Re: console translator set without encoding

2005-01-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi, Ok, so I am not the quickest to respond... At Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:39:06 +0200, Patrick Strasser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CC-ing bug-hurd Ognyan Kulev wrote: Patrick Strasser wrote: Unicode did not work until i set it to /hurd/console --encoding=UTF-8 via settrans /dev/vcs

Re: console translator set without encoding

2005-01-21 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At 21 Jan 2005 18:58:41 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Irregardless of what you think about it - the western world doesn't need it (where ISO 8859-1 or 15 is enough). If only this were true. Obviously I was exaggerating. You are

FTBFS: Mozilla on GNU/Hurd with patches

2005-01-22 Thread Barry deFreese
Howdy folks, Here are some notes on what I did to build the mozilla debs. It still needs debugging but it does build. Must have pthreads patched for __inline. There is also and issue with clockid_t in time.h. I got around this by adding _GNU_SOURCE, but this is probably not the ideal

Re: FTBFS: Mozilla on GNU/Hurd with patches

2005-01-22 Thread Robert Millan
On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 12:38:54PM -0800, Barry deFreese wrote: There is also and issue with clockid_t in time.h. I got around this by adding _GNU_SOURCE, but this is probably not the ideal solution. This isn't included in the patch? I am including the files I patched in this e-mail.

PostgreSQL

2005-01-22 Thread Barry deFreese
Heya gang, OK, I built postgreSQL debs as part of the dependencies for qt-x11-free. All it required was this patch: http://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/patches/merged-in-upstream/postgresql.bash And potentially krb5, though what was odd was that the krb5 dependencies were supposed to be superceded

Re: FTBFS: Mozilla on GNU/Hurd with patches

2005-01-23 Thread Thomas Schwinge
On Sun, Jan 23, 2005 at 01:15:57AM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: On Sat, Jan 22, 2005 at 12:38:54PM -0800, Barry deFreese wrote: I am including the files I patched in this e-mail. Please could you merge all this into a single patch? (e.g. with diff -r) What about that one? #v+ $ cat *.diff

Re: console translator set without encoding

2005-01-23 Thread Marco Gerards
Danilo Segan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What are you going to do when you come across a filesystem where you have two files with such names which only differ in normalisation form used (i.e. fully decomposed or fully composed)? Yeah, you can ensure that no filesystem created via GNU/Hurd is

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Re: console translator set without encoding

2005-01-23 Thread Danilo Segan
Today at 15:19, Marco Gerards wrote: Filenames are 8-bit ASCII compatible strings (UTF-FS as in filesystem-safe originally), and that's all you need to know to make POSIX-compliant programs. In recent discussions on [EMAIL PROTECTED], someone mentioned that only / is forbidden in POSIX

Re: Some packages that compiled fine for hurd-i386

2005-01-23 Thread Michael Banck
Hello, On Sun, Jan 23, 2005 at 01:32:05AM +0100, Physicman wrote: Well, I intend to do so, so here is my first patch for the ssmtp package. Dunno if the formatting is right and there are maybe other problems, but it works for me. First, off, thanks a lot for your patch and the decision to

Re: Some packages that compiled fine for hurd-i386

2005-01-24 Thread Marco Gerards
Alfred M. Szmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've actually tried to send the patch not gzipped but it didn't get through, so I thought I was hitting a size limit and gzipped it. gzipping a file over email is silly since it gets encoded using base64. Take the following example:

Re: Booting The Debian GNU/Hurd get locked

2005-01-25 Thread Yuval Tanny
Thanks! After disabling some devices and changing my module in grub to a one long line, I've succeeded to boot grub successfully! I native-installed it twice and I'm going to configure the network and install some packages in the next few days. Thanks, Yuval Patrick Strasser wrote: Yuval Tanny

