Re: OpenSSL, SUN and ECC (patent issue)

2002-10-14 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Sat, 2002-10-12 at 12:47, Branden Robinson wrote: See, this is why I'm an atheist. But I have proof! I have pictures! http://armiesofdarkness.com/images/angel-small.jpg ;-) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: OpenSSL, SUN and ECC (patent issue)

2002-10-12 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 04:03:47PM +, Brian M. Carlson wrote: ECC itself is not patent encumbered, but the most popular curves are. These curves (mathematical equations, essentially) are patented by Certicom, not Sun. It's like patenting a (p, q) pair for DSA or Elgamal, except that these

Re: OpenSSL, SUN and ECC (patent issue)

2002-10-11 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Fri, Oct 11, 2002 at 01:23:25AM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: (Did you forget to send to the mailing list? Feel free to quote me in public.) done. On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 11:59:54PM +0200, Toni Mueller wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 10:16:50PM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote:

Re: OpenSSL, SUN and ECC (patent issue)

2002-10-11 Thread Brian M. Carlson
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 10:16:50PM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 04:59:50PM +0200, Toni Mueller wrote: [obnoxious clause] We've discussed it on this list already, but the remaining open question is, what patents do they have that they refer to here? If ECC is

Re: OpenSSL, SUN and ECC (patent issue)

2002-10-11 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Toni Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh - I see what you mean, but shipping this code poses many people at risk of inadvertantly infringing on a patent if there is one in the first place, because many people would just use the code in good faith that the Open on the packkage label and the

Re: OpenSSL, SUN and ECC (patent issue)

2002-10-10 Thread Richard Braakman
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 04:59:50PM +0200, Toni Mueller wrote: From that FAQ: Sun grants to OpenSSL users the right to make use of the contributed patented technology in the context of OpenSSL. We've discussed it on this list already, but the remaining open question is,