Re: We need to define a path for Debian to climate neutrality

2022-04-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Apr 08, 2022 at 08:35:27PM +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > Hi > > it just occurred to me that despite the climate crisis about to > destroy us all we don't really have anything in place to monitor > and reduce our carbon emissions. > > I believe we need to commit ourselves to

Re: security tracker vulnerable versions

2022-03-21 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 12:33:46PM +, Zuzej, Kerstin wrote: > Dear Debian Team, > > via the security-tracker Debian provides information about the vulnerable and > fixed package versions. > However, I wanted to ask if the named vulnerable version is the version where > the vulnerability was

Re: (Lack of) GDPR compliance in Debian

2022-03-12 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 02:46:02PM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > Hi Adrian Hi Bastian, > On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 01:27:03AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: >... > > Does this also apply to highly sensitive data revealing for example > > sexual orientation or political opinions?

(Lack of) GDPR compliance in Debian

2022-03-11 Thread Adrian Bunk
This email is about the EU GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation), and any use of "data" below refers to personal data of people covered by the GDPR. Two years ago the outgoing DPL announced that our Data Protection Team has a relationship with a GDPR lawyer.[1] Out of curiousity I started

Re: Debian and GitLab Open Source Partnership

2021-07-26 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 08:23:21PM -0400, Donald Norwood wrote: >... > On 7/25/21 12:19 PM, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > > > > Out of the blue, without any more context and content, I am not sure to > > be happy with this news. > > > > To me, such a partnership is something quite stronger than

Re: DEP-16 Confidential votes

2021-04-13 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 11:41:52AM +0200, Timo Röhling wrote: >... > Also, I want to clarify that > the current protocol with hash pseudonyms for secret voting in DPL elections > is not in the Constitution either >... 4.2.6 Votes are cast by email in a manner suitable to the Secretary. > If you

Re: Debian should not engage in politics and stay neutral [was: This is not the direction that will lead to hearing each other]

2021-04-09 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 02:11:11PM -0400, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: >... > Please, let's first agree that it's not (only) about his 'personal view on > some > topics'. Most people defending RMS on this list seem to have suddenly > s/actions/views/g in their spell checker. So, just to put words

Diversity in an international project

2021-04-07 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 01:23:11PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: >... > Debian's diversity statement commits us to be welcoming to all people > regardless of who they *are*. > > It does *not* commit us to welcome all people into our community regardless > of the *idealogies they express*. > >

Re: Potential Summary: Keysigning in times of COVID-19

2020-08-14 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 09:23:58PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 09:03:00PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > >On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 11:08:01PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > >> I think the point about fake idenity documents is, it being a criminal > >> activity and make one

Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19

2020-08-10 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 12:20:53AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Adrian Bunk dijo [Fri, Aug 07, 2020 at 04:46:18PM +0300]: > > Why are you requiring key signing at all when it has no defined semantics? > > > > Many DDs check only the government issued photo

Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19

2020-08-07 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 05:54:21PM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote: >... > Technically, every DD has their own policies for signing keys, >... > It might require to check a government issued photo ID, or it might not. I thought this was the sole fixed requirement for keysigning. >... > As DAM, I would

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

2019-07-04 Thread Adrian Bunk
Adding debian-project back in my reply since this is about a public mail I wrote, and a statement by the AH team is not a private conversation. On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 01:01:14AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Adrian, Steve, > On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 07:05:54PM +0300, Adrian Bunk

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

2019-07-03 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 04:07:40PM +0200, Ulrike Uhlig wrote: > Hi! > > > On 02.07.19 22:21, Adrian Bunk wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 08:14:40AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > Every country has its own conventions, problems and solutions. > > But the

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

2019-07-03 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 07:05:08AM -0600, Jason Crain wrote: > On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 11:21:03PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 08:14:40AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > > > > > [listmaster copied in hopes they will agree with my assessment

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

2019-07-03 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Jul 03, 2019 at 01:00:42PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Adam Borowski writes ("Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them"): > > On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 11:21:03PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > People in the US are used to minority quotas in various

Re: Cultural differences and how to handle them

2019-07-02 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 11:21:03PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: >... > People should be expected to research movements that are relevant only >... People should *not* be expected to ... cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out

Cultural differences and how to handle them

2019-07-02 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 08:14:40AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > [listmaster copied in hopes they will agree with my assessment here] >... > If you are going to participate in a diversity discussion beyond a > certain point you do need to actually spend some time with google just > as you would

Re: Debian supports pridemonth?