GNU/Hurd K8 Hangs at boot

2005-01-26 Thread sathish kumar
i installed GNU/Hurd K8. /target - 400MB swap- 256MB and booted the system with a GRUB image Floppy. at the first boot, i gave the command, kernel (hd0,0)/boot/gnumach.gz root=device:hd0s1 -s and then module (hd0,0)/hurd/ext2fs.static --multiboot-command-line=${kernel-command-line}

Re: GNU/Hurd K8 Hangs at boot

2005-01-26 Thread Philip Charles
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, sathish kumar wrote: i installed GNU/Hurd K8. /target - 400MB swap- 256MB and booted the system with a GRUB image Floppy. Did you use the GRUB floppy on the first CD? Phil. -- Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand +64 3 488

RE: GNU/Hurd K8 Hangs ....

2005-01-26 Thread Philip Charles
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, sathish kumar wrote: also, i'm using GNU/Hurd K8 mini ISO.internet is slow for me. so i couldnt download the big images. i'm using GRUB image downloaded from some website. is there any copy of GRUB in the GNU/Hurd K8 mini ISO ?? is there any place to download a good copy

SSH server nt work

2005-01-28 Thread Renat Sabitov
If I connect with ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED], then in /var/log/auth.log: Jan 28 08:15:46 hurd sshd[264]: Accepted publickey for srr from 172.16.88.1 port 59248 ssh2 Jan 28 08:15:46 hurd sshd[266]: fatal: buffer_uncompress: inflate returned -3 if ssh -oCompression=no [EMAIL PROTECTED], then Jan 28

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Re: PING / telnet problem

2005-01-31 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
Could you try to recompile ping with debugging symbols and see what is going on with gdb? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hurd glibc development version patch.

1998-07-15 Thread Mark Kettenis
Hi, For those who are are interested, I've made my changes to get the current glibc development version running on the Hurd available at: http://www.wins.uva.nl/~kettenis/hurd/glibc-hurd-980714.diff Note that I am working to get these patches checked in, so the patches might not apply cleanly

Re: Request for better GnuMach/Hurd Information

1998-07-15 Thread Gordon Matzigkeit
Hi! James Taylor writes: JT I don't think packaging the gnu-0.2 release is at all worth JT packaging. However I don't think that is our aim. I thought it JT was clear that we will work with more recent snapshots which Gord JT will make available (am I missinterpreting your prior statements

FW: Hurd and GnuMach Sources

1998-07-15 Thread Fulgham, Brent/SCO
FYI -- Looks like the GnuMach/Hurd snapshots will be back soon. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 1998 12:55 PM To: help-hurd@gnu.org Subject: Re: Hurd and GnuMach Sources From: Fulgham, Brent/SCO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: list has been moved.

1998-07-15 Thread Martin Schulze
Raul Miller wrote: I've updated the old list to forward messages to the new list. Unfortunately, I can't figure out the url for the archive for the new list, so I can't redirect requests there. That should be http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-hurd.yymm/ or something. Check out the

Re: list has been moved.

1998-07-16 Thread Raul Miller
Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That should be http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-hurd.yymm/ or something. Check out the main Lists web page. I did. It's not there. Guessing at the name just got me a bunch of 404 error messages. Personally, I'd also like a top-level url for

Re: Dpkg for Hurd

1998-07-16 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Jul 16, 1998 at 09:48:06AM -0600, Fulgham, Brent/SCO wrote: Bless you Marcus! I was actually working on this last night, but didn't get as far as you did. I have added my experiences below yours (below): Oh, well. I was overstating a bit :) There were unexpected features creaping

Re: Dpkg for Hurd

1998-07-16 Thread Raul Miller
Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Biggest problem: dpkg --print-architecture. I tried to hack it but gave up. Someone else has to change lib/arch.c to support GNU archhitecture. I ran into a problem where the configure macro AM_GNU_GETTEXT is not defined. I grepped

Re: Dpkg for Hurd

1998-07-17 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Jul 17, 1998 at 01:45:50AM -0600, Gordon Matzigkeit wrote: Hi! Marcus Brinkmann writes: This is a dpkg build environment bug. Requiring installers to have autoconf, automake, libtool and gettext is just wrong. I speak as the designer and implementer of GNU Libtool. If nobody

