On Thursday, 22 December 2022 09:16:50 CET Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> I made an interesting experience regarding the current Qt transition: I
> updated a ThinkPad X1 Gen 1 Tablet with "apt upgrade" yesterday.
Did you manage to have your tablet fully functional in keyboard free mode?
I've
thanks to all!!! an "apt update -t sid" on my pc upgraded it to below:
Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 5.26.4
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.101.0
Qt Version: 5.15.7
Kernel Version: 6.1.0-0-amd64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 4 × Intel® Core™ i5-4200U CPU @
On Thursday, 22 December 2022 14:31:38 CET Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 21 December 2022 11:42:17 CET Diederik de Haas wrote:
> > > I think they above quoted script is absolutely horrific.
> >
> > I made that statement for 2 reasons:
> > 1) It tries do a dist-upgrade 'at all cost'
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 3:52 PM Sedat Dilek wrote:
> I will wait for the APT updates normally published at 2:00 p.m. UTC
> and decide - should arrive at 16:00 German local-time.
>
KInfoCenter says:
Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux unstable
KDE Plasma Version: 5.26.4
KDE Frameworks Version:
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 11:49 AM Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>
> Sedat Dilek - 22.12.22, 11:10:47 CET:
> […]
> > Can you boot into KDE version 5.26.4 with QT version 5.15.7 packages
> > upgraded as of today?
> >
> > Do the KDE applications work as (you) expected?
>
> With "All fine there as well" I
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 03:32:38PM +0100, Sedat Dilek wrote:
> BTW, I learned a lot by breaking my Debian-system :-).
Absolutely. That's when one learns best. Just don't do it when you need
the box, know how to fix it, and have backups.
Greetings
Marc
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On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 12:01 PM Marc Haber wrote:
[ ... ]
> It's called unstable for a reason, it's supposed to be broken once in a
> while.
Exactly Marc.
The transition period is sometimes hard to suffer and in the end you
have to... accept + wait.
BTW, I learned a lot by breaking my
Diederik de Haas - 22.12.22, 13:26:47 CET:
> On Thursday, 22 December 2022 09:16:50 CET Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > I find it way easier to have apt reduce the problem riskless
> > > first.
> > > It's a shorter list of actions to review.
> >
> > Good argument. My argument is that in the usual
On Thursday, 22 December 2022 09:16:50 CET Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > I find it way easier to have apt reduce the problem riskless first.
> > It's a shorter list of actions to review.
>
> Good argument. My argument is that in the usual situation trying "apt
> full-upgrade" first will save me
Martin Steigerwald - 22.12.22, 11:48:59 CET:
> I did not do much on the tablet. But I am working with my main laptop
> just as usual and did not see any issues so far.
And for what I did on the tablet: no issues. Systray, KRunner fully
available again.
--
Martin
Sedat Dilek - 22.12.22, 11:10:47 CET:
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 10:53 AM Martin Steigerwald
wrote:
> > Martin Steigerwald - 22.12.22, 09:16:50 CET:
[…]
> > > So I will just wait until a "full-upgrade" can run through fully
> > > on this tablet and probably stay away from a "upgrade" on my
> > >
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 11:10 PM Aurélien COUDERC wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Le mercredi 21 décembre 2022, 21:37:45 CET Marc Haber a écrit :
> > On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 12:50:45PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > Marc Haber - 21.12.22, 12:00:39 CET:
> > > > > Stop using *dist-*upgrade by
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 10:53 AM Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>
> Martin Steigerwald - 22.12.22, 09:16:50 CET:
> > I made an interesting experience regarding the current Qt transition:
> > I updated a ThinkPad X1 Gen 1 Tablet with "apt upgrade" yesterday.
> >
> > Parts of the Plasma desktop are
Martin Steigerwald - 22.12.22, 09:16:50 CET:
> I made an interesting experience regarding the current Qt transition:
> I updated a ThinkPad X1 Gen 1 Tablet with "apt upgrade" yesterday.
>
> Parts of the Plasma desktop are still broken. Some part of systray
> misses some QML files, KRunner shows
Aurélien COUDERC - 21.12.22, 23:10:14 CET:
> I’d like to recommend using « apt upgrade » which has a slightly
> different behaviour than apt-get : it will upgrade already installed
> packages but also install new packages where necessary (which apt-get
> upgrade won’t do).
>
> This will leave
Marc Haber - 21.12.22, 21:37:45 CET:
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 12:50:45PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Marc Haber - 21.12.22, 12:00:39 CET:
> > > > Stop using *dist-*upgrade by DEFAULT.
> > >
> > > *AMEN* to that.
> >
> > I usually do "dist-upgrade", but then look carefully what it is
>
Hi all,
Le mercredi 21 décembre 2022, 21:37:45 CET Marc Haber a écrit :
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 12:50:45PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Marc Haber - 21.12.22, 12:00:39 CET:
> > > > Stop using *dist-*upgrade by DEFAULT.
> > >
> > > *AMEN* to that.
> >
> > I usually do "dist-upgrade",
On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 21:37:45 +0100
Marc Haber wrote:
>
> P.S. dist-upgrade is as deprecated as it could be, it's not even in
> the man page any more
>
It's called "full-upgrade" in apt and aptitude, but it's still called
"dist-upgrade" in apt-get, which still gets installed with the apt
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 12:50:45PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Marc Haber - 21.12.22, 12:00:39 CET:
> > > Stop using *dist-*upgrade by DEFAULT.
> >
> > *AMEN* to that.
>
> I usually do "dist-upgrade", but then look carefully what it is about to
> do. If I don't like that, I only to
Marc Haber - 21.12.22, 12:00:39 CET:
> > Stop using *dist-*upgrade by DEFAULT.
>
> *AMEN* to that.
I usually do "dist-upgrade", but then look carefully what it is about to
do. If I don't like that, I only to "upgrade".
Of course one can argue it is safer to do it the other way around.
Ciao,
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 11:42:17AM +0100, Diederik de Haas wrote:
> On Wednesday, 21 December 2022 11:01:07 CET Sedat Dilek wrote:
> > P.S.: If you are Debian/unstable AMD64 user and are experienced
> > enough, you can try on YOUR OWN RISK.
> >
> > To pass daily dist-upgrades I did the
On Wednesday, 21 December 2022 11:01:07 CET Sedat Dilek wrote:
> P.S.: If you are Debian/unstable AMD64 user and are experienced
> enough, you can try on YOUR OWN RISK.
>
> To pass daily dist-upgrades I did the following:
>
> [ Set all QT v5.15.6 packages on hold ]
> root# VER="5.15..6" ; for p
Hi Martin,
thanks for the hint in things of QT version 5.15.7 transition.
This will require to rebuild KDE/Frameworks, KDE/Plasma and KDE/apps
(gears) and will take some time.
You can inform yourself about the transition status here:
Link:
Hi!
Qt Transition ongoing. AFAIK that will be the intended version for next
stable.
On my system it would remove most of Plasma on a dist-upgrade. So give
it some time if its similar on your setup.
Best,
--
Martin
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