:21AM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: 3) I can verify the provenance of a particular package in my own custom repos at any time (did that come from Debian? Did someone build it internally? What's

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 03:48:15PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 02:31:22PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: I think the final judgment in this issue is going to come down to personal taste and needs more than anything else. That's fine for personal repositories, it's

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-24 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 11:38:45AM -, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On Thursday, November 24, 2005 11:17 AM, Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Nov 24, 2005 at 02:11:45PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: [...] On that score, the description for d-d-c says that it includes buildd

Re: dpkg-sig support wanted?

2005-11-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Nov 25, 2005 at 03:22:37PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: A signature in the deb by a random developer is as trustworthy as the changes file and you already trust that. So we are going from snakeoil to snakoil. No harm done. It's not the same, actually. A signature in a .deb needs

Re: Automatic closing of bugs

2005-12-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 05:45:53PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: I just had a bug that I opened (#339832) closed by a changelog entry in a new debconf upload. This is apparently a typo, as the changelog entry claims that the bug it was closing was related to a Swedish translation update.

Re: Automatic closing of bugs

2005-12-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 02:22:41PM +0100, Simon Richter wrote: Matthew Palmer wrote: Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is dig through the Perl code in merkel:/org/bugs.debian.org/scripts and work out how to add this functionality. grin You can use package foo as a command

Re: xmcd

2005-12-17 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 08:37:28PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: does one know why xmcd isn't upgraded since 31 of May in 2003? The package is neither orphaned nor up for adoption, which I would do then. Have you asked the maintainer, Adrian Bridgett? He's around (last made an upload less

Re: Bug#344081: ITP: xen-debiantools -- Tools to manage debian XEN virtual servers

2005-12-19 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:54:26PM +0200, Radu Spineanu wrote: * Package name: xen-debiantools Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : Steve Kemp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Considering the upstream author, have you discussed your plans to upload this with Steve? - Matt signature.asc

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 09:02:09AM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: On Sunday 08 January 2006 07:27, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 03:19:42PM -0500, Frans Jessop wrote: Ubuntu's launchpad is amazing. Do you think it would be helpful if all DD's worked through it on their

Re: packaging problem - no binary

2006-01-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
[This is probably more appropriate for the debian-mentors list] On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 05:47:32PM +0100, Daniel Knabl wrote: |dh_gencontrol |dpkg-gencontrol -ldebian/changelog -isp |-Tdebian/vexim.substvars -Pdebian/vexim dpkg-gencontrol: error: control |file must have at least one

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 04:48:11PM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: On Sunday 08 January 2006 14:32, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 11:25:28AM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: Oh, I never signed an NDA, so I've never seen the code, actually I'm not interested in the code, because

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 11:25:28AM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: On Sunday 08 January 2006 09:49, Matthew Palmer wrote: On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 09:02:09AM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: On Sunday 08 January 2006 07:27, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 03:19:42PM -0500, Frans

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 04:47:56PM +, Martin Meredith wrote: Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 15:19:42 -0500, Frans Jessop [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ubuntu's launchpad is amazing. Do you think it would be helpful if all DD's worked through it on their projects?

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 11:44:57AM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: On Sunday 08 January 2006 10:39, Andrew Suffield wrote: On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 07:49:33PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 09:02:09AM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote: On Sunday 08 January 2006 07:27

Re: Dissection of an Ubuntu PR message

2006-01-13 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 03:03:14PM -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote: On 1/13/06, Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Nusinow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please stop trying to twist my words around. Canonical didn't contribute back. An individual who happened to work for Canonical

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-13 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 01:14:18PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: Some things that it does say: [...] - Ubuntu submits fixes for Debian bugs to the Debian BTS including a patch URL If that said sometimes or some people within Ubuntu, it would be correct. Not every relevant patch ends up in

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-15 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 08:21:20AM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: And on _top_ of that, we have all sorts of gratuitous autotools changes. Let's not forget the random conversion of build systems -- dpatch seems to be a favourite to rewrite perfectly functioning build systems into. This is

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-16 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 08:51:12AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Hello Joey, On Sun, 15 Jan 2006, Joey Hess wrote: Leaving ubuntu out of this, what puzzles me about your message, Raphael, is this: Raphael Hertzog wrote: If you have some uploads pending, and would like to see those

Re: [ad-hominem construct deleted]