Re: sizes of Hurd on Mach vs. Linux

1998-07-22 Thread Stephen L. Favor
Gordon Matzigkeit wrote: [Steven: The question comes out of discussing the potential for Linux gradually to become a microkernel that the Hurd would run on top of. If you add it to the FAQ, please give the context so that it doesn't come across as a troll.] Is anyone currently working on

hurd developpement tree

1998-07-24 Thread Michel LESPINASSE
On 14 Jul 1998, Gordon Matzigkeit wrote: ML Well, I used to look there quite often, and then I got to think ML that hurd developpement was dead. I was just wrong : the ML repository has just (silently :-/ ) moved somewhere else. Don't worry about this... I'll be sure to get the other

RE: Hurd Build Issues

1998-07-24 Thread Fulgham, Brent/SCO
I have already (a week or so ago) filed a bug report against ftp.debian.org to request the addition of a hurd directory. Once that's available we can start uploading stuff to master just like regular debian packages. :) -Brent -Original Message- From: Marcus Brinkmann [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Hurd Build Issues

1998-07-25 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Jul 24, 1998 at 11:43:06PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mmhh. What about *.tar files, without supporting Debian files? No point uploading those. Before I get angry, could you explain what you mean? You think there is no point that I upload my

Re: Hurd Build Issues

1998-07-25 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Jul 25, 1998 at 07:46:20AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [about tar files] Hmm... those could probably go in project. (maybe project/expirimental?) I don't know how to upload for there, though -- I guess write the ftp site folks and ask. And

FAQ Evolution

1998-07-27 Thread Stephen L. Favor
After a little discussion with Gordon, the FAQ for Debian GNU/Hurd has been split into two documents: the Debian GNU/Hurd FAQ and the GNU Hurd FAQ. Both of these may currently be found under http://www.corridor.com/~sfavor/hurd-faq. The Debian GNU/Hurd FAQ should be considered a supplement to

How to create Debian GNU/Hurd packages (part II)

1998-08-01 Thread Santiago Vila
And this is part II (slightly edited). Now for the fun part: As it already happens with C programs :-), if we follow the procedure for creating a Debian package, we will obtain a .deb package suitable for the system in which we are creating it. For example, if we do that in a GNU/Linux-intel

How to create Debian GNU/Hurd packages (part III)

1998-08-01 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi. I have still to talk about shared lib dependencies. When cross-compiling, there is a little problem with this. Normally a Debian package has, in the control file, a Depends: line like this one: Depends: libc6 which tells dpkg that if you install this

A couple of debian/hurd questions

1998-08-20 Thread David Maslen
I'm cross posting this to help-hurd and debian-hurd. Probably bad form, but there is so little trafic on either list, I'm trying to convince myself that others are still interested in HURD. I just started a new hurd installation on a zip disk. It's only 96meg, but I figure it'll do for the root

Small correction (was: Re: hurd init, translator upgrade

1998-08-20 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hello, On Wed, Aug 19, 1998 at 07:46:59PM -0400, Roland McGrath wrote: 2) All static libraries --strip-unneeded. I've only used --strip-debug myself, but I presume --strip-unneeded is fine too if it is appropriate on Linux. Where did I have my mind when writing this? You're comepletely

Re: A couple of debian/hurd questions

1998-08-20 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hello David! On Thu, Aug 20, 1998 at 11:21:47PM +1000, David Maslen wrote: I'm cross posting this to help-hurd and debian-hurd. Probably bad form, but there is so little trafic on either list, I'm trying to convince myself that others are still interested in HURD. We are, rest assured :)

Re: Some HURD questions.

1998-08-25 Thread Roland McGrath
How far along is the HURD development for 0.3? This is the place it is happening. The main criterion for a new release at this point is having debian packages for the system and an arrangement to make it easy to install. What services/drivers are implemented for graphics? None in 0.2; there

Re: Some HURD questions.

