Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-07 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Fri, 06 May 2011, George Danchev wrote: * writing a meaningful ITP helps to grab attention, especially if there are multiple alternatives. Prove your point (ref: I'm upstream and I want to maintain it, doesn't magically buy you a slot into the archive) There's nothing to buy... only

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-07 Thread George Danchev
On Saturday 07 May 2011 09:41:34 Raphael Hertzog wrote: Hi, Hi, On Fri, 06 May 2011, George Danchev wrote: * writing a meaningful ITP helps to grab attention, especially if there are multiple alternatives. Prove your point (ref: I'm upstream and I want to maintain it, doesn't magically

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-07 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Fri, 6 May 2011, Chris Warburton wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:29 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Friday, May 06, 2011 11:23:50 AM Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:11 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote:

Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Chris Warburton
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Chris Warburton chriswa...@gmail.com * Package name: ocportal Version : 6.1.1 Upstream Author : Chris Graham ch...@ocproducts.com * URL : http://www.ocportal.com * License : CPAL Programming Lang: PHP Description

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote: Programming Lang: PHP Description : ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website How many content management systems written in php does Debian need? Scott K -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 06 mai 2011 à 09:11 -0400, Scott Kitterman a écrit : On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote: Programming Lang: PHP Description : ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website How many content management

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Rens Houben
In other news for Fri, May 06, 2011 at 09:11:08AM -0400, Scott Kitterman has been seen typing: On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote: Programming Lang: PHP Description : ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, May 06, 2011 09:21:08 AM Rens Houben wrote: In other news for Fri, May 06, 2011 at 09:11:08AM -0400, Scott Kitterman has been seen typing: On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote: Programming Lang: PHP Description : ocPortal is a Content Management

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 15:16 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le vendredi 06 mai 2011 à 09:11 -0400, Scott Kitterman a écrit : On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote: Programming Lang: PHP Description : ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 05/06/2011 10:49 AM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: What's up with the hate? It's always convenient to have a package in Debian, instead of hunting for it upstream. If it rots in Debian, then it can easily be removed again (or left in Unstable). Wrong. Every additional package costs the whole

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Chris Warburton
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:11 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote: Programming Lang: PHP Description : ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website How many content management systems

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:00 -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: On 05/06/2011 10:49 AM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: What's up with the hate? It's always convenient to have a package in Debian, instead of hunting for it upstream. If it rots in Debian, then it can easily be removed again (or left in

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:11 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote: Programming Lang: PHP Description : ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website How many content management systems

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, May 06, 2011 11:23:50 AM Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:11 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote: Programming Lang: PHP Description : ocPortal is a Content Management System for building

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:29 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Friday, May 06, 2011 11:23:50 AM Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:11 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote: Programming Lang: PHP Description :

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Chris Warburton
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 17:14 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:00 -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: On 05/06/2011 10:49 AM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: What's up with the hate? It's always convenient to have a package in Debian, instead of hunting for it upstream. If it

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Chris Warburton
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:29 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Friday, May 06, 2011 11:23:50 AM Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:11 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote: Programming Lang: PHP Description :

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:24 -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: On 05/06/2011 12:14 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Q: How many content management systems written in php does Debian need? A: How about zero? Not exactly helpful. When developers are passionately opposed to a particular

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 05/06/2011 12:14 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Q: How many content management systems written in php does Debian need? A: How about zero? Not exactly helpful. When developers are passionately opposed to a particular technology (and not without reason here, I think,) they can be a bit

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 06 May 2011 19:39:26 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:24 -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: On 05/06/2011 12:14 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Q: How many content management systems written in php does Debian need? A: How about zero? Not exactly helpful.

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Ben Armstrong
We can stop CCing the bug# now, as this subthread is apparently no longer about the ITP itself, but about proper conduct in discussing an ITP. On 05/06/2011 01:39 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Strange that you read 'support' into my responses. By support, I hope you understand I mean the

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 20:03 +0300, George Danchev wrote: On Friday 06 May 2011 19:39:26 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:24 -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: On 05/06/2011 12:14 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Q: How many content management systems written in php does

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:56 -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: We can stop CCing the bug# now, as this subthread is apparently no longer about the ITP itself, but about proper conduct in discussing an ITP. On 05/06/2011 01:39 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Strange that you read 'support' into my

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 05/06/2011 02:39 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: I was responding to someone who said I 'supported' inclusion of proposed package. Ah, I misunderstood. My apologies. Yeah, good point. So it's not enough for packager to say he will be responsive to problems? Packages, once uploaded, enter

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 14:54 -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: On 05/06/2011 02:39 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: I was responding to someone who said I 'supported' inclusion of proposed package. Ah, I misunderstood. My apologies. Welcome. Yeah, good point. So it's not enough for packager to

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 06 May 2011 20:30:32 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 20:03 +0300, George Danchev wrote: On Friday 06 May 2011 19:39:26 Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 13:24 -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: On 05/06/2011 12:14 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread brian m. carlson
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 08:33:27PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: I'm curious though, why is there an objection against CMS inclusions in general? When there are many packages which provide similar functionality (whether that is a CMS, a window manager, or whatever) then it's reasonable to

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 06 May 2011, Chris Warburton wrote: Hi Scott. ocPortal isn't massively widespread compared to other systems, so there's obviously less experimental proof of security. We had a security hole a few years ago; this was before I got involved, but there's details here