2006-01-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 12:30:22PM +0200, Riku Voipio wrote: On Wednesday 18 January 2006 11:01, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: So you are saying it's the Debian Developer's job to pull changes from ubuntu back? If that is an official statement, then that would be useful for a d-d-a mail so we are

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 12:10:54AM +0100, JanC wrote: On 1/17/06, Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about renaming Maintainer to Debian-Maintainer in Ubuntu's binary packages, and having a specific Ubuntu-Maintainer? This should probably happen in a way that all (or most)

Re: klik, loop mounts, and insecurity [was: statement from one of the klik project members]

2006-01-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 03:59:23PM +, Kurt Pfeifle wrote: Wouter Verhelst wrote on debian-devel@lists.debian.org: [Re-adding Cc to Kurt, as he's mentioned he isn't subscribed] On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 01:20:26PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: Kurt Pfeifle wrote: The klik client

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:20:33AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 07:08:38PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: I keep hearing this, but I really don't believe it. In Debian, Maintainer means An individual or group of people primarily responsible for the on-going well being

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 12:41:49PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 07:13:31AM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 09:20:33AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: By way of example, the Debian maintainer is equipped to answer questions like why is the package

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-20 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 01:40:11PM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 08:31:44AM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote: All you'll get is the loud minority having a whinge then, no matter what the outcome. It will certainly beat the hell out of continuing this thread. It will just

Re: For those who care about their packages in Ubuntu

2006-01-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 05:33:33PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sunday 22 January 2006 03:16, David Weinehall wrote: Since all Ubuntu packages are recompiled against a different set of libraries, the bug might not even affect the Debian package, even though they share the same source.

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-29 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 02:58:05PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: There have already been - admittedly sporadic - proposals to rewrite some key parts of the system, like the init scripts or adduser, in python. However, if the proponent knows from the beginning the implementation wouldn't be

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-29 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 04:17:13AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le samedi 28 janvier 2006 à 17:01 -0600, Peter Samuelson a écrit : [Josselin Mouette] Because python and ruby have similar features Same with perl and python. Great. I guess you're going to second the upcoming GR that

Re: when and why did python(-minimal) become essential?

2006-01-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Jan 30, 2006 at 11:03:03AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le lundi 30 janvier 2006 à 10:20 +1100, Matthew Palmer a écrit : On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 02:58:05PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: There have already been - admittedly sporadic - proposals to rewrite some key parts

Re: buildd and experimental

2006-02-28 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 02:46:02AM +0100, Gabor Gombas wrote: On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 01:04:17AM +, Brian M. Carlson wrote: However, the code of conduct seems to point out that one should not Cc someone unless they specifically ask for it (a guideline that you neglected to follow, after

Re: New virtual package: festival-voice (bug#112565)

2003-04-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
. If multiple packages containing the data can be installed, though, you will of course need to use the alternatives system to manage which one gets used. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http

Re: plagiarism of reiserfs by Debian

2003-04-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: plagiarism of reiserfs by Debian

2003-04-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
and pester you with problems instead of setting the whole project off into a paroxym of heated messages (to say the least). -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
). -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, 26 Apr 2003, Nick Phillips wrote: On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 09:20:33AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: Another question, of course, is what does supporting 386s lose us? I've Binary compatibility with other distributions usability of 3rd-party C++ binaries. That was what started

Re: i386 compatibility libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
On 26 Apr 2003, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le sam 26/04/2003 à 02:59, Matthew Palmer a écrit : For the original problem, it surely should be possible to build 386 and 486+ versions of libstdc++ and include both in the distro, with linker magic (or installer magic) to tell the difference

Re: OpenEXR packages

2003-04-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
it for inclusion. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: Time to package simpleinit?

2003-04-26 Thread Matthew Palmer
cause undue disruption to other current functionality, I'd be quite happy to apply the change and reupload ASAP. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: pilot-link in Sid and Sarge: Much bigger question

2003-04-26 Thread Matthew Palmer
probably burn them a Mandrake disc. If they want shiny! then they can have shiny. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: pilot-link in Sid and Sarge: Much bigger question

2003-04-28 Thread Matthew Palmer
experience that new version of A probably requires all sorts of new crap from B anyway... -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: pilot-link in Sid and Sarge: Much bigger question

2003-04-28 Thread Matthew Palmer
source level compatibility are rather rare. You're forgetting the rapid pace of distributed development... -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-12 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Daniel K. Gebhart wrote: Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Tue, May 13, 2003 at 08:36:12AM +1000: *very* serious problem for anyone who starts relying on the binary packages uploaded to m.d.n. What sort of protections do you have in place or plan to put

