Re: confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)

2008-08-04 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Robert Millan wrote: [ adding debian-project ] On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 01:53:54PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 08:28:19AM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: Earliest Eee models fully supported in Lenny Lenny will release with the atl2 ethernet driver and the non-free

Re: confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)

2008-08-04 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 03:18:24PM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: : Origin: Debian : Label: Debian : Suite: testing : Codename: lenny : Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:39:59 UTC : Architectures: alpha amd64 arm armel hppa i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc : Components: main contrib

Re: confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)

2008-08-04 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 20:36:17 +0200, Robert Millan wrote: This is troubling. Do you have any suggestions on how to address this? Stop trolling about utterly uninteresting details? HTH, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)

2008-08-04 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 08:46:36PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 20:36:17 +0200, Robert Millan wrote: This is troubling. Do you have any suggestions on how to address this? Stop trolling about utterly uninteresting details? I think it's you who are trolling. --

Re: confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)

2008-08-04 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
Robert Millan wrote: On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 03:18:24PM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: : Origin: Debian : Label: Debian : Suite: testing : Codename: lenny : Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:39:59 UTC : Architectures: alpha amd64 arm armel hppa i386 ia64 mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc :

Re: confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)

2008-08-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Therefore Lenny is not Debian, but a superset of it? This is troubling. Do you have any suggestions on how to address this? I recommend not attributing such judgements to the configuration files of software packages. I'm looking for review of

Re: confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)

2008-08-04 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
Russ Allbery wrote: Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Therefore Lenny is not Debian, but a superset of it? This is troubling. Do you have any suggestions on how to address this? I recommend not attributing such judgements to the configuration files of software packages. Sorry???

Re: confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)

2008-08-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Giacomo Catenazzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Russ Allbery wrote: I recommend not attributing such judgements to the configuration files of software packages. Sorry??? It is more that a configuration file, and BTW the same notation it is also used by apt. Archive and its format are an area

Re: confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)

2008-08-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 05, Russ Allbery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree. The Release file in the archive is a configuration file that is part of the software interface to the archive. The terminology that it uses refers to capabilities within the archive maintenance software and within the software

confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)

2008-08-03 Thread Robert Millan
[ adding debian-project ] On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 01:53:54PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 08:28:19AM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote: Earliest Eee models fully supported in Lenny Lenny will release with the atl2 ethernet driver and the non-free madwifi-source

Re: confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)

2008-08-03 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 14:17:46 +0200 Robert Millan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder what is it that we do wrong to spread this confusion so much that it affects even Debian developers themselves. What is this to blame? Would it be the FTP archive layout? Perhaps having an unified BTS? I'd