On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 07:29:20AM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
some questions I still see without a clear answer:
ACK on most answers from Luk, some more comments on some of them
below.
- what about non-DDs that are currently tracked in MIA database,
along with DDs?
Nothing changes
I'm of the opinion that Debian should not support such packages with
archive space, mirror space, bts, qa/etc. I suggest such packages
belong in an 'unsupported' archive with all the other .dsc source
packages out there that are not in Debian and not yet collected in one
place:
Teemu Likonen wrote:
On 2009-07-30 13:12 (+0200), Sven Joachim wrote:
On 2009-07-30 11:36 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
Oh, and Debian got hundreds of active developers, and I doubt they'll
be running to Shuttleworth anytime soon.
Probably not, but the release synchronization with
Reinhard Tartler siret...@debian.org (03/08/2009):
[ moving discussion to -project. Please follow up on -devel if you are
contributing to the technical discussion and -project for the
project wide parts ]
[ replying to -project only, -devel readers will receive my status
update[1]
Steve Langasek wrote:
There seems to be an assumption here that Ubuntu would benefit from bugfixes
from Debian developers, but that the reverse would not be true. Is this
what you believe? Does that mean you don't think Ubuntu developers
contribute fixes back to Debian today?
While never
Hi Stefano,
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 09:21, Stefano Zacchiroliz...@debian.org wrote:
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 07:29:20AM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
some questions I still see without a clear answer:
ACK on most answers from Luk, some more comments on some of them
below.
- what about non-DDs
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 17:55, Anthony Townsa...@master.debian.org wrote:
Given the freeze-timeline proposed it could/should be. Ubuntu has its
DebianImportFreeze for karmic scheduled for June 25th; which should
translate for an LTS import freeze on December 25th-ish, shortly after
the Debian
[ Please note that I'm taking all my hats off for this post, especially ]
[ debian-release ones. ]
On 2009-08-03, Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org wrote:
What I'm wondering is: why should *we* adapt to ubuntu? why was not
ubuntu in the first place to
On 2009-07-30, Teemu Likonen tliko...@iki.fi wrote:
On 2009-07-30 13:12 (+0200), Sven Joachim wrote:
On 2009-07-30 11:36 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
Oh, and Debian got hundreds of active developers, and I doubt they'll
be running to Shuttleworth anytime soon.
Probably not, but the
Ana Guerrero wrote:
Hi,
I have setup http://news.debian.net/ where I intend to publish and link
information related to what is going on in the Debian project.
If you want to submit news you think it is interesting for developers and
users, you have several ways listed at:
Hi,
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 06:40:06PM +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote:
THEY STEAL our packages
Uarg. That sentence let me discard everything sensible/intelligent
you might have said in your mail. I often read sentences like that
in the discussion. It makes me sick and wonder if I do invest my time in
Hi,
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 07:53:05PM +0200, Joey Schulze wrote:
Out of curiousity, why not feed times.debian.net with these articles?
If you are asking why not to publish direclty in times.debian.net I have
addressed it on my blog post. (Not easy way to contribute, mostly oriented to
Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
On 2009-07-30, Teemu Likonen tliko...@iki.fi wrote:
On 2009-07-30 13:12 (+0200), Sven Joachim wrote:
On 2009-07-30 11:36 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
Oh, and Debian got hundreds of active developers, and I doubt they'll
be running to Shuttleworth anytime soon.
Philipp Kern wrote:
But of course it could be more. Especially contributions from Canonical
employees doing stuff in main. (Some a tad neglecting their packages
in Debian IMHO...)
Ack ack ack. I even have the impression that the Canonical employees want to
ensure that Debian gets important
Ana Guerrero wrote:
I have setup http://news.debian.net/ where I intend to publish and link
[...]
Hope you like it.
The idea is really good in general, but I - and probably a lot of other
developers - would have preferred if you'd be using ikiwiki and a public git on
alioth.
--
Bernd
On Mon, Aug 03 2009, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
Aligning our releases with RHEL rather than with Ubuntu seems more
worthwhile to me. They have similar stabilisation lengths as we did
for previous releases and they're investing a lot of work into the
kernel, from which we could profit
On Mon, Aug 03 2009, Philipp Kern wrote:
[ Please note that I'm taking all my hats off for this post, especially ]
[ debian-release ones. ]
On 2009-08-03, Sandro Tosi mo...@debian.org wrote:
What I'm wondering is: why should *we* adapt to
Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de (03/08/2009):
Ack ack ack. I even have the impression that the Canonical employees
want to ensure that Debian gets important things much much later than
Ubuntu.
Obviously false, see how (e)glibc maintainers are pushed by Ubuntu
people to get the next release ready,
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 20:07, Patrick Schoenfeldschoenf...@debian.org wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 06:40:06PM +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote:
THEY STEAL our packages
Uarg. That sentence let me discard everything sensible/intelligent
you might have said in your mail. I often read sentences
[Let's continue discussion only in -publicity, future emails, please drop
-project]
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 09:10:00PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
Ana Guerrero wrote:
I have setup http://news.debian.net/ where I intend to publish and link
[...]
Hope you like it.
The idea is really good
Hi,
I have been thinking a bit about the proposed syncing of the freeze date
with LTS recently.
I do not think it is a bad thing in general, but I do think a freeze
sync with a 10.04 LTS would be premature.
The other concern I have is lengthening our release cycle to 2 years - I
think this is
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:51:22 +0200
Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org wrote:
Hi,
Agnieszka Czajkowska has presented this morning at DebConf a very nice
redesign proposal off the Debian logo and the Debian website. She has
been working on this all the last year as part of her master thesis
in
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 09:34:39PM +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote:
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 06:40:06PM +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote:
THEY STEAL our packages
Uarg. That sentence let me discard everything sensible/intelligent
you might have said in your mail. I often read sentences like that
in the
Patrick Schoenfeld schoenf...@debian.org (03/08/2009):
That is simply not true. It might be that Ubuntu doesn't give back as
much as Debian would like.
Or “as they pretend to” [1]:
| When a bug is reported in the Debian bug tracking system and then later
| fixed in Ubuntu, the fixes are often
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 10:38:42AM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote:
Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl writes:
certainly not because I dont like (semi)naked people or whatever - but
because I dont like stereotypes, and especially not to represent an
universal OS.
I can agree to some point with
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 10:28:33PM +0200, Harald Braumann wrote:
I must say, I like the current swirl and I would miss it. But then I'm
maybe just conservative. I never understood the sense of re-branding,
re-naming, re-designing everything just for the sake of it.
I don't know, while the
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