2019-07-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 10:10:53AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Adrian Bunk writes: > > > Why should Debian honor people in the US of one specific race? > > Because they are part of our community and the gesture would be meaningful > to them. To me, this is like ask

Re: Debian supports pridemonth?

2019-07-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 11:59:36AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > > > Hispanic Heritage Month is coming in a few months (at least in the US, > > not sure about international observances). Perhaps Debian could make a > > public show of support for those of Hispanic

Re: RFC: endorse debian-mentors as entrance to our infrastructure projects

2019-06-09 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Jun 09, 2019 at 02:56:53PM +0200, Philip Hands wrote: > Adrian Bunk writes: > > On Sun, Jun 09, 2019 at 12:55:14PM +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: >... > >> [1] Let me give two examples for such "infrastructure projects": > >> */ Many in Debian

Re: RFC: endorse debian-mentors as entrance to our infrastructure projects

2019-06-09 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Jun 09, 2019 at 12:55:14PM +0200, Jonas Meurer wrote: > Hi, Hi Jonas, >... > So here's the idea we came up with: We could explicitely broaden the > scope of debian-mentors to include any questions regarding Debian > infrastructure software. > That basicly would mean to explicitely

Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money

2019-06-05 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Jun 04, 2019 at 09:24:59AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Philip Hands dijo [Tue, Jun 04, 2019 at 10:51:10AM +0200]: > > It occurs to me that we could establish some sort of hardship fund to > > make sure that someone who's current situation falls below some minimum > > that we could define,

Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money

2019-06-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Jun 01, 2019 at 09:09:26AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > >>>>> "Adrian" == Adrian Bunk writes: > > >> > >> Talking about the issues involved in paying people to do work. > >> What the options are, collecting people's c

Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money

2019-06-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 11:46:02PM -0600, Eldon Koyle wrote: > On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 5:08 PM Russ Allbery wrote: > > > > Adrian Bunk writes: > > > > > My biggest high level concern is the income side, since this is the most > > > difficult part and wil

Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money

2019-06-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 04:07:54PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Adrian Bunk writes: > > > My biggest high level concern is the income side, since this is the most > > difficult part and will likely also be the most controversial one. > > I could well be entirely wrong, b

Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money

2019-05-31 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 09:04:24PM +, Luca Filipozzi wrote: >... > When we last crunched the numbers, maintaining a 5y refresh (to stay in > warranty, etc.) would require $75k-100k/yr. We've avoided that level of > annual expenditure because we are keeping hardware longer than 5y and > we've

Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money

2019-05-31 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 05:29:42PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > >>>>> "Adrian" == Adrian Bunk writes: > > I agree that's missing. > > I don't think that is the important information needed to drive the > discussions I'm hoping someone will drive.

Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money

2019-05-31 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 07:49:25AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > > [moving a discussion from -devel to -project where it belongs] > > > "Mo" == Mo Zhou writes: > > Mo> Hi, > Mo> On 2019-05-29 08:38, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >> Use the $300,000 on our bank accounts? > > So, there

Re: Gobby notes from diversity/inclusion BOF/workshop, Cambridge

2016-11-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 02:23:35PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: >... > Robust discussion is important but the time to stop is *before*, not after, > it's become personal. Is it possible to have a 'personality moderator' role in > Debian which could be used to help calm down argument? >... "personal"

Re: What do you win by moving things to non-free?

2005-04-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 10:35:36PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: ... What do you win by moving things to non-free? You inform people that what they're using is not Free. That's a fundamental purpose of non-free: to be able to make some important but non-free pieces available to users, while

Re: Potential BTS improvements

2004-03-25 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Mar 25, 2004 at 02:04:22PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: ... [2] Instead of simply opening and closing a bug, we should track which releases the bug appeared in, and which releases it's fixed in. Some of ... Comments? Note that this requires (besides the technical infrastructure)

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-21 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 12:16:27PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 12:55:23PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 09:39:50PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: A package was built by the maintainer for one architecture. Can I be sure, that the licence allows

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-20 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 12:47:52AM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 10:47:25AM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: not changing things is effectively a removal of non-free: Some bug-free contrib and non-free packages are waiting for more than one year to enter testing since

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-19 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 01:36:44AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 11:55:56AM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: The buildds currently ignore non-free packages. How do you propose to rectify or work around that? Will passing Anthony Towns's proposed amendment automatically

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-19 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 12:55:23PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 09:39:50PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: A package was built by the maintainer for one architecture. Can I be sure, that the licence allows rebuilding it on another architecture? Not without reading

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-18 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 02:11:22PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 12:45:50PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 05:47:25PM -0500, Clint Adams wrote: To our users who were used to quality packages from accountable maintainers even if the software

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-18 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 12:28:59PM +, Colin Watson wrote: I've started occasionally building powerpc non-free packages with a private sbuild installation (I should set up buildd too, but haven't got round to it). It's relatively slow work since I need to check the copyright files first,

Re: Screw non-free.

