Re: Bug#523093: undetermined copyright/license violation

2009-04-09 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 874owy8qth@benfinney.id.au, Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au writes Anthony W. Youngman deb...@thewolery.demon.co.uk writes: Basically he should put there (c) Hubert and licence GPLv3+. Small nit (and all in my layman's understanding): Copyright notices, when they were

Re: Bug#523093: undetermined copyright/license violation

2009-04-09 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Robert Millan wrote: For an example, if a program has three authors, one of whom uses BSD, the second uses LGPL 2.1 or later and the third uses GPL 3 then the Venn Intersect is GPL 3, which is the licence that applies to the work as a whole. However, any recipient is at full liberty to

Re: Bug#523093: undetermined copyright/license violation

2009-04-09 Thread Ben Finney
Anthony W. Youngman deb...@thewolery.demon.co.uk writes: I was really meaning that the author SHOULD claim copyright... […] if there's no claim of copyright by the owner, then it's a bugger if you want to use your Free Software rights - it makes it hard for you to exercise them because you

Re: Bug#523093: undetermined copyright/license violation

2009-04-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 11:47:14AM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: Robert Millan wrote: For an example, if a program has three authors, one of whom uses BSD, the second uses LGPL 2.1 or later and the third uses GPL 3 then the Venn Intersect is GPL 3, which is the licence that applies to

Re: tg3 firmware - was (Fw: [CASE#221365]: Closed - need firmware files)

2009-04-09 Thread brian m. carlson
[CC'd -legal as well; you probably want to follow up there.] On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 05:46:58PM +0200, Daniel Knabl wrote: Seems to me that Broadcom Inc. does really allow Debian to re-distribute the included firmware explicitly. The GPLv2 requires that distributors provide source code in

Re: tg3 firmware - was (Fw: [CASE#221365]: Closed - need firmware files)

2009-04-09 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:41:12 + brian m. carlson sand...@crustytoothpaste.ath.cx wrote: [CC'd -legal as well; you probably want to follow up there.] On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 05:46:58PM +0200, Daniel Knabl wrote: Seems to me that Broadcom Inc. does really allow Debian to re-distribute the

Re: Bug#523093: undetermined copyright/license violation

2009-04-09 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On 04/09/2009 03:57 PM, Robert Millan wrote: If you add new function to a LGPL file, and your changes are GPL only, *practically* the file is only GPL, but the original code is still LGPL, so better to explicit write also the LGPL. Sounds reasonable. Hubert, can we do that? Let me know

Re: Bug#523093: undetermined copyright/license violation

2009-04-09 Thread Francesco Poli
[I hope I managed to figure out who I should include in the Cc: list...] On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:58:07 -0400 Hubert Figuiere wrote: On 04/09/2009 03:57 PM, Robert Millan wrote: If you add new function to a LGPL file, and your changes are GPL only, *practically* the file is only GPL, but

Re: tg3 firmware - was (Fw: [CASE#221365]: Closed - need firmware files)

2009-04-09 Thread brian m. carlson
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 10:06:55PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:41:12 + brian m. carlson sand...@crustytoothpaste.ath.cx wrote: [CC'd -legal as well; you probably want to follow up there.] I don't need to be CC'd, thanks. M-F-T set accordingly. On Thu, Apr 09,

Re: Bug#523093: undetermined copyright/license violation

2009-04-09 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On 04/09/2009 06:13 PM, Francesco Poli wrote: I think the clean way is adding a note that explicitly states that the file is a (possibly modified) translation intoprogramming_language_2 of code originally written inprogramming_language_1 and that the original code is Copyright ©years

Re: tg3 firmware - was (Fw: [CASE#221365]: Closed - need firmware files)

2009-04-09 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 10, brian m. carlson sand...@crustytoothpaste.ath.cx wrote: I don't know about you, but I'd much prefer to modify any sort of program, firmware or not, using C or assembly rather than editing the binary directly. I suspect that this is the case for any reasonable programmer. Thus, we

Re: tg3 firmware - was (Fw: [CASE#221365]: Closed - need firmware files)

2009-04-09 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2009-04-10 at 03:32 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Apr 10, brian m. carlson sand...@crustytoothpaste.ath.cx wrote: I don't know about you, but I'd much prefer to modify any sort of program, firmware or not, using C or assembly rather than editing the binary directly. I suspect

Re: Bug#523093: undetermined copyright/license violation

2009-04-09 Thread Adam Majer
Robert Millan wrote: And so on. * Copyright (C) 2009 Hubert Figuiere is simply false, Alright. So, I understand you mean option 1 (see my paragraph starting with The new file seems to be asserting... above). Unless there's a clear consensus in -legal that this is not a problem, I will