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Matthew Palmer
as it goes into Debian. Not checking over the source is likely to cause much grief. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Bug#193612: ITP: fbpanel -- A lightwight X11 desktop panel

2003-05-16 Thread Matthew Palmer
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2003-05-17 Severity: wishlist * Package name: fbpanel Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Anatoly Asviyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://fbpanel.sf.net/ * License : BSD Description : A lightweight X11 desktop panel

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
country, or its economy, they shall have to live with the consequences. Boycott us back. Considering the US government screws .au at every opportunity, I doubt we'd even notice. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer

Re: LDAP adduser/deluser

2003-05-26 Thread Matthew Palmer
no need for totally separate adduser and adduser-ldap programs - the two co-exist quite nicely. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: LDAP adduser/deluser

2003-05-27 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, 27 May 2003, Zed Pobre wrote: Could you elaborate on what ways yours works better than the original adduser? I'm sure Roland would love to hear about functionality improvements, and I'd certainly be keen for any improvements to the LDAP-specific code... My version will

Re: LDAP adduser/deluser

2003-05-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, 27 May 2003, Zed Pobre wrote: Could you elaborate on what ways yours works better than the original adduser? I'm sure Roland would love to hear about functionality improvements, and I'd certainly be keen for any improvements to the LDAP-specific code... My

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: Proposal: removing libc5, altgcc and all their old-days dependencies

2003-06-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: maildirmake

2003-06-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
on your usage of maildirmake in this courier-less situation? [1] Arguments as to whether Debian should do this or not should be directed to /dev/null. Thanks Andreas -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek

Re: maildirmake

2003-06-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, David B Harris wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 11:46:48 +1000 (EST) Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I'm wondering about it even more. IMHO `maildirmake' is _very_ necessary for any mail and as it seems

Re: maildirmake

2003-06-24 Thread Matthew Palmer
aesthetic antennae are twitching... -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: Please don't misuse the debian/changelog to close bugs!

2003-06-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
in that version of the package. It implies that versions less than the one in which the changelog entry appear have the bug - which they do not. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au

Re: Windows macro virus

2003-06-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: Bug#198957: ITP: email -- Send email from command line, either via MTA or SMTP, with optional encryption

2003-06-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
be changed to be suitable for the non-free section? I think the only thing needed would be to get an OK for Debian to distribute the program, in modified form. That'd get it into non-free. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew

Re: Windows macro virus

2003-07-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Branden Robinson wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 09:07:25PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: That's odd, because debian-devel@lists.debian.org is a mailing list run on a Debian GNU/Linux machine, which is immune to windows macro virii. You *do* realize that saying virii

Re: Bug#199612: ITP: minido -- A simple, generic, multi-user, database free todo list manager / tracking system written in GTK2

2003-07-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
for another product... -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: Debian 10th birthday gear

2003-07-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
there are Debian boxes, overall, I agree. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer, Geek In Residence http://ieee.uow.edu.au/~mjp16

Re: proposal: per-user temporary directories on by default?

2003-07-25 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 01:27:04PM -0600, Dwayne C. Litzenberger wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 08:43:20AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: On 24-Jul-03, 17:56 (CDT), Dwayne C. Litzenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Systems with large numbers of users (and normally use, for example

Re: Future releases of Debian

2003-07-26 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 12:10:01AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: debconf (important) depends on liblocale-gettext-perl (standard). Presumably liblocale-gettext-perl should become important. Or debconf could be replaced in 'important' with cdebconf, of course. Ouch... g db2: This is

Re: Future releases of Debian

2003-07-26 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 02:45:56AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: db2: This is pretty old... who still uses it, anyway? More specifically, does anyone use libdb2++, and if so, are they only things which aren't supposed to be transitioned? OK, this is an odd list: Package: libdb2++

Re: Future releases of Debian

2003-07-26 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 11:39:38AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 07:10:06PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: And, quite honestly, animals should probably disappear. When all of a maintainer's packages were NMU'd into stable, and they haven't moved since, it's time to say

Re: hey

2003-07-28 Thread Matthew Palmer
[It might also be a good idea to wrap your postings] On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 01:07:46PM +0200, Xavier Roche wrote: It might be a good idea to reject MIME messages in -devel? Do we need attachments? (patchs can be inserted in the message body) GPG/MIME is nice. And attached patches make things

Re: setuid/setgid binaries contained in the Debian repository.