1998-08-26 Thread OKUJI Yoshinori
From: Roland McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Some HURD questions. Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:13:52 -0400 think). It is our goal to update these drivers and use more drivers from Linux and/or BSDs, hopefully eventually with wholly source-compatible glue so we can just track changes from

Re: Update on the Base Set?

1998-08-28 Thread Gordon Matzigkeit
Hi! David Maslen writes: DM 2 weeks ago there was a thread going about how close the base set DM was to completion. Then we had that DNS problem and it's been DM very quiet since. DM So how's the Debian/HURD progressing? We're working on infrastructure to get ready for the hordes of

Re: Looking for Hurd FTP mirror sites

1998-08-29 Thread OKUJI Yoshinori
From: Gordon Matzigkeit [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Looking for Hurd FTP mirror sites Date: 26 Aug 1998 13:37:39 -0600 What I need to know is who is already mirroring that directory, so that I can put you on a list of mirror sites in the GNU Hurd web pages at

RMS Talk in NZ

1998-08-30 Thread cbbrowne
Some years ago, when IBM was investing gazillions of dollars into Workplace OS, it appeared that Mach might well rule the world. If Workplace OS succeeded, then there would be: a) A community of students learning to build MK stuff atop Mach, b) Widespread understanding of Mach-like systems, c)

Re: Can't mount root filesystem

1998-08-31 Thread Harmanjit Singh
OKUJI Yoshinori [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In GRUB, partitions are counted from zero, while counted from one on Mach. I think this should be written into GNU/Hurd FAQ. All these, and more, are already documented in the unofficial Hurd FAQ. There is a link to that on the official hurd pages

Re: RMS Talk in NZ

1998-09-02 Thread John Tobey
Martin Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Maslen wrote: The is a story on ./ at the moment with a writeup of a talk RMS gave in NZ. http://cantua.canterbury.ac.nz/~mpt26/stuff/rms/ One thing that seems relevant to this list is that RMS reportedly said using the MACH micro

Re: GNU quality

1998-09-02 Thread Jules Bean
On 2 Sep 1998, David Maslen wrote: John Tobey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Two, writing GNU-quality code takes considerable skill. Linux may not be GNU-quality, but the experience gained from Linux will help developers move up to the HURD. As M$ well knows, it's better to be second at

Re: GNU quality

1998-09-02 Thread Anthony C. Zboralski
On Wed, 2 Sep 1998, Jules Bean wrote: Secondly, the microkernel. My understanding is that it's a good thing because the micro kernel becomes a generic layer to talk to the hardware and everything else sits on top. This is more flexible if you want something else to sit on top. I've

Re: GNU quality

1998-09-02 Thread John Tobey
David Maslen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would you care to elaborate. GNU quality code. Is this why the GNU tools seem to be ported to every platform? Because the quality has gone into planning them in such a way as this is possible without nasty platform dependant hacks? Yes, essentially. GNU

fileutils-3.16: rpl_fnmatch undefined when cross-compiling for Hurd

1998-09-06 Thread Gordon Matzigkeit
Hi! The attached patch fixes a problem where configure would assume that fnmatch doesn't work when cross-compiling, but lib/fnmatch.c only defines fnmatch on non-glibc systems. I chose to fix this by changing the part of configure.in that redefines fnmatch as rpl_fnmatch. There are probably

Re: exec cannot execute gzip file

1998-09-12 Thread Roland McGrath
At first, I'm sorry that I was short-tempered. But, any comment like your reply is very useful and encourages me. I want a quick reply, even if it is I don't know, or something. Please understand that we are all volunteers and often cannot spare the time even to read your message at all and

Some naive questions

1998-09-14 Thread James Gibson
Well, I got the Hurd installed (using the GHHK), built a cross-compiler, rolled my own GNUMach and Hurd kernels, and compiled a few packages. Now, with your indulgence, I'd like to ask a few naive questions: 1) At startup, GNUMach tries to run an irq probe on all my drives (and fails). Is this

Re: Some naive questions

1998-09-14 Thread Roland McGrath
Well, I got the Hurd installed (using the GHHK), built a cross-compiler, rolled my own GNUMach and Hurd kernels, and compiled a few packages. That's great! You are not so naive if you've gotten this far by yourself. 1) At startup, GNUMach tries to run an irq probe on all my drives (and

Where can I get a version of Debian GNU/Hurd to play with?

