Hi folks,
I remember discussing keyboard issues a long time ago...
On 13 Sep, this message from Michel Dänzer echoed through cyberspace:
On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 18:06 +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote:
Now there is one question left: what is the standard model?
In the terminoology of xkb-data
Ideally, the kernel should send up the same codes as a PC keyboard.
It doesn't always do that - that's why I asked for someone to collect the
ADB init messages. More precisely, we need those together with the xkb
model that works right for a particular machine. Maybe the ISO keyboards
Now there is one question left: what is the standard model?
In the terminoology of xkb-data 0.8-12exp1, is this macintosh_old2
or macintosh? I would say the former, since these are the same keycodes
as with PC keyboards, but I would be glad if someone could confirm.
Oh, one more
On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 18:06 +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote:
Now there is one question left: what is the standard model?
In the terminoology of xkb-data 0.8-12exp1, is this macintosh_old2
or macintosh? I would say the former, since these are the same keycodes
as with PC keyboards, but I
keyboards). The kernel should detect this and always generate the same
PC-style keycodes, but fails to do so in some cases. I think the
keyboard type can be deferred from
dmesg|grep 'adb devices'
but I forget how exactly.
dmesg|grep -A 10 'adb devices'
shows the whole set of kernel ADB
[... most interesting discussion of xkb workings snipped ...]
In unstable, there are 2 models: macintosh and macintosh_old.
The latter is for older kernels, and should probably be renamed into
macintosh_adb for clarity reasons.
Please pick another name - macintosh_old is strictly for ADB Macs
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 03:50:37PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote:
[... most interesting discussion of xkb workings snipped ...]
In unstable, there are 2 models: macintosh and macintosh_old.
The latter is for older kernels, and should probably be renamed into
macintosh_adb for clarity
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 10:15:38PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
On Mon, Sep 11, 2006 at 03:50:37PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote:
Please pick another name - macintosh_old is strictly for ADB Macs that use
a very old kernel (or a compatibility feature) to send keycodes in the ADB
mapping. The
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 07:31:47PM +0200, Yannick Roehlly wrote:
Good late summer evening, (well, in southern France at least)
Bin Zhang wrote:
Option XkbModel ibook
With the ibook layout, it was working; but I prefer to use the macintosh
layout so that the keypad enter behaves as
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 12:08:10PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
[...]
I'm not sure a model will cut it either. Here's my recollection of the
problem:
The hardware keycodes of these keys can be swapped, depending on layout
and maybe other factors (IIRC it's about ISO vs. other variants of ADB
Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
Hem, under osx, to have the |\ etc. you need to press the apple key, not
the alt key (on a french keyboard at least).
As Bin said, here it's the alt key which is a modifier. The apple key is
used for shortcuts (apple+o = Open...).
Yannick
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On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 20:10 +0200, Yannick Roehlly wrote:
As Bin said, here it's the alt key which is a modifier. The apple key
is
used for shortcuts (apple+o = Open...).
Ah, yes, sorry :)
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On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 10:52:05PM +0200, Yannick Roehlly wrote:
Yannick Roehlly wrote:
On the French layout, the / and @/# keys are swapted.
I just noticed that that's the meaning of Since all reports so far
complained that LSGT and TLDE keys are swapped, this is now the
default. If
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 08:46 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
You can set model to macintosh_old2, this is a workaround until we find
exactly which models need swapped keys. Can you please
cat /proc/cpuinfo
and send its output?
FWIW, IIRC this may actually be a kernel issue (its keyboard type
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:36:14AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 08:46 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
You can set model to macintosh_old2, this is a workaround until we find
exactly which models need swapped keys. Can you please
cat /proc/cpuinfo
and send its
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 11:42 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:36:14AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 08:46 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
You can set model to macintosh_old2, this is a workaround until we find
exactly which models need swapped
Hi Denis,
Denis Barbier wrote:
You can set model to macintosh_old2, this is a workaround until we find
exactly which models need swapped keys.
Well, if I do a
setxkbmap -rules xorg -model macintosh_old -layout fr -option
the window manager dies (but not X) - tested with KDE/Kwin
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 13:09 +0200, Yannick Roehlly wrote:
Denis Barbier wrote:
You can set model to macintosh_old2, this is a workaround until we find
exactly which models need swapped keys.
Well, if I do a
setxkbmap -rules xorg -model macintosh_old -layout fr -option
On 9/8/06, Yannick Roehlly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Denis,
Denis Barbier wrote:
You can set model to macintosh_old2, this is a workaround until we find
exactly which models need swapped keys.
Well, if I do a
setxkbmap -rules xorg -model macintosh_old -layout fr -option
the
Good late summer evening, (well, in southern France at least)
Bin Zhang wrote:
Option XkbModel ibook
With the ibook layout, it was working; but I prefer to use the macintosh
layout so that the keypad enter behaves as KP_Enter.
As Michel pointed at, the problem was that I've half
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 19:31 +0200, Yannick Roehlly wrote:
PS: By the way Denis, just a thought. On MacOs X, the
ISO_Level3_shift key
is the alt key. With xkb, it's the right alt key, la PC AltGr. I
don't
know how good would be the idea to make the alt key ISO_Level3_shift
and
the apple key
On 9/9/06, Yves-Alexis Perez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 2006-09-08 at 19:31 +0200, Yannick Roehlly wrote:
PS: By the way Denis, just a thought. On MacOs X, the
ISO_Level3_shift key
is the alt key. With xkb, it's the right alt key, la PC AltGr. I
don't
know how good would be the idea
Hi Denis,
On the French layout, the / and @/# keys are swapted.
Yannick
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Yannick Roehlly wrote:
On the French layout, the / and @/# keys are swapted.
I just noticed that that's the meaning of Since all reports so far
complained that LSGT and TLDE keys are swapped, this is now the
default. If this breaks your keyboard, please speak up.
Is there an option to revert
On Wed, 2006-09-06 at 21:29 +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
Since all reports so far complained that LSGT and TLDE
keys are swapped, this is now the default. If this breaks
your keyboard, please speak up.
Here (powerbook 5,6) it works like a charm. Thanks, really.
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As explained in
http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2006/08/msg00336.html
I need your help to fix Macintosh keyboards. These changes
will be pushed upstream when known bugs are fixed, and I
would like to do it as soon as possible.
Since all reports so far complained that LSGT and TLDE
keys
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