Re: Free as in speech, but not as in beer

2015-03-24 Thread Walter Landry
Paul van der Vlis p...@vandervlis.nl wrote: Hello Miriam, Op 24-03-15 om 21:05 schreef Miriam Ruiz: 2015-03-24 20:04 GMT+01:00 Paul van der Vlis p...@vandervlis.nl: Op 24-03-15 om 18:38 schreef Paul R. Tagliamonte: Unless it allows modification and redistribution of this (and we do so),

Re: Free as in speech, but not as in beer

2015-03-24 Thread Jeff Epler
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 04:42:08PM +0100, Paul van der Vlis wrote: Hello, Is there in Debian room for a program what's free as in speech (AGPL) but not as in beer? Debian contains software in main which is covered by the AGPLv3. In 2008, Joerg Jaspert wrote on behalf of the ftpmasters and

Re: Free as in speech, but not as in beer

2015-03-24 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 24-03-15 om 18:38 schreef Paul R. Tagliamonte: Unless it allows modification and redistribution of this (and we do so), its not dfsg free. Modefication and redistributing is allowed because it's pure AGPL v.3. But the creator would not like it when the 5-user restriction would be removed

Free as in speech, but not as in beer

2015-03-24 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Hello, Is there in Debian room for a program what's free as in speech (AGPL) but not as in beer? The program wants a fee when you create more then 5 users. It's a program for enterprises. You can change the sources, but you will understand that the makers hope to get some money for the further

Re: Free as in speech, but not as in beer

2015-03-24 Thread Riley Baird
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 20:04:36 +0100 Paul van der Vlis p...@vandervlis.nl wrote: Op 24-03-15 om 18:38 schreef Paul R. Tagliamonte: Unless it allows modification and redistribution of this (and we do so), What when the DD who packages it, would package it with the 5 user limitation? The DD

Re: Free as in speech, but not as in beer

2015-03-24 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 24-03-15 om 18:38 schreef Paul R. Tagliamonte: Unless it allows modification and redistribution of this (and we do so), What when the DD who packages it, would package it with the 5 user limitation? With regards, Paul van der Vlis. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer, Groningen

Re: Free as in speech, but not as in beer

2015-03-24 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2015-03-24 20:04 GMT+01:00 Paul van der Vlis p...@vandervlis.nl: Op 24-03-15 om 18:38 schreef Paul R. Tagliamonte: Unless it allows modification and redistribution of this (and we do so), What when the DD who packages it, would package it with the 5 user limitation? If the 5 user limitation

Re: Free as in speech, but not as in beer

2015-03-24 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Paul van der Vlis wrote: Op 24-03-15 om 18:38 schreef Paul R. Tagliamonte: Unless it allows modification and redistribution of this (and we do so), What when the DD who packages it, would package it with the 5 user limitation? If it was actually AGPLed in its

Re: Free as in speech, but not as in beer

2015-03-24 Thread Paul R. Tagliamonte
On Mar 24, 2015 1:17 PM, Jeff Epler jep...@unpythonic.net wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 04:42:08PM +0100, Paul van der Vlis wrote: Hello, Is there in Debian room for a program what's free as in speech (AGPL) but not as in beer? Debian contains software in main which is covered by the

Re: Free as in speech, but not as in beer

2015-03-24 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Op 24-03-15 om 17:51 schreef Jeff Epler: On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 04:42:08PM +0100, Paul van der Vlis wrote: Hello, Is there in Debian room for a program what's free as in speech (AGPL) but not as in beer? Debian contains software in main which is covered by the AGPLv3. In 2008, Joerg

Re: Free as in speech, but not as in beer

2015-03-24 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
[Right, so I'm with Don; concrete examples here help] This is not the opinion of any organization I'm in, this is purely my reading. General notes I'm going to leave here because folks who think this way can skip it and see my reading - DFSG freenes is applied to *licenses*. Notice everything

Re: Free as in speech, but not as in beer

2015-03-24 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Hello Miriam, Op 24-03-15 om 21:05 schreef Miriam Ruiz: 2015-03-24 20:04 GMT+01:00 Paul van der Vlis p...@vandervlis.nl: Op 24-03-15 om 18:38 schreef Paul R. Tagliamonte: Unless it allows modification and redistribution of this (and we do so), What when the DD who packages it, would package