Re: Alternatives to the Affero General Public License

2005-06-28 Thread Nathanael Nerode
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because the AGPL has some implementation issues that make it possibly incompatible with the DFSG, I've been trying to find an alternative that would still protect source-code redistribution on line. First, do no harm. Any such license must, at a minimum, guarantee

Re: Alternatives to the Affero General Public License

2005-06-23 Thread Mark Rafn
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, Gregor Richards wrote: I doubt that it is compliant with the Dissident Problem by your opinions ( plural your), but I think that it's well within line of all of the other requirements, I contend that the dissident problem is not the only sticking point; fundamentally you

Re: Alternatives to the Affero General Public License

2005-06-22 Thread Jacobo Tarrio
O Martes, 21 de Xuño de 2005 ás 20:07:36 -0700, Gregor Richards escribía: In response section 6: (So that I can reference, the full section:) 6. Each time you redistribute the Program (or any work based on the Program), the recipient automatically receives a license from the original

Re: Alternatives to the Affero General Public License

2005-06-22 Thread Gregor Richards
Jacobo Tarrio wrote: O Martes, 21 de Xuño de 2005 ás 20:07:36 -0700, Gregor Richards escribía: In response section 6: (So that I can reference, the full section:) 6. Each time you redistribute the Program (or any work based on the Program), the recipient automatically receives a license from

Re: Alternatives to the Affero General Public License

2005-06-22 Thread Gregor Richards
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:57:39 -0700, Gregor Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jacobo Tarrio wrote: O Martes, 21 de Xuño de 2005 ás 20:07:36 -0700, Gregor Richards escribía: In response section 6: (So that I can reference, the full section:) 6. Each time you redistribute the Program (or

Re: Alternatives to the Affero General Public License

2005-06-22 Thread Humberto Massa Guimarães
Hi Gregor. Let's see if I can understand your motivations, and help you. ** Gregor Richards :: In response to An interface to the program, not the program itself Am I the only person who fails to see this as a significant difference? I don't think the freedoms of Free Software should be

Re: Alternatives to the Affero General Public License

2005-06-22 Thread Gregor Richards
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:05:00 -0700, Gregor Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Because the AGPL has some implementation issues that make it possibly incompatible with the DFSG, I've been trying to find an alternative that would still protect source-code redistribution on line. Basically, I'm

Re: Alternatives to the Affero General Public License

2005-06-22 Thread Mark Rafn
Before going too far down this road, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/03/msg00805.html for some fundamental questions about where to draw the line on this requirement. Unless you're willing to say all changes must be published, even if never released, it's gonna be tough to

Re: Alternatives to the Affero General Public License

2005-06-22 Thread Mark Rafn
I've trimmed a bunch of stuff, trying to leave only the real sticking points. Basically, I believe the task requires restriction of use, not just distribution, and Debian should never accept it, so you may just want to ignore me if you think use restrictions are allowed. Some things your

Re: Alternatives to the Affero General Public License

2005-06-22 Thread Humberto Massa Guimarães
** Mark Rafn :: On Wed, 22 Jun 2005, Gregor Richards wrote: The term Free Software is open to interpretation, the DFSG is not the be-all-end-all of what is and isn't Free. True. This is why I use and support Debian - it's the closest thing I can find to my personal definition of

Re: Alternatives to the Affero General Public License

2005-06-22 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 10:19 -0700, Gregor Richards wrote: In response to Still unworkable. I want to use the code for some embedded use ... How is this unworkable? To support the HTTP protocol to the degree of sending source code does not require a full HTTP sever per se. Hell, you could

Re: Alternatives to the Affero General Public License

2005-06-22 Thread Gregor Richards
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 16:04:27 -0500, Jeff Licquia [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 10:19 -0700, Gregor Richards wrote: In response to Still unworkable. I want to use the code for some embedded use ... How is this unworkable? To support the HTTP protocol to the degree of

Re: Alternatives to the Affero General Public License

2005-06-22 Thread Gregor Richards
Mark Rafn wrote: I'd like to encourage you to think less along the lines it's currently a web server, so the license should cater to that case and more like people should be able to make things out of this that I haven't thought of, using methodologies yet undreamt. This can't happen if

Re: Alternatives to the Affero General Public License

2005-06-22 Thread Gregor Richards
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:36:50 -0700, Gregor Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Mark Rafn wrote: I'd like to encourage you to think less along the lines it's currently a web server, so the license should cater to that case and more like people should be able to make things out of this that

Alternatives to the Affero General Public License

2005-06-21 Thread Gregor Richards
Because the AGPL has some implementation issues that make it possibly incompatible with the DFSG, I've been trying to find an alternative that would still protect source-code redistribution on line. Basically, I'm trying to write a special exception to the GNU GPL that would add this without some

Re: Alternatives to the Affero General Public License

2005-06-21 Thread Brian M. Carlson
On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 19:05 -0700, Gregor Richards wrote: Because the AGPL has some implementation issues that make it possibly incompatible with the DFSG, I've been trying to find an alternative that would still protect source-code redistribution on line. Basically, I'm trying to write a

Re: Alternatives to the Affero General Public License

2005-06-21 Thread Gregor Richards
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 02:52:55 +, Brian M. Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 19:05 -0700, Gregor Richards wrote: Because the AGPL has some implementation issues that make it possibly incompatible with the DFSG, I've been trying to find an alternative that would still