1998-10-05 Thread Milan Zimmermann
Thanks, Milan

How can i help

1998-10-07 Thread Nelanka Perera
I'm an undergraduate cs student, and would like to know if there is any way i can help. I know C, C++ and java, but have not worked on large projects with either of these languages. -- M.P. Nelanka Perera [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cs.bsu.edu/~nelanka

Re: How can i help

1998-10-07 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, Nelanka Perera wrote: I'm an undergraduate cs student, and would like to know if there is any way i can help. I know C, C++ and java, but have not worked on large projects with either of these languages. Yes, we would like to know how many Debian source packages may be

Re: I want to try HURD

1998-10-08 Thread Gordon Matzigkeit
Hi! Rafael Caetano dos Santos writes: RCdS Hi, I'm a Debian user and I want to try HURD, but I don't want RCdS to download the whole GNU-0.2 package -- it's too big. I RCdS downloaded Mach HURD sources some months ago, but I have to RCdS reconfigure gcc in order to cross-compile it, and I

Re: I want to try HURD

1998-10-09 Thread Gordon Matzigkeit
Hi! Marcus Brinkmann writes: I'm trying to put together a glibc-2.1 package for Debian GNU/Hurd, and when that's finished we should gain a lot more momentum. MB Gordon, I didn't knew that! We should coordinate our efforts, MB I've access to libc CVS and wanted to start on the Debian

libc (was Re: I want to try HURD)

1998-10-09 Thread John Tobey
Roland McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I get to the libc hacking, I'll discuss it on libc-hacker and with Mark. Is that the list where one can be notified of new libc alpha releases? That would be swell... There will probably be some shared library version problems between the

gnumach crashes

1998-10-09 Thread Michael Boegl
Hy when i want to boot the hurd, gnumach crashes after probing for a NCR??? device. can anyone tell for which device gnumach is probing for? and are there any command line options to disable probing. i have installed the binary package from debian on a 500 MB ext2fs partition. thank you michael

Re: How can i help

1998-10-10 Thread Alistair Riddoch
OKUJI Yoshinori writes: Hi, Alistair. From: Alistair Riddoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How can i help Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:31:25 +0100 (BST) The main barrier to my getting involved with development is that I cannot get gnamach to work with my hardware. I have tried the

Re: This list, and the Debian/Hurd project.

1998-10-14 Thread Marcus . Brinkmann
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 10:43:45AM -0600, James Bielman wrote: Hmm. I've been subscribed to this list for almost a week now and haven't yet seen any traffic. Are you all dead or just busy coding? :) We are not dead, and some of us are busy coding, some just take a rest. I cn only speak

Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

1998-10-14 Thread Hartmut Koptein
Could I get some official word on which architectures wish to be included in the 2.1 release of Debian? Thanks! PowerPC has more or less given up on making 2.1. We're moving well, but I'm of the inclination we shouldn't release until we have a truly stabilized libc - or at least until

Unidentified subject!

1998-10-15 Thread Rafael Caetano dos Santos
Hi, I followed Brinkmann's advice and downloaded the deb packages from /debian/dists/debian/dists/sid/binary-i386-hurd/base at the ftp site. In order to run dpkg, I had to create the tree var/lib/dpkg under the Hurd root partition, and some empty files under it, namely: available status

Re: Linux binaries on HURD

1998-10-21 Thread Marcus . Brinkmann
Hello, On Wed, Oct 21, 1998 at 06:34:06PM +0400, Grigorio V. Moshkin wrote: Linux binaries and driver modules MUST BE runnig atop Debian GNU/HURD system on the same hardware architecture. Although Linux binary compatibility would be nice, it is not a primary goal right now. Source

