jack-audio-connection-kit 0.102.20-2
Hi all, etch is out! :) As we discussed a while ago I'd like to upload the a new revision of jack to unstable. Basically the changes are the one annotated in the changelog here: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/demudi/jack-audio-connection-kit/trunk/debian/changelog?op=filerev=0sc=0 I've everything is fine for you I'd proceed with the upload later this week. Ciao! Free -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jackd hell and other oddities
Hi Marco, 1) A multimedia/desktop oriented kernel like the one in 64Studio or here: ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/deb/kernel/n I believe Musix now uses the 64 Studio kernel packages, so that's one less variable ;-) Ubuntu Studio is not going for a Molnar-style RT kernel, according to an interview with Cory Kontros I read. The reason why this has not been made already it's a secret to me, and a even weirder one. I believe it's because in the mainstream, audio on GNU/Linux has mostly been addressed from the point of view of a so-called 'consumer'. So distros have tried to solve questions like How do I make my iPod work out of the box, so I can re-arrange my collection of Britney Spears downloads? rather than How do I tune my kernel and OS for maximum performance when tracking 24 channels over my ADAT interface? I believe free software has a role to play in providing serious, reliable tools to the people that need them, in order to enable and enhance their creativity. Among other free software advocates, there is an argument that says we need to chase the tail-lights of OS X and Windows Vista in providing a slick 'consumer' experience, which has very little to do with RT kernels or tools like jackd. Cheers! Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jackd hell and other oddities
Daniel James escribe: I believe Musix now uses the 64 Studio kernel packages, so that's one less variable ;-) Ubuntu Studio is not going for a Molnar-style RT kernel, according to an interview with Cory Kontros I read. That's not the case. Musix kernels are packaged by Tapani Raikkonen which by the way is doing a great job, Musix is delivered with the most recent kernels suitable to be patched for realtime work. I believe it's because in the mainstream, audio on GNU/Linux has mostly been addressed from the point of view of a so-called 'consumer'. So distros have tried to solve questions like How do I make my iPod work out of the box, so I can re-arrange my collection of Britney Spears downloads? rather than How do I tune my kernel and OS for maximum performance when tracking 24 channels over my ADAT interface? I agree with that. A system suitable for those who enjoy multimedia just for fun is very different than a system for those who use a system for multimedia creation. Indeed almost nobody really needs jackd to be installed unless she pretends to use ardour, zynaddsubfx or similar soft. So I think it's ok that Debian doesn't focus on multimedia creation given there are more suitable distros adapted from the Debian main one. Cordially, Ismael -- Ismael Valladolid Torres m. +34679156321 La media hostia j. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lamediahostia.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Jackd hell and other oddities
Hi Daniel, Hi Marco, 1) A multimedia/desktop oriented kernel like the one in 64Studio or here: ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/deb/kernel/n I believe Musix now uses the 64 Studio kernel packages, so that's one less variable ;-) Ubuntu Studio is not going for a Molnar-style RT kernel, according to an interview with Cory Kontros I read. Nice, but I was meaning having it into the official Debian archive, not in an external repository. I know many people who use Ubuntu kernel on Debian for its responsiveness and this is a bit strange. IMHO Debian should install a desktop friendly kernel if the user chose during the installation the Desktop task. Does it make sense? The reason why this has not been made already it's a secret to me, and a even weirder one. I believe it's because in the mainstream, audio on GNU/Linux has mostly been addressed from the point of view of a so-called 'consumer'. So distros have tried to solve questions like How do I make my iPod work out of the box, so I can re-arrange my collection of Britney Spears downloads? rather than How do I tune my kernel and OS for maximum performance when tracking 24 channels over my ADAT interface? I love Britney, especially after she shaved everywhere... ;-) Poor girl... I believe free software has a role to play in providing serious, reliable tools to the people that need them, in order to enable and enhance their creativity. Among other free software advocates, there is an argument that says we need to chase the tail-lights of OS X and Windows Vista in providing a slick 'consumer' experience, which has very little to do with RT kernels or tools like jackd. Responsiveness, always IMHO, is exactly the point. I get lots of question from people saying two things: 1) a default Linux installation is less snappy (responsive) than a fresh Windows install (in example using the same software like Audacity) BUT 2) they all see easily that Linux doesn't get slower also if you add thousands of packages (no defrag needed, as we all know) and the two things in a way are inexplicable to them. Short version: 1) Include in Debian a Multimedia/Desktop Kernel 2) Make Jackd usable out of the box or after the installation of a normal package In any way I want to make clear that my questions/suggestions are based only on a personal point of view/experience and in no way I have the rights/merit to contrast your opinions. Free as in speech... Regards, Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jackd hell and other oddities
Marco Ghirlanda escribe: 1) a default Linux installation is less snappy (responsive) than a fresh Windows install (in example using the same software like Audacity) As far as both default installations have no software and in Debian all software is just an apt-get away, I admit I don't understand your point. 1) Include in Debian a Multimedia/Desktop Kernel I agree it should also be available an apt-get away nevertheless. 2) Make Jackd usable out of the box or after the installation of a normal package I find it usable out of the box... Cordially, Ismael -- Ismael Valladolid Torres m. +34679156321 La media hostia j. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lamediahostia.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
