specially parents, about potentially
> objectionable content in Debian packages, Content
> Rating System (CRS) can be deployed to Debian. With CRS, users can
> choose to install packages that is rated for their
> age. In some cases, CRS also filter or block certain contents in
in Debian packages, Content
Rating System (CRS) can be deployed to Debian. With CRS, users can choose
to install packages that is rated for their
age. In some cases, CRS also filter or block certain contents in certain
jurisdictions when legally required.
Exactly for this reason. By filt
cially parents, about potentially
>> objectionable content in Debian packages, Content
>> Rating System (CRS) can be deployed to Debian. With CRS, users can choose to
>> install packages that is rated for their
>> age. In some cases, CRS also filter or block certain contents in cer
ГI'd say that we should never be touching anything like this.
вт, 25 июн. 2019 г., 7:57 Bagas Sanjaya :
> In order to inform to users, especially parents, about potentially
> objectionable content in Debian packages, Content
> Rating System (CRS) can be deployed to Debian. With CRS,
Am Mi., 26. Juni 2019 um 10:40 Uhr schrieb Bagas Sanjaya :
>
> On 25/06/19 20.19, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
> > [...]
>
> So APT need to do what you mention, that is determining age rating not
> only based on AppStream metadata, but also on system locale?
Yes. Since the things that determine age
On 25/06/19 20.19, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
Am Di., 25. Juni 2019 um 11:51 Uhr schrieb Bagas Sanjaya :
Simon McVittie:
Appstream metadata, which is canonically provided by upstreams and is
distro- and package-type-agnostic (available in at least apt and Flatpak),
has this as an optional field
Dear Bagas,
On 26.06.19 04:50, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> Emmanuel Arias:
>> IMO this idea represent a big work. And if you want to involved upstream,
>> maybe will be a problem. Some upstream, could not be interest on participate
>> because could be a "extra" work. But if we implement a content
Bagas Sanjaya writes:
> Regarding freedom, yes it can be affected by CRS because CRS can limit
> freedom to use programs for some users
> (particularly non-adults). But CRS limit such freedom in order to protect
> psychology users for long term from negative
> impacts of programs they used.
Emmanuel Arias:
IMO this idea represent a big work. And if you want to involved
upstream, maybe will be a problem. Some upstream, could not be
interest on participate because could be a "extra" work. But if we
implement a content rating system, the freedom could be affected
because the
On 6/25/19 8:27 AM, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 11:40:04AM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
>> Based on above, what are your opinions/thoughts/positions about Content
>> Rating System in Debian?
> just NO. please create a fork and leave Debian without this.
Am Di., 25. Juni 2019 um 11:51 Uhr schrieb Bagas Sanjaya :
>
> Simon McVittie:
>
> Appstream metadata, which is canonically provided by upstreams and is
> distro- and package-type-agnostic (available in at least apt and Flatpak),
> has this as an optional field for self-rating:
>
>
Hi,
On Tue, 2019-06-25 at 11:40 +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> Based on above, what are your opinions/thoughts/positions about
> Content Rating System in Debian?
is this related to your other proposal involving giving "sudo"
permissions to teenagers to handle this age recommendat
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 11:40:04AM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> Based on above, what are your opinions/thoughts/positions about Content
> Rating System in Debian?
just NO. please create a fork and leave Debian without this.
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On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 12:43:56PM +0200, Paride Legovini wrote:
> My question is: are we trying to solve an actual problem here?
No, and please note that the author is not even a Debian user:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2019/06/msg00376.html
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cially parents, about potentially
> objectionable content in Debian packages, Content
> Rating System (CRS) can be deployed to Debian. With CRS, users can choose to
> install packages that is rated for their
> age. In some cases, CRS also filter or block certain contents in cert
On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 16:33:53 +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> There are no age classifications, however. So based on content_rating tag on
> AppStream metadata, we can add logic to apt in order to determine age rating
> for our packages.
I think this would be unwise. We can never get this right,
Simon McVittie:
Appstream metadata, which is canonically provided by upstreams and is
distro- and package-type-agnostic (available in at least apt and Flatpak),
has this as an optional field for self-rating:
Am Di., 25. Juni 2019 um 10:15 Uhr schrieb Simon McVittie :
>
> On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 09:31:44 +0200, Philip Hands wrote:
> > Also, it seems clear to me that the same game in all Linux disros is
> > very likely to get the same rating, so this would be better done as a
> > distribution agnostic
On 25/06/19 14.31, Philip Hands wrote:
Bagas Sanjaya writes:
Russ Allbery:
It sounds like a whole ton of work to get a useful amount of coverage (not
to mention bothering upstreams with questionnaires that I suspect many of
them would find irritating -- I certainly would with my upstream hat
Philipp Kern writes:
> On 2019-06-25 09:31, Philip Hands wrote:
>>> Russ Allbery:
It sounds like a whole ton of work to get a useful amount of coverage
(not
to mention bothering upstreams with questionnaires that I suspect
many of
them would find irritating -- I
On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 09:31:44 +0200, Philip Hands wrote:
> Also, it seems clear to me that the same game in all Linux disros is
> very likely to get the same rating, so this would be better done as a
> distribution agnostic level
Appstream metadata, which is canonically provided by upstreams
On 2019-06-25 09:31, Philip Hands wrote:
Russ Allbery:
It sounds like a whole ton of work to get a useful amount of coverage
(not
to mention bothering upstreams with questionnaires that I suspect
many of
them would find irritating -- I certainly would with my upstream hat
on),
and I'm not
Philip Hands writes:
> What is it going to cost us to get 'bison' rated PG? Why is this
> useful?
Erm, not 'PG' -- I meant whatever the "Anyone can watch this" label is.
Although, I guess one could perhaps argue PG for bison:
One could use it to build something that generates offensive
Bagas Sanjaya writes:
> Russ Allbery:
>> It sounds like a whole ton of work to get a useful amount of coverage (not
>> to mention bothering upstreams with questionnaires that I suspect many of
>> them would find irritating -- I certainly would with my upstream hat on),
>> and I'm not clear on
Russ Allbery:
It sounds like a whole ton of work to get a useful amount of coverage (not
to mention bothering upstreams with questionnaires that I suspect many of
them would find irritating -- I certainly would with my upstream hat on),
and I'm not clear on the benefit. Do you have some reason
Bagas Sanjaya writes:
> Based on above, what are your opinions/thoughts/positions about Content
> Rating System in Debian?
It sounds like a whole ton of work to get a useful amount of coverage (not
to mention bothering upstreams with questionnaires that I suspect many of
them woul
packages, Content
Rating System (CRS) can be deployed to Debian. With CRS, users can choose to
install packages that is rated for their
age. In some cases, CRS also filter or block certain contents in certain
jurisdictions when legally required.
As in Google Play, Debian CRS is based on official
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