Linux/HURD security and virtual machines

1998-10-21 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
I suppose the thing I like least about UNIX is the way every program I run automatically receives permission to do everything I can do, e.g. delete all my files, send mail on my behalf, etc, etc. Also, there is nothing like a virtual machine: portability of programs can not be enforced because

Re: Linux binaries on HURD

1998-10-22 Thread Grigorio V. Moshkin
Hello! On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Jules Bean wrote: Programs, certainly. Source compatibility is *definitely* a goal. For programs. Not for drivers - the linux driver model is utterly different (and utterly inferior) to the HURD one. Perhaps the key difference is that,

Re: Linux binaries on HURD

1998-10-22 Thread Jules Bean
On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, Grigorio V. Moshkin wrote: Hello! On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Jules Bean wrote: Programs, certainly. Source compatibility is *definitely* a goal. For programs. Not for drivers - the linux driver model is utterly different (and utterly inferior) to

Re: Linux binaries on HURD

1998-10-22 Thread Gordon Matzigkeit
Hi! Jules Bean writes: JB In any case, that question would be better answered by the JB general HURD chaps (a couple of them sometimes listen on this JB list - otherwise, there's a bug-hurd list somewhere...). The best answer that I can give is that compatibility is an admirable goal, but

Re: Linux/HURD security and virtual machines

1998-10-22 Thread Michele Bini
On Wed, Oct 21, 1998 at 05:33:48PM +0100, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: I suppose the thing I like least about UNIX is the way every program I run automatically receives permission to do everything I can do, e.g. delete all my files, send mail on my behalf, etc, etc. Also, there is nothing like

Re: Linux/HURD security and virtual machines

1998-10-22 Thread Gordon Matzigkeit
Hi! Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS writes: EGE I suppose the thing I like least about UNIX is the way every EGE program I run automatically receives permission to do everything EGE I can do, [...] EGE Will the HURD provide a solution for these problems? Not immediately. POSIX specifies things

problem installing deb packages

1998-10-22 Thread Rafael Caetano dos Santos
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Rafael Caetano dos Santos wrote: I'm sending this message again because nobody ansered it, and maybe it was because I had provided no subject. I apologize for the insistence. Hi, I followed Brinkmann's advice and downloaded the deb packages from

Re: problem installing deb packages

1998-10-22 Thread Gordon Matzigkeit
Hi! Rafael Caetano dos Santos writes: RCdS I'm sending this message again because nobody ansered it, and RCdS maybe it was because I had provided no subject. I apologize for RCdS the insistence. [Sorry for the delay...] In order to run dpkg, I had to create the tree var/lib/dpkg under

What will the HURD boot loader be?

1998-10-23 Thread Fredrick Paul Eisele
Will the HURD boot loader be LILO or GRUB or something else? I am looking for a package to maintain that is particularly needed by the HURD. The only such list I am aware of does not indicate relevance to the different platforms.

Re: What will the HURD boot loader be?

1998-10-23 Thread Mark Kettenis
From: Fredrick Paul Eisele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 08:18:27 -0400 Will the HURD boot loader be LILO or GRUB or something else? I am looking for a package to maintain that is particularly needed by the HURD. The only such list I am aware of does not indicate

Re: What will the HURD boot loader be?

1998-10-23 Thread Gordon Matzigkeit
Hi! My last e-mail had a mistake. Reading grub-0.5/docs/filesystem.txt is a lot more important than PC_partitioning.txt. -- Gordon Matzigkeit [EMAIL PROTECTED] //\ I'm a FIG (http://www.fig.org/) Lovers of freedom, unite! \// I use GNU (http://www.gnu.org/)

libc.so.0.2 - libc.so.2 (?)