2004-03-18 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 08:51:28PM +0100, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 12:28:59PM +, Colin Watson wrote: I've started occasionally building powerpc non-free packages with a private sbuild installation (I should set up buildd too, but haven't got

Re: Re-distributing Debian

2004-02-28 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 04:15:20PM -, Robin Imrie wrote: Dear Sir/Madam, We are about to start developing some software which will run on Linux. The product which we sell to our customers will include the hardware, os (Linux) and our software all pre-installed and ready to go. Any

Re: unauthorized upload of xfree86 4.3.0-1 to unstable

2004-02-04 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 03:31:46PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 08:55:38PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote: I think you got me wrong (quite possible, considering my language). In fact, that is what I wanted to say: he should rely on trust, and not install fixed rules

Re: unauthorized upload of xfree86 4.3.0-1 to unstable

2004-02-04 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 01:08:19PM +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: ... I did, however, state that I felt that 4.3.0-1 was by far the superior base to work from in sid, for a number of reasons (not least that propagation to sarge would put the XSF in the position of having to maintain two codebases,

Re: Processed: Re: Bug#122859: project: gnucash seems to be missing dependencies

2001-12-10 Thread Adrian Bunk
On 10 Dec 2001, John Goerzen wrote: Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After looking at the logs of the failed builds at [2] it seems that there's a build problem related with guppi. Yes. I believe this is a bug in guppi (see #122297, #123222). And before this bug in guppi is fixed

Re: Next version of Debian

2001-05-14 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, 14 May 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'd like to know when the next stable version of Debian will be ready ? Hopefully this year. Which will be the kernel of this version ? (the 2.4 ?) It will include both 2.2 and 2.4 kernels. Which version of XFree will be used ? (the 4

Re: potato and kernel 2.4

2001-03-02 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Justin Hibbits wrote: Hello, Hi Justin, Is Debian Potato kernel 2.4 ready? What updates do I need to make to It's most likely you have to upgrade at least modutils. upgrade to 2.4? See [1] for more information. Justin Hibbits cu Adrian [1]

Re: [PROPOSAL] Allowing crypto in the main archive

2001-01-11 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Marco d'Itri wrote: But is it non-US/main or non-US/non-free? non-US/main, since the license to the software itself is free. But if I don't misunderstand chapter 7 (and 8) of the GPL a program licenced under the GPL that is threatened

Re: [PROPOSAL] Allowing crypto in the main archive

2001-01-10 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote: ... Non-free programs with cryptographic program code need to be stored on the non-us server because of export restrictions of the U.S. So for the export restrictions only a non-US/non-free will be needed. Programs which use

Re: [PROPOSAL] Allowing crypto in the main archive

2001-01-10 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Wichert Akkerman wrote: ... Programs which use patented algorithms that have a restrictied license also need to be stored on non-us, since that is located in a country where it is not allowed to patent algorithms. ... Any examples of such countries? If this

Re: RFC: Changing the NM system

2000-12-17 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Christian Kurz wrote: Well, what you propose here is an an removal of a debian developer and I don't think this should be so easy as you describe it. We should be able to have a checklist and if some checks fail delete his debian account. If someone is really MIA and

Re: RFC: Changing the NM system

2000-12-16 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Christian Kurz wrote: Hi, Hi Christian, ... package this is sometimes enough to pass the Tasks Skills test (e.g. Well, do yo have some other examples too? I think one example is nice, but some others would be good to have. E.g.

Re: RFC: Changing the NM system

2000-12-16 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, 16 Dec 2000, Christian Kurz wrote: ... suggests to the NM team that he should become a Debian account. The NM team (perhaps the current NM-Committee plus other interested Debian developers) then looks critical at the work of the applicant, makes a Philosophy and Procedures

Re: RFC: Changing the NM system

2000-12-16 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, Cord Beermann wrote: No, I don't intend to change this. My point is: Someone who has a Debian account can do much harm (intentional or accidential). That's a reason why I think we should have a severe look at the work of an applicant before he gets an account. I think