Re: GPL link against non-free in original work (Re: Isn't a kde version..)

1999-05-29 Thread John Hasler
Peter writes: However, I'm confident he would sue us if that makes a difference? I assume you meant to write ...he wouldn't sue...? Most of the authors who publish under whacky non-free licenses probably wouldn't sue. Lawsuits are not the only reason to be careful, though. We also want to

Re: IBM PUBLIC LICENSE - OpenSource?

1999-05-29 Thread John Hasler
Ben Pfaff writes: This clause in particular I find confusing. I'm not at all sure what it means: It means that Sun can put the Program in Solaris and distribute it under the Solaris license, but that in doing so they agree to take responsibility for any lawsuits that result. -- John Hasler

Re: IBM PUBLIC LICENSE - OpenSource?

1999-05-29 Thread John Hasler
Joseph Carter writes: Only the lawyers at IBM could take a two paragraph BSDish license and make 9 pages out of it. Much closer to GPL than BSD, IMHO. You can distribute binaries under your license, but you must make source available under the IBM license. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: IBM PUBLIC LICENSE - OpenSource?

1999-05-29 Thread John Hasler
Marcelo E. Magallon writes: I browsed IBM's site, but I couldn't find any reference that claims this license is OpenSource... I don't know if it is Open Source, but IMHO it is free. I don't like that final sentences about compliabce with laws, but I think we can live with it. I *really* like

Re: IBM PUBLIC LICENSE - OpenSource?

1999-05-29 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, May 28, 1999 at 06:46:13PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Only the lawyers at IBM could take a two paragraph BSDish license and make 9 pages out of it. Much closer to GPL than BSD, IMHO. You can distribute binaries under your license, but you must make source available under the IBM

Re: [awansink@ke.com.au: Re: Isn't a kde version of abiword illegal?]

1999-05-29 Thread Chris Lawrence
On May 28, Darren O. Benham wrote: From what I read in FSF/GNU documentation, it's only necessary for segnifigant contributions, not a few lines of code. I think all the major contributors to Abi are employees of AbiSource.. Every thing else are seperate libraries. ... which may have their

Re: IBM PUBLIC LICENSE - OpenSource?

1999-05-29 Thread John Hasler
I wrotes: Much closer to GPL than BSD, IMHO. You can distribute binaries under your license, but you must make source available under the IBM license. Joseph Carter writes: You just described the BSD license... The BSD license (less warrantee disclaimer): Redistribution and use in source

Re: [awansink@ke.com.au: Re: Isn't a kde version of abiword illegal?]

1999-05-29 Thread John Hasler
Chris Lawrence writes: Is the LGPL (AbiWord uses glib internally) Qt-compatible? The LGPL is everything compatible. That is its purpose. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: (Fwd) Re: [awansink@ke.com.au: Re: Isn't a kde version of abiw

1999-05-29 Thread Riku Voipio
On Fri, May 28, 1999 at 09:00:22PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote: Um.. no... it's more like: developers to debian-legal: Is the GPL compatible with QT? I.e., is it legal to link GPL'd code to QTv2? Debian-legal to developers: Not that we can see. QT and GPL are incompatible. I consider

Re: GPL link against non-free in original work (Re: Isn't a kde version..)

1999-05-29 Thread Richard Braakman
Peter S Galbraith wrote: I'd like to change the license (currently GPL) like this: This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the

Re: [awansink@ke.com.au: Re: Isn't a kde version of abiword illegal?]

1999-05-29 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, May 28, 1999 at 09:54:37PM -0500, Chris Lawrence wrote: From what I read in FSF/GNU documentation, it's only necessary for segnifigant contributions, not a few lines of code. I think all the major contributors to Abi are employees of AbiSource.. Every thing else are seperate

Re: (Fwd) Re: [awansink@ke.com.au: Re: Isn't a kde version of abiw

1999-05-29 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, May 29, 1999 at 10:50:05AM +0300, Riku Voipio wrote: Why doesn't QTv2 fall under the system clause? Afterall, we know several GPL:d apps that link them on motif, for example ddd. It can, however to quote GPL: the source code distributed need not include anything that is

Re: (Fwd) Re: [awansink@ke.com.au: Re: Isn't a kde version of abiw

1999-05-29 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Sat, May 29, 1999 at 10:50:05AM +0300, Riku Voipio wrote: On Fri, May 28, 1999 at 09:00:22PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote: Um.. no... it's more like: developers to debian-legal: Is the GPL compatible with QT? I.e., is it legal to link GPL'd code to QTv2? Debian-legal to

Re: (Fwd) Re: [awansink@ke.com.au: Re: Isn't a kde version of abiw

1999-05-29 Thread Navindra Umanee
Montreal Sat May 29 09:55:38 1999 Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Riku Voipio wrote: Why doesn't QTv2 fall under the system clause? It might, but that will make no difference. That clause would let other people distribute GPL'd programs linked with Qt. It wouldn't help us.

Re: (Fwd) Re: [awansink@ke.com.au: Re: Isn't a kde version of abiw

1999-05-29 Thread Navindra Umanee
Montreal Sat May 29 10:03:30 1999 Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is hotly debated, some people say that nothing X-based should be considered part of the operating system, others say that Qt, gtk, and X are all part of Linux, and others still say that Qt would have to be at least

Re: GPL link against non-free in original work (Re: Isn't a kde version..)

1999-05-29 Thread Peter S Galbraith
John Hasler wrote: Peter writes: However, I'm confident he would sue us if that makes a difference? I assume you meant to write ...he wouldn't sue...? Sorry. Right. Most of the authors who publish under whacky non-free licenses probably wouldn't sue. Lawsuits are not the only reason

Re: GPL link against non-free in original work (Re: Isn't a kde version..)

1999-05-29 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Richard Braakman wrote: Peter S Galbraith wrote: I'd like to change the license (currently GPL) like this: Additionally, you are granted permission to assume, for the purposes of distributing this program in object code or executable form under

Re: Isn't a kde version of abiw

1999-05-29 Thread Riku Voipio
On Sat, May 29, 1999 at 08:03:11AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Riku Voipio writes: Why doesn't QTv2 fall under the system clause? Because it isn't priority essential. Neither is GCC nor kernel... The border is drawn in the water. I know, both are under GPL, but GPL mention's kernel and