Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-19 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 04:43:44PM +, Simon McVittie wrote: On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 at 17:51:35 +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: For packages that are free, use debian versions whenever possible. For packages that are free but patched too much, use renamed packages. For non-free

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-19 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On ven., 2010-02-19 at 11:21 +0100, Michael Banck wrote: Maybe Nokia could be convinced to open up some/most of the Maemo5 apps once Maemo6/Meego is out; AIUI, not opening up the UI apps was an initial decision that has been at least partly rethought internally since. See

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-19 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
On ven., 2010-02-19 at 11:21 +0100, Michael Banck wrote: Maybe Nokia could be convinced to open up some/most of the Maemo5 apps once Maemo6/Meego is out; AIUI, not opening up the UI apps was an initial decision that has been at least partly rethought internally since. See

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-19 Thread Olivier Berger
Le mercredi 17 février 2010 à 16:35 +0100, Julian Andres Klode a écrit : Also the pkg-fso team: http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianFSO Freesmartphone.org is the other way, it has its own software. My idea is more about the things coming from Nokia and Intel, i.e. oFono, Connman, and the

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-18 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
Am Mittwoch, den 17.02.2010, 17:20 +0100 schrieb Raphael Hertzog: On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? Count me in. Me too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-18 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
Of course work should happen upstream as most as possible. But as upstream will use rpm, our part is repackaging. It should be possible to work in the manner you have proposed without problems. I am a great believer in the power of the community to resolve any potential issues which might

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-18 Thread Andreas Marschke
Hi, Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? Goals: - Provide an environment for handheld and netbook devices + example: the Nokia N900 - Provide a Debian-based implementation of MeeGo + Packaging the software from MeeGo

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-18 Thread Gergely Fazekas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Julian Andres Klode wrote: Hi, Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? Goals: - Provide an environment for handheld and netbook devices + example: the Nokia N900 - Provide a

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-18 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
Hi, Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? Goals: - Provide an environment for handheld and netbook devices + example: the Nokia N900 Interestingly, is it possible to create a mix between current n900 packages and debian, such

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-18 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 at 17:51:35 +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: For packages that are free, use debian versions whenever possible. For packages that are free but patched too much, use renamed packages. For non-free packages, use current Nokia's binaries wrapped into hand-made debs.

Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Hi, Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? Goals: - Provide an environment for handheld and netbook devices + example: the Nokia N900 - Provide a Debian-based implementation of MeeGo + Packaging the software from MeeGo Regards,

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 03:53:32PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? You want to start with em-debian. - Provide an environment for handheld and netbook devices + example: the Nokia N900 Well, I

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:13:13 +0100 Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 03:53:32PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? The difference between what you need for a phone and what

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org wrote: On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:13:13 +0100 Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org wrote: You want to start with em-debian. www.emdebian.org/grip/ Also the pkg-fso team: http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianFSO A bunch of Moblin and

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On 17/02/2010 15:53, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Hi, Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? Carsten Munk (Stskeep, Mer main developer) has said he might use Debian Lenny as a base for Mer^2 on n8x0 (he won't continue developing Mer for N900+

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2010/2/17 Yves-Alexis Perez cor...@debian.org: Carsten Munk (Stskeep, Mer main developer) has said he might use Debian Lenny as a base for Mer^2 on n8x0 (he won't continue developing Mer for N900+ since Meego will achieve the same purpose). You might want to ask him about that. 18:55

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Am Mittwoch, den 17.02.2010, 15:18 + schrieb Neil Williams: On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:13:13 +0100 Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 03:53:32PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? Yes. Not that I can invest lots of time to such a project but I believe we really need to offer something at that level. Goals: - Provide an

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Am Mittwoch, den 17.02.2010, 17:20 +0100 schrieb Raphael Hertzog: Hi, On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? Yes. Not that I can invest lots of time to such a project but I believe we

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Am Mittwoch, den 17.02.2010, 16:13 +0100 schrieb Bastian Blank: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 03:53:32PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? You want to start with em-debian. MeeGo is not really embedded,

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 07:13:41PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 17.02.2010, 16:13 +0100 schrieb Bastian Blank: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 03:53:32PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Hector Oron
Hi, 2010/2/17 Julian Andres Klode j...@debian.org: Am Mittwoch, den 17.02.2010, 16:13 +0100 schrieb Bastian Blank: You want to start with em-debian. MeeGo is not really embedded, having a netbook UI and a handheld UI. The devices also have multiple GB of storage. FYI, Grip is not really

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Am Mittwoch, den 17.02.2010, 19:47 +0100 schrieb Hector Oron: Hi, 2010/2/17 Julian Andres Klode j...@debian.org: Am Mittwoch, den 17.02.2010, 16:13 +0100 schrieb Bastian Blank: You want to start with em-debian. MeeGo is not really embedded, having a netbook UI and a handheld UI. The

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 05:29:15PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? I wonder whether we really need to start or whether we are able to continue what

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Erle Pereira
Am Mittwoch, den 17.02.2010, 17:20 +0100 schrieb Raphael Hertzog: On Wed, 17 Feb 2010, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Is anyone interested in starting a Debian Mobile project, probably as a Debian Pure Blend? Count me in. Goals: - Provide an environment for handheld and netbook

Re: Debian Mobile -- Debian GNU/Linux for mobile devices

2010-02-17 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 17/02/10 05:34 PM, Andreas Tille wrote: I wonder whether we really need to start or whether we are able to continue what just exist: There is a Debian Eee PC project [1] which - as far as I know - is not reduced to this specific hardware despite the very specific name. Actually, our