Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-12-16 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 12/15/2010 07:02 PM, Joey Hess wrote: Samuel Thibault wrote: - Gnome grew from 1830MiB to 2409MiB, still can't fit on just CD1. This should fix itself once both tasksel 2.88 and gnome-core 1:2.30+7 reach testing. Should happen by monday, would appreciate any testing you can do.

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-12-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Mehdi Dogguy, le Thu 16 Dec 2010 10:17:05 +0100, a écrit : On 12/15/2010 07:02 PM, Joey Hess wrote: Samuel Thibault wrote: - Gnome grew from 1830MiB to 2409MiB, still can't fit on just CD1. This should fix itself once both tasksel 2.88 and gnome-core 1:2.30+7 reach testing.

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-12-15 Thread Joey Hess
Samuel Thibault wrote: - Gnome grew from 1830MiB to 2409MiB, still can't fit on just CD1. This should fix itself once both tasksel 2.88 and gnome-core 1:2.30+7 reach testing. Should happen by monday, would appreciate any testing you can do. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description:

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-12-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Joey Hess, le Wed 15 Dec 2010 14:02:38 -0400, a écrit : Samuel Thibault wrote: - Gnome grew from 1830MiB to 2409MiB, still can't fit on just CD1. This should fix itself once both tasksel 2.88 and gnome-core 1:2.30+7 reach testing. Should happen by monday, would appreciate any

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-12-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Here is an updated report on task size: Samuel Thibault, le Wed 27 Oct 2010 18:00:16 +0200, a écrit : - Base+Standard grew from 397MiB to 491MiB (we install libdb4.{5,6,7,8} !?, and since openssh-client recommends xauth, x11 stuff gets installed) Still 492MiB. One nice thing is

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-12-14 Thread Samuel Thibault
And here are the values for amd64: Samuel Thibault, le Wed 15 Dec 2010 02:34:00 +0100, a écrit : Samuel Thibault, le Wed 27 Oct 2010 18:00:16 +0200, a écrit : - Base+Standard grew from 397MiB to 491MiB (we install libdb4.{5,6,7,8} !?, and since openssh-client recommends xauth, x11

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-11-01 Thread Christian PERRIER
severity 528914 serious thanks Quoting Samuel Thibault (sthiba...@debian.org): Hello, Actually, partman will even just refuse to setup partitions. Additionnall, a test today with beta1, on a 1GiB disk (virtual machine) and the separate home partman-auto recipe lead to failure because of disk

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-11-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Christian PERRIER, le Mon 01 Nov 2010 12:03:51 +0100, a écrit : Quoting Samuel Thibault (sthiba...@debian.org): Hello, Actually, partman will even just refuse to setup partitions. Additionnall, a test today with beta1, on a 1GiB disk (virtual machine) and the separate home partman-auto

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-11-01 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Samuel Thibault (sthiba...@debian.org): Christian PERRIER, le Mon 01 Nov 2010 12:03:51 +0100, a écrit : Quoting Samuel Thibault (sthiba...@debian.org): Hello, Actually, partman will even just refuse to setup partitions. Additionnall, a test today with beta1, on a 1GiB

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-11-01 Thread Samuel Thibault
Ben Armstrong, le Sat 30 Oct 2010 06:54:16 -0300, a écrit : On 30/10/10 05:11 AM, Stefan Fritsch wrote: Is there an easy way to see what is in the tasks without reinstalling? From /usr/share/tasksel/debian-tasks.desc it would seem that web- server only pulls apache2-mpm-prefork, and I have

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-10-30 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Wednesday 27 October 2010, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 06:36:35PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: FWIW, it's what worked best when I set up Time Machine over the network. Well I must admit that I consider the file server task totally useless. Who really wants IPX,

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-10-30 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Friday 29 October 2010, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2010-10-29 11:58 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:36:59AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: Or, for a less drastic solution, use localepurge. Losing the docs is a significant loss, you don't want to suffer that unless your

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-10-30 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 30/10/10 05:11 AM, Stefan Fritsch wrote: Is there an easy way to see what is in the tasks without reinstalling? From /usr/share/tasksel/debian-tasks.desc it would seem that web- server only pulls apache2-mpm-prefork, and I have no idea how that could account for this increase $ tasksel

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-10-29 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:20:56 +0200 Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org wrote: Indeed, installling Squeeze (without any task) via the network needs 460MiB free on /, so you don't really have room for swap. Once the .debs cleaned, you're still with 340MiB, while Lenny needed only 268MiB for

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-10-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Neil Williams, le Fri 29 Oct 2010 09:57:23 +0100, a écrit : Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org wrote: Indeed, installling Squeeze (without any task) via the network needs 460MiB free on /, so you don't really have room for swap. Once the .debs cleaned, you're still with 340MiB, while

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-10-29 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 18:29:19 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Sven Joachim, le Wed 27 Oct 2010 18:16:43 +0200, a écrit : On 2010-10-27 17:20 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: /lib (except modules) 9276 14096 4820 (notably 3.6M discover) Why does discover get

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-10-29 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 18:00:16 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: I forgot to mention other tasks as well: - Base+Standard grew from 397MiB to 491MiB (we install libdb4.{5,6,7,8} !?, and since openssh-client recommends xauth, x11 stuff gets installed) fwiw db4.5 is (finally) out of

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-10-29 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 09:57:23AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:20:56 +0200 Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org wrote: Indeed, installling Squeeze (without any task) needs 460MiB If you want to trim that down, you should *definitely* use Emdebian where the packages

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-10-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:36:59AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 09:57:23AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: On Wed, 27 Oct 2010 17:20:56 +0200 Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org wrote: Indeed, installling Squeeze (without any task) needs 460MiB If you want to

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-10-29 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-10-29 11:58 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:36:59AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: Or, for a less drastic solution, use localepurge. Losing the docs is a significant loss, you don't want to suffer that unless your machine is a really small dinky gadget. This is a

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-10-29 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:36:59AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: I really wonder why you still need to install locales to get UTF-8. Even in current glibc, it's a second class citizen. Several years ago, I benchmarked a mockup of hard-coding UTF-8 the way ISO-8859-1 and KOI8-R were done in

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-10-29 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 02:09:32PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 11:36:59AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: I really wonder why you still need to install locales to get UTF-8. Even in current glibc, it's a second class citizen. Several years ago, I benchmarked a mockup

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-10-29 Thread Tony Godshall
Indeed, installling Squeeze (without any task) needs 460MiB If you want to trim that down, you should *definitely* use Emdebian where the packages themselves have this content already trimmed out. Or, for a less drastic solution, use localepurge.  Losing the docs is a significant loss, you

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-10-27 Thread Florian Weimer
* Samuel Thibault: - Base+Standard grew from 397MiB to 491MiB (we install libdb4.{5,6,7,8} !?, I suspect that this is caused primarily by API and ABI incompatibility, and in part by the lack of response to bug reports from upstream. Everybody who uses Berkeley DB extensively has once been

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-10-27 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 10/27/2010 06:11 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote: Is netatalk STILL included in the file server task? Who uses that anymore? The thing takes almost 2 minutes to start at boot (or at least if feels like it) and probably no Mac made in a decade has any need for it. It needs two minutes to

Re: Squeeze can't fit on 512MiB

2010-10-27 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 10/27/2010 06:36 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: FWIW, it's what worked best when I set up Time Machine over the network. That sounds like they're using CNIDs then... Indeed netatalk is the only way to get such things done properly. -- Bernd ZeimetzDebian GNU/Linux