2003-08-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 10:08:17AM +0200, Micha? Politowski wrote: On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:30:11 +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2003 at 01:17:01PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote: http://www.steve.org.uk/cgi-bin/debian/index.cgi If you're just scanning for binaries with s bits

Data loss: suggestions for handling

2003-08-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
The latest upstream version of a package I've begun to maintain, IRM, has a problem in that a portion of the data in the system (relating to software and licence assignment) can't be upgraded along with the rest of the database - the schema is totally different. I've thought about it for a while,

Re: Data loss: suggestions for handling

2003-08-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 01:59:43PM +0200, Roland Mas wrote: Matthew Palmer (2003-08-01 19:51:46 +1000) : The latest upstream version of a package I've begun to maintain, IRM, has a problem in that a portion of the data in the system (relating to software and licence assignment) can't

Re: Data loss: suggestions for handling

2003-08-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 08:04:09AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: * Matthew Palmer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: - dump the old software tables and store the dump somewhere, giving pointers to the dump in all sorts of useful places. But if I put it somewhere temporary (/tmp

Re: Data loss: suggestions for handling

2003-08-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 11:36:52AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 07:51:46PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: The latest upstream version of a package I've begun to maintain, IRM, has a problem in that a portion of the data in the system (relating to software and licence

Re: [PROPOSAL] Debian Release Plan

2003-08-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Aug 02, 2003 at 01:21:52PM -0500, Thomas Smith wrote: architecture combination) release would be like at any time. It becomes more complicated when dealing with RC bugs than it is with the buildds, because they don't have architecture tags (some of them have [subject prefixes] but I

Re: NM non-process

2003-08-06 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 11:10:08AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Adam Majer | My definition of MIA for DD: Doesn't fix release critical bugs for | his/her package(s) within a week or two and doesn't respond to | direct emails about those bugs. I guess I'm MIA, then, since I have an RC

Re: NM non-process

2003-08-06 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 11:58:22AM -0500, Adam Majer wrote: IMHO, people should not package or take over a package that they do not understand how it works. For example, a kernel maintainer [...] People should maintain packages they are qualified to maintain Well, I see you're taking your own

Re: Packaging some Redhat admin tools

2003-08-07 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 11:04:45AM +0200, C?dric Delfosse wrote: So, I wonder if someone has already built a package from a SRPM package I certainly haven't, but surely you could use RPM to extract the source from the SRPM, then tarball it back up, and there's your .orig.tar.gz? Build as per

Re: Python executables inside libraries

2004-10-21 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 11:41:09PM +0200, Magnus Therning wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 10:53:32PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 09:25:41AM +0200, Magnus Therning wrote: I have a silly little problem with getting Python's distutils to play nice with Debian packaging

Re: Ubuntu discussion at planet.debian.org

2004-10-23 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 02:40:24PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:54:05 +0200, J?r?me Marant [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, that's what t-p-u is roughly for, but the fact is that it's quite painful. Could you elaborate

Re: Apt-Torrent project

2004-10-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 10:35:53AM +0200, Arnaud Kyheng wrote: I love the Debian project, and I have worked on a new development for it: Apt-Torrent :) Apt-Torrent is an apt proxy to the Bittorrent network. For security, the package listing, and the .torrent files are downloaded from a

Re: Apt-Torrent project

2004-10-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 12:00:16PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] If we can get individually-signed .debs, you won't even need to worry so much about getting the torrent files off a trusted mirror... dpkg-sig exists. Use it :) Thanks

Re: debian.org e-mail address and SPF/SRS

2004-11-03 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 12:15:19AM +0100, Osamu Aoki wrote: I am facing a problem with my ISP started filtering incoming mails with SPF. Since AOL adopted it, it seems becoming quite popular as I see it. [...] SPF has known issue with e-mail forwarder such as pobox.com. I think debian.org

Re: debian.org e-mail address and SPF/SRS

2004-11-04 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 09:59:44AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Osamu Aoki | If you know easy way to avoid this problem exists, please let me know. | (Changing ISP is certainly an option.) Use BSTMP to gluck. (If your ISP can't be whacked into turning it off/Implementing yahoo's

Re: debian.org e-mail address and SPF/SRS

2004-11-04 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 12:11:07PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: * Matthew Palmer | Uhm, having just read through the supplied URL, I can't agree with the | sanity of the proposal. | It appears to require that headers not be modified at all in transit | (which means that forwarding becomes

