Re: simplest copyleft license for a wiki

2003-11-27 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alex Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. You have the right to copy, modify, and/or distribute the work. I don't know what and/or means, but I find it hard to imagine a definition of and/or which would make this sentence mean that I have clear

Re: simplest copyleft license for a wiki

2003-11-27 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cf. the pine/UW attack which interpreted right to modify and distribute as: You have the right to modify. You have the right to distribute. You *don't* have the right to do both at once. So, you're saying that and on its own doesn't allow

Re: simplest copyleft license for a wiki

2003-11-26 Thread Dylan Thurston
On 2003-11-26, Alex Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hm, maybe that is up to the courts to decide. It doesn't look like a copyleft to me, but that's just my first impression. I'm used to this definition from the FSF site: Copyleft is a general method for making a program free software

Re: simplest copyleft license for a wiki

2003-11-26 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Brian T. Sniffen wrote: Alex Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But even then, you're going to have two problems: consider, for example, the BSD Preservation License Can you point me to an URL with the license text? I didn't find it with Google. Shoot, I was

simplest copyleft license for a wiki

2003-11-25 Thread Alex Schroeder
emacswiki.org uses the FDL at the moment; I'd like to move away from the FDL to a very simple license I can understand in two minutes, and I want to allow people to upgrade to the FDL, the GPL, the Creative Commons ShareAlike (CC SA) license, the XEmacs manual license, or any other copyleft

Re: simplest copyleft license for a wiki

2003-11-25 Thread Brian M. Carlson
On Sat, Nov 22, 2003 at 02:38:20PM +0100, Alex Schroeder wrote: I'm looking for some advice concerning the wording of the following license. The goal is to keep this license as short as possible while still making it a copyleft license upgradable to any of the other licenses. 1. You

Re: simplest copyleft license for a wiki

2003-11-25 Thread Brian T. Sniffen
Alex Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: emacswiki.org uses the FDL at the moment; I'd like to move away from the FDL to a very simple license I can understand in two minutes, and I want to allow people to upgrade to the FDL, the GPL, the Creative Commons ShareAlike (CC SA) license, the

Re: simplest copyleft license for a wiki

2003-11-25 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Nov 22, 2003 at 02:38:20PM +0100, Alex Schroeder wrote: 4. When you distribute the work, you must provide the recipients access to the preferred form for making copies and modifications, for no more than your costs of doing so. It is worth noting that this clause is

Re: simplest copyleft license for a wiki

2003-11-25 Thread Alex Schroeder
Brian M. Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You should spell these licenses out in full, such as the GNU General Public License, as published by the Free Software Foundation. You should include the as published by clause so that nobody unscrupulous decides to publish a GPL that is really a

Re: simplest copyleft license for a wiki

2003-11-25 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 01:30:46AM +0100, Alex Schroeder wrote: Why do you think it is not appropriate for a legal document? I have heard a friend with a law PhD here in Switzerland say that a broad and fuzzy text is just as appropriate for legal texts, because then the court will examine the

Re: simplest copyleft license for a wiki

2003-11-25 Thread Alex Schroeder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian T. Sniffen) writes: I don't think you want to say You can change the license -- perhaps you want to say You may also choose to receive this under the terms of any other copyleft license, such as the GNU GPL, CreativeCommons ShareAlike, or XEmacs Manual License.