1998-10-26 Thread Santiago Vila
Hi. This is a question for the Hurd developers: I noticed that the libc in GNU 0.2, libc.so.0.2, has 0.2 as version number. Does this mean that the libc in GNU 0.3 will have 0.3 as version number? Will this break every executable? Will a simple symlink libc.so.0.2 - libc.so.0.3 be enough for

Re: Need help (building ncurses-4.2)

1998-11-02 Thread Santiago Vila
On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Roland McGrath wrote: On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Roland McGrath wrote: Where does your libc come from? GNU 0.2 (i.e. 2.0.4). Hmm. And you are not using symbol versioning or anything funny? I don't know. I just try to compile with as little changes as I can from

Re: Need help (building ncurses-4.2)

1998-11-03 Thread Jules Bean
--On Tue, Nov 3, 1998 12:38 pm -0500 Roland McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be simple to add the feature to the Hurd, but we will not do so unless we are convinced of its utility. So: Is setfsuig a Linuxism? Is there a replacement? Yes, it is a Linux invention. I can't tell

Re: Random Device

1998-11-04 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
I've thought a little about this. I think the best sources of random bits come from disk latencies and keystroke patterns and network behavior, so that suggests that it should be implemented as a Mach device. I certainly think it would be a useful thing to port.

Re: Need help (building ncurses-4.2)

1998-11-04 Thread Santiago Vila
Hi. I received this from Mark: The development version of ncurses (see the patches on ftp://ftp.clark.net/pub/dickey/ncurses/4.2) solve this by using access() to check if the files are readable by the real user. This is of course the way to do it, do I'd suggest to take a look at these

Re: Random Device

1998-11-04 Thread Werner Koch
Thomas Bushnell, BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've thought a little about this. I think the best sources of random bits come from disk latencies and keystroke patterns and network Especially keystrokes. Ted Tso's driver is GPLed and not very system dependend.

building a native compiler

1998-11-05 Thread Ed Boraas
Hi there. I was wondering if anyone has had experience (and hopefully success) in building a native compiler for hurd. I'm not sure of the exact process required (i'm not very familiar with cross-compiling, so i may have screwed up somewhere in that area), so I have some potentially stupid

Re: building a native compiler

1998-11-05 Thread Ed Boraas
Just a brief followup on my last note: On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, I wrote: [snip] In any case, I can't seem to get binutils-2.9.1 to compile using my cross compiler. It bails while building gprof, at this point: [snip] Has anyone been through this before? I did manage to get binutils compiled

Re: building a native compiler

1998-11-05 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Ed Boraas wrote: In any case, has anyone got make to build? Is there perhaps a binary for hurd out there somewhere? make should be available in any of the Debian ftp archives: (ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian or mirrors) as

Re: cross-dpkg problems

1998-11-06 Thread Roland McGrath
The installation process is a bit difficult. There are four scripts, {pre,post}{rm,inst} which are run before and after removal or installation of packages. The scripts are run with an argument, which defines if it is an upgrade, a new install, a removal or purge (removes configuration too)

Re: cross-dpkg problems

1998-11-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Nov 06, 1998 at 05:27:26PM -0500, Roland McGrath wrote: The installation process is a bit difficult. There are four scripts, {pre,post}{rm,inst} which are run before and after removal or installation of packages. The scripts are run with an argument, which defines if it is an

Re: cross-dpkg problems

1998-11-06 Thread Roland McGrath
There are different cases where a preinst is needed (not every package has it) [then list may be far from complete]: 1) You have a link on the system you want to remove before the package is unpacked. 2) You have f*cked up completely in a prior package and needs to fix it before the

Re: cross-dpkg problems

1998-11-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Nov 06, 1998 at 06:09:31PM -0500, Roland McGrath wrote: 3) If you want to move things around (configuration files), sometimes a preinst is necessary. What do you mean exactly? Can you give an example? Autoconf: #! /bin/sh -e test -e /etc/autoconf/acconfig.h exit 0 test -f

Re: cross-dpkg problems

1998-11-07 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Fri, Nov 06, 1998 at 06:09:31PM -0500, Roland McGrath wrote: I am not sure what you mean. I'mnot sure if there is an option for dpkg to not run them. You could write a small script which removes the scripts from the package before installation. No, I want something clean (i.e. an