Re: debian.org e-mail address and SPF/SRS

2004-11-04 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 03:15:09PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 10:37:08PM +1100, Matthew Palmer said On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 12:11:07PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: It gives you traceability and it can be used to prevent joe-jobs. It's not a silver bullet solution

Re: debian.org e-mail address and SPF/SRS

2004-11-05 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 11:48:29AM -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote: On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:38:20 +1100, Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a question you'll have to ask of Yahoo and the SPF people. My guess is that the pushers of these schemes want their thing adopted for whatever

Re: Company launch with Linux system

2004-11-08 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Oct 10, 2004 at 07:27:06PM +0200, Hartmut Rummel wrote: This is cory yearwood from Exsis. Please can you remove the e-mail from your website.. And yet the name in your From: line is Hartmut Rummel, and you're using a totally different e-mail address. Either way, I doubt that post

Re: Use CVS/Subversion/... as a fast way to update apt lists?

2004-11-11 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 12:31:18PM +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: On the topic of all those talks about reducing network traffic caused by apt-get update, without putting too high load into server (as rsync does). Can't CVS (or Subversion or other similar tool) solve this problem? Seems

Re: Select which conffiles shall be raplaced an which not

2004-11-16 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 01:29:38PM +0100, Free Ekanayaka wrote: When running apt-get dist-upgrade I'd like to be able to set a list of packages whose confiles shall be replaced by the newer versions supplied by the package (if any) , while other packages' confiles should be keep

Re: Bug#283751: ITP: fakepop -- fake pop3 server to warn users that only pop3-ssl is available

2004-12-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 12:12:12PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Steve McIntyre] So, let me get this straight - fakepop will allow people to log in (using their username and password) in the clear and THEN tell them that they should have used POP over SSL instead. Quite how is this

Re: Bug#283751: ITP: fakepop -- fake pop3 server to warn users that only pop3-ssl is available

2004-12-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:17:33AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 11:04 +, Steve McIntyre wrote: So, let me get this straight - fakepop will allow people to log in (using their username and password) in the clear and THEN tell them that they should have used POP over

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 08:50:08PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: Yes, hotbabe is sexist (at least in it's current incarnation - if it included a male theme then it would only be sexually offensive to some) Anyone who feels that hot-babe would become less sexually offensive because it included

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 02:38:54AM +0100, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote: I can volunteer to provide some naked photos of myself, but I guess they will be more suitable for section fun than section erotic. There was discussion on IRC in the last few days about a Men of Debian calendar. That'd

Re: Bug#283994: ITP: glastree -- builds live backup trees, with branches for each day

2004-12-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 03:04:15PM -0500, Charles Fry wrote: The poor man's daily snapshot, glastree builds live backup trees, with branches for each day. Users directly browse the past to recover older documents or retrieve lost files. Hard links serve to compress out unchanged files, while

Re: Bug#283994: ITP: glastree -- builds live backup trees, with branches for each day

2004-12-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 05:59:09PM -0500, Charles Fry wrote: In what ways is this package different to, say, dirvish, which I use in a manner which is, AFAICS, identical to the way this package operates? glastree provides a subset of the functionality of dirvish. It is actually most

Re: Bug#283994: ITP: glastree -- builds live backup trees, with branches for each day

2004-12-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 07:58:17PM -0500, Charles Fry wrote: On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 05:59:09PM -0500, Charles Fry wrote: In what ways is this package different to, say, dirvish, which I use in a manner which is, AFAICS, identical to the way this package operates? glastree

Re: Bug#283994: ITP: glastree -- builds live backup trees, with branches for each day

2004-12-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 10:30:05PM -0500, Charles Fry wrote: Is there any benefit to using glastree over dirvish or pdumpfs? The advantage of using glastree over pdumpfs is that it is implemented in Perl rather than Ruby (this is in fact the reason that I encountered it in the

Re: Bug#283994: ITP: glastree -- builds live backup trees, with branches for each day

2004-12-02 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 04:10:01AM +, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meanwhile, what's the total installed space for glastree if you're not a Perl lover? Perl-base is 'Proirity: required' and 'Essential: yes'. It doesn't even have to be depended

Re: Bug#283994: ITP: glastree -- builds live backup trees, with branches for each day

2004-12-03 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 07:02:38PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:00:22 +1100, Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3314kB, including pdumpfs itself. I'll donate a 32MB USB key to store it all on for anyone that is *truly* that starved of space. Low-Memory systems

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