Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-07 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 7 May 2014 01:19, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote: Hi Matthias, your answer exemplifies very well what I mean with “pressed by the machine”… I will reply on one point only. Le Wed, May 07, 2014 at 01:46:32AM +0200, Matthias Klose a écrit : Am 06.05.2014 03:05, schrieb Charles

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-06 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 06.05.2014 03:05, schrieb Charles Plessy: Le Mon, May 05, 2014 at 08:56:48PM +0200, Bas Wijnen a écrit : I'm happy to see that there is consensus anyway that forwarding bugs upstream is the task of the maintainer. Hi all, being a package maintainer, I am always uncomfortable when I

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-06 Thread Charles Plessy
Hi Matthias, your answer exemplifies very well what I mean with “pressed by the machine”… I will reply on one point only. Le Wed, May 07, 2014 at 01:46:32AM +0200, Matthias Klose a écrit : Am 06.05.2014 03:05, schrieb Charles Plessy: When the first mass rebuilds with GCC and porting

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-05 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Sun, May 04, 2014 at 05:36:53PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: I cannot imagine *any* example of a bug reported reported according to guidelines being a waste of time. Can you provide examples of that kind of response? I remember it happening only once, and it was quite a while ago. I

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-05 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Bas Wijnen contributed: Which means that if the maintainer is unable to do that, the response please forward this upstream should be interpreted (and perhaps more clearly written) as sorry I don't have time, this is how you can try to make things happen yourself.

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-05 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, May 05, 2014 at 08:56:48PM +0200, Bas Wijnen a écrit : I'm happy to see that there is consensus anyway that forwarding bugs upstream is the task of the maintainer. Hi all, being a package maintainer, I am always uncomfortable when I have the impression that I am considered like a

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-05 Thread Cameron Norman
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org wrote: Le Mon, May 05, 2014 at 08:56:48PM +0200, Bas Wijnen a écrit : I'm happy to see that there is consensus anyway that forwarding bugs upstream is the task of the maintainer. Hi all, being a package maintainer, I am

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-04 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 2 May 2014 21:29:34 +0200, Bas Wijnen wij...@debian.org wrote: On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 09:21:15PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: Does the Debian guidelines give any hints on who is responsible to report a patch upstream? Is it the bug submitters or the Debian package maintainers

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-04 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 11:48 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 3:21 AM, Svante Signell wrote: Does the Debian guidelines give any hints on who is responsible to report a patch upstream? Is it the bug submitters or the Debian package maintainers responsibility (in addition to

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-04 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Thorsten Glaser: Did you *read* how upstream answered the one thing I *did* forward myself? For the benefit of the other readers here, would you please supply a reference URL? igli exceptions: a truly awful implementation of quite a nice idea. igli just about the worst way you could do

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-04 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Matthias Urlichs dixit: Thorsten Glaser: Did you *read* how upstream answered the one thing I *did* forward myself? For the benefit of the other readers here, would you please supply a reference URL? Sure: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=728053 igli exceptions: a truly

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-04 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Sun, May 04, 2014 at 09:14:50AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: I don't think this is very clear from the guidelines, and I have had mixed responses from maintainers when reporting upstream bugs, varying from thanks, I'll report it upstream for you to stop wasting my time, report it upstream

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-04 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/03/2014 03:21 AM, Svante Signell wrote: Hi, Does the Debian guidelines give any hints on who is responsible to report a patch upstream? Is it the bug submitters or the Debian package maintainers responsibility (in addition to eventually apply them to the packages)? The first one who

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Bas Wijnen (2014-05-04 16:33:08) On Sun, May 04, 2014 at 09:14:50AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: I don't think this is very clear from the guidelines, and I have had mixed responses from maintainers when reporting upstream bugs, varying from thanks, I'll report it upstream for you to stop

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-04 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 4 May 2014 16:33:08 +0200, Bas Wijnen wij...@debian.org wrote: On Sun, May 04, 2014 at 09:14:50AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: I don't think this is very clear from the guidelines, and I have had mixed responses from maintainers when reporting upstream bugs, varying from thanks, I'll

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-03 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Russ Allbery dixit: Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com writes: Does the Debian guidelines give any hints on who is responsible to report a patch upstream? Is it the bug submitters or the Debian package maintainers responsibility (in addition to eventually apply them to the packages)? I

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-03 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2014-05-03 at 12:02 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: Russ Allbery dixit: Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com writes: Does the Debian guidelines give any hints on who is responsible to report a patch upstream? Is it the bug submitters or the Debian package maintainers

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-03 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2014-05-03, Thorsten Glaser t...@mirbsd.de wrote: This does not, of course, prevent people like the Mesa maintainers from refusing to do it. I’ve got no idea how to enforce DevRef on them, though. Thank you for volunteering to help forwarding bug reports for the mesa package. /Sune --

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-03 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Sune Vuorela dixit: On 2014-05-03, Thorsten Glaser t...@mirbsd.de wrote: This does not, of course, prevent people like the Mesa maintainers from refusing to do it. I’ve got no idea how to enforce DevRef on Thank you for volunteering to help forwarding bug reports for the mesa Did you *read*

A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-02 Thread Svante Signell
Hi, Does the Debian guidelines give any hints on who is responsible to report a patch upstream? Is it the bug submitters or the Debian package maintainers responsibility (in addition to eventually apply them to the packages)? Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-02 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 09:21:15PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: Does the Debian guidelines give any hints on who is responsible to report a patch upstream? Is it the bug submitters or the Debian package maintainers responsibility (in addition to eventually apply them to the packages)? I don't

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Svante Signell svante.sign...@gmail.com writes: Does the Debian guidelines give any hints on who is responsible to report a patch upstream? Is it the bug submitters or the Debian package maintainers responsibility (in addition to eventually apply them to the packages)? I don't think we have

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-02 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 02.05.2014 21:21, schrieb Svante Signell: Hi, Does the Debian guidelines give any hints on who is responsible to report a patch upstream? Is it the bug submitters or the Debian package maintainers responsibility (in addition to eventually apply them to the packages)? For any essential

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 3:21 AM, Svante Signell wrote: Does the Debian guidelines give any hints on who is responsible to report a patch upstream? Is it the bug submitters or the Debian package maintainers responsibility (in addition to eventually apply them to the packages)? Is this in

Re: A question about patches for upstream

2014-05-02 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org): That said, the process of forwarding bugs along is sort of annoying in many cases and may not be a very appealing place for volunteers to spend their time, so I think it tends to be one of the first things that stops happening when maintainer teams are