Re: Clause 7d (was Re: Ironies abound (was Re: GPL v3 draft)

2006-01-19 Thread Gervase Markham
Nathanael Nerode wrote: So here it is: 7d. They may require that propagation of a covered work which causes it to have users other than You, must enable all users of the work to make and receive copies of the work. I like this, together with Arnoud's suggestions. But Walter is right; the

Clause 7d (was Re: Ironies abound (was Re: GPL v3 draft)

2006-01-18 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Well, I did devise a potentially Free alternative for the infamous clause 7d after an hour or two's thought. The key point here was that the clause suffered from specifying means rather than ends, which we have diagnosed as a major source of license drafting errors. By restricting

Re: Clause 7d (was Re: Ironies abound (was Re: GPL v3 draft)

2006-01-18 Thread Josh Triplett
Nathanael Nerode wrote: The key point here was that the clause suffered from specifying means rather than ends, which we have diagnosed as a major source of license drafting errors. By restricting the functionality of the program and all derivative works, it causes endless trouble. That

Re: Clause 7d (was Re: Ironies abound (was Re: GPL v3 draft)

2006-01-18 Thread Arnoud Engelfriet
Nathanael Nerode wrote: 7d. They may require that propagation of a covered work which causes it to have users other than You, must enable all users of the work to make and receive copies of the work. This sounds a lot better. I would suggest using work based on the Program to re-use that

Re: Clause 7d

2006-01-18 Thread Walter Landry
Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I did devise a potentially Free alternative for the infamous clause 7d after an hour or two's thought. The key point here was that the clause suffered from specifying means rather than ends, which we have diagnosed as a major source

Re: Clause 7d (was Re: Ironies abound (was Re: GPL v3 draft)

2006-01-18 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 11:52:39AM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: Well, I did devise a potentially Free alternative for the infamous clause 7d after an hour or two's thought. The key point here was that the clause suffered from specifying means rather than ends, which we have diagnosed

Re: Clause 7d (was Re: Ironies abound (was Re: GPL v3 draft)

2006-01-18 Thread Alexander Terekhov
On 1/18/06, Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...} What do other people think of this? I think the GPLv3 is great. It's perfect impotence pill for (ordinary contractual) stuff like OSL, IPL, CPL and whatnot the FSF is going to deem now compatible. The OSI approval (I just pray that