Helping out with debian/hurd

1998-11-07 Thread Tim Moran
Hello, I'm not a programmer, nor am I wealthy, but this Debian/Hurd thing has got my attention and I'd like to help out a bit. Tell me where to send the money and I'll get a check in the mail. (Yes, I'm also a bit lazy this morning. I'm sure the answer is somewhere in the web pages. Your address

Re: cross-dpkg problems

1998-11-07 Thread Gordon Matzigkeit
Hi! Roland McGrath writes: RM We need someone (you? Gord?) to come up with a hurd base RM package that has just enough to get a system that can run dpkg. RM This needs grub, gnumach, libc shared objects, and the base hurd RM servers and shared libs. This is what I've been working on.

Re: Helping out with debian/hurd

1998-11-07 Thread John Tobey
Tim Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thing I hate most about college is that it has pretty much forced me to create a Windows partition. I got really sick of hanging out in the computers labs and/or converting all my documents to Word/Excel format. I went from using a Mac straight into a

Re: Helping out with debian/hurd

1998-11-07 Thread ryan yeske
When Sat, Nov 07, 1998 at 01:39:18PM -0500 was now, John Tobey wrote: Tim Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Microsoft until I had to use it myself. Brother, I am with you. :) Unfortunately, I think college generally means *protection* from Windoze that's absent in the real world. I came

Re: Helping out with debian/hurd

1998-11-08 Thread cbbrowne
Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Nov 07, 1998 at 09:21:53AM -0800, Tim Moran wrote: I'm not a programmer, nor am I wealthy, but this Debian/Hurd thing has got my attention and I'd like to help out a bit. Tell me where to send the money and I'll get a check in the

Re: cross-dpkg problems

1998-11-08 Thread Jules Bean
--On Sat, Nov 7, 1998 5:53 pm +0100 Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3) They have some non-Hurd-based system, and a free partition (or disk space for a subdir install). I'm very interested in supporting this case, because the vast majority of people interested in the Hurd are in

Re: cross-dpkg problems

1998-11-09 Thread Gordon Matzigkeit
Hi! Jules Bean writes: JB --On Sat, Nov 7, 1998 5:53 pm +0100 Marcus Brinkmann JB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3) They have some non-Hurd-based system, and a free partition (or disk space for a subdir install). I'm very interested in supporting this case, because the vast majority of

Re: cross-dpkg problems

1998-11-09 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, 7 Nov 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: Good News: [...] ++ | unpacked | | The package is unpacked, but not configured. |

Re: Helping out with debian/hurd

1998-11-09 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Nov 08, 1998 at 01:23:50AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Both organizations, SPI and GNU, serve free software in an excellent way. Both are sponsoring third party projects from time to time. A complication that comes up as soon as

Hurd won't boot :(

1998-11-12 Thread M.C. Vernon
Dear hurd people, I have been following the instructions on the FAQ for installing hurd on a debian box: repartitioned hdb: hdb1 1.5G hurd hdb2 128k hurd (for use as swap) hdb3 the rest linux/ext2 mke2fs -o hurd /dev/hdb1 mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt cd /mnt tar -xvzpf /tmp/gnu-0.2.tar.gz mv

Hurd - same usernames and passwords as linux

1998-11-12 Thread M.C. Vernon
Hi all, I have an (almost :( - see last mail) hurd install on my slink/potato box, and I would like all my users to be able to use the machine in hurd mode. I can cope with mounting the fs: cd / rm home ln -s /linux/home /home but how do I keep the usernames and password info from

more hurd problems

1998-11-13 Thread M.C. Vernon
Dear all, After changing the type of my hurd partition to linux native (which should be in the documentation somewhere, as this is non-obvious), I managed to get as far as typing boot but then things go wrong: NCR53c406a: no available ports found EATA0: address 0x1f0 in use, skipping

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