Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-15 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Andreas Beckmann] Looks like we should start doing some automated upgrade tests with aptitude ... jenkins.debian.net would be one solution, piuparts another (anybody who wants to write a patch?). A few years ago I did chroot upgrade tests like the one done by jenkins.debian.net, using both

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-13 Thread Kevin Chadwick
Aptitude installs all recommended packages by default which was rather annoying until I found that in the options menu as I ran out of space a couple of times. as does apt-get. I'm fairly sure synaptic doesn't select recommended by default, however the synaptic package

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Kevin Chadwick
For instance, one of the (ugly) boxes I help admin recently had 1000 pacakges yet to update and 60 security packages not done, and not enough space on the box to do them. Aptitude installs all recommended packages by default which was rather annoying until I found that in the options menu

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Martin Bagge / brother
On 2013-04-09 11:05, Kevin Chadwick wrote: Aptitude installs all recommended packages by default which was rather annoying until I found that in the options menu as I ran out of space a couple of times. as does apt-get. -- brother http://sis.bthstudent.se -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Wookey
+++ Chow Loong Jin [2013-04-09 09:32 +0800]: On 09/04/2013 06:43, Adam Borowski wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 04:19:19AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: Actually, in the event of aptitude not being able to resolve the dependencies satisfactorily the first round (from aptitude install foo),

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
Le mardi 9 avril 2013 13:29:09, Wookey a écrit : I too am a huge aptitude fan. The curses UI is brilliant for working out what's up when things are a bit broken. However it doesn't deal with multiarch well so I've been stuck with apt-get trying to work out fro the tealeaves what's wrong. Is

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 12:29:09PM +0100, Wookey wrote: [cut] I too am a huge aptitude fan. The curses UI is brilliant for working out what's up when things are a bit broken. However it doesn't deal with multiarch well so I've been stuck with apt-get trying to work out fro the tealeaves

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Wookey wrote: Is anyone actually working on making the aptitude multiarch-friendly, or planning to? It appears so, see the bottom of this mail: http://lists.debian.org/deity/2013/04/msg00027.html -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, Le Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 06:02:27PM +0300, Eugene Lychauka a écrit : http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.html#pkgmgmt Here we can read: The preferred program for interactive package management from a terminal is aptitude. For a non-interactive

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 09:32:52AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: On 09/04/2013 06:43, Adam Borowski wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 04:19:19AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: Actually, in the event of aptitude not being able to resolve the dependencies satisfactorily the first round

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 04/09/2013 11:57 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote: Hi, On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 09:32:52AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: On 09/04/2013 06:43, Adam Borowski wrote: Have you been able to get that effect from aptitude? It seems that whenever it sees some trouble (sometimes even when plain apt-get

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 2013-04-09 17:57, Osamu Aoki wrote: [...] I'm not sure if it makes sense to recommend aptitude in its present state. I wouldn't recommend it when operating with multiarch enabled. Otherwise it's mostly fine. Looks like we should start doing some automated upgrade tests with aptitude ...

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Kevin Chadwick
Aptitude installs all recommended packages by default which was rather annoying until I found that in the options menu as I ran out of space a couple of times. as does apt-get. I'm fairly sure synaptic doesn't select recommended by default, however the synaptic package itself is a

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 06:15:12PM +0200, Andreas Beckmann wrote: On 2013-04-09 17:57, Osamu Aoki wrote: [...] I'm not sure if it makes sense to recommend aptitude in its present state. I wouldn't recommend it when operating with multiarch enabled. Otherwise it's mostly fine. Looks

Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-08 Thread Eugene Lychauka
http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.html#pkgmgmt Here we can read: The preferred program for interactive package management from a terminal is aptitude. For a non-interactive command line interface for package management, it is recommended to use apt-get.

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-08 Thread Chris Knadle
On Monday, April 08, 2013 11:02:27, Eugene Lychauka wrote: http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.htm l#pkgmgmt Here we can read: The preferred program for interactive package management from a terminal is aptitude. For a non-interactive command line

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-08 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 08/04/2013 23:02, Eugene Lychauka wrote: http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.html#pkgmgmt Here we can read: The preferred program for interactive package management from a terminal is aptitude. For a non-interactive command line interface for package

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-08 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 06:02:27PM +0300, Eugene Lychauka a écrit : http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.html#pkgmgmt Here we can read: The preferred program for interactive package management from a terminal is aptitude. For a non-interactive command

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 04:19:19AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: Actually, in the event of aptitude not being able to resolve the dependencies satisfactorily the first round (from aptitude install foo), aptitude allows you to interactively pick other solutions, or tell it what to do: Have you

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl writes: On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 04:19:19AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: Actually, in the event of aptitude not being able to resolve the dependencies satisfactorily the first round (from aptitude install foo), aptitude allows you to interactively pick other

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-08 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 09/04/2013 06:43, Adam Borowski wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 04:19:19AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: Actually, in the event of aptitude not being able to resolve the dependencies satisfactorily the first round (from aptitude install foo), aptitude allows you to interactively pick other

Re: Interactive package management via aptitude

2013-04-08 Thread Chris Knadle
On Monday, April 08, 2013 18:43:06, Adam Borowski wrote: On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 04:19:19AM +0800, Chow Loong Jin wrote: Actually, in the event of aptitude not being able to resolve the dependencies satisfactorily the first round (from aptitude install foo), aptitude allows you to