Re: New policy for http://www.debian.org/consultants/

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marc Haber wrote: | On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 05:35:32PM +0100, Martin Schulze wrote: | |If you want to be listed on www.debian.org it's only fair to require |that a link to www.debian.org is somewhere on your website as well. | | | You can't force

Re: New policy for http://www.debian.org/consultants/

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Vandenabeele wrote: | On Sun, Jan 16, 2005 at 06:35:49PM +, MJ Ray wrote: | |I dislike the nearest big city idea, though. I live and |work in an area with a small city nearby and then four bigger |cities surrounding me. Most of my work comes

QA Hacking @ HEL

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, This is a cunning plot to increase interest in Quality Assurance among Debian contributors. There will be a QA Hacking event preceding Debconf5 [1] in Helsinki. Those who want to participate, please sign up here:

Re: New policy for http://www.debian.org/consultants

Tobias Toedter wrote: Hi, Hi Tobias [...] So this is my proposal, including all modifications mentioned above: Policy for Debian's consultants page 1. Mandatory contact information You must provide a working e-mail address and answer e-mails sent to you

Consultant entries that will be removed unless there is an email address provided

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi According to the new policy for the consultants page which you can find at the bottom of the consultants page [1] an email address is required to be listed. So, attached is the list of the entries that have no email address included. These

Re: locateing near DDs

Noèl Köthe wrote: Hello, Hi I remember a (python?) script on a d.o machine which returns DDs near an entered location. Anybody can help me with the machine name and maybe the script name? Yes. It is on gluck:///home/edward/findnearestdevel.py Note that it's not up to date though. Cheers

Re: consultant entries that will be removed unless they pong

Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello Thomas, Hi (though Thomas is not the only reader of [EMAIL PROTECTED]) I have already send two Messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in a delay of two month and like to know, how long does it take to be included ? I don't know what happened with your first message, but

Re: Programmieren mit Delphi

Linux benutzen währe nett wenn ich eine antwort bekommen würde und wo bekomme ich das programm her und es sollte kostelos sein danke Your question is more appropriate on debian-user@lists.debian.org or the German counterpart if you prefer... I would try freepascal... Cheers Luk - -- Luk Claes

Release Team meets in Germany

Hi The Debian Release Team will organise a meeting in Germany right before Debcamp. Andreas Barth, Adeodato Simo, Marc Brockschmidt, Luk Claes and Martin Zobel Helas will brainstorm about how the Lenny release cycle can work even better than the Etch release cycle worked. This of course includes

Re: What do Open Source Projects need?

Patrick Frank wrote: On 6/4/07, *Steve Langasek* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you a paid troll, or do you do this on a volunteer basis? If you aim to be humorous I find the situation of Sven Luther not suitable for that. In case this is your way of dealing with

Re: Bits from the DPL: DSA and a few other things

Frans Pop wrote: On Saturday 03 November 2007, Sam Hocevar wrote: \o/ DSA++ \o/ Your announcement is nice, and I'm sure it took a lot of hard work to get this far, but I have serious doubts that it is enough. Some elaboration on the way forward, including a word on that other team that is

Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel

On Thu, Nov 29, 2007 at 12:01:54PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: On Thursday 29 November 2007, Aurelien Jarno wrote: James Andrewartha a écrit : Not a buildd, but [1] notes that there's an alpha porting machine waiting for more than a year to be set up by DSA. I don't know if there's an RT

Re: No buildd redundancy for alpha/mips/mipsel

On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 08:32:40AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: http://release.debian.org/etch_arch_qualify.html lists that alpha, mips and mipsel a having buildd redundancy, but that does not seem to match reality as both only have a single buildd (alpha: goetz; mips: ball; mipsel: rem). Hmm,

Re: violence - take 2

Patrick Frank wrote: Before anybody even considers using public defacements like paddy is a troll, lets hunt him you should be aware of context. A part of the context is that the OFTC IRC-network doesn't want you on their network... Even if Debian has strong links with the IRC network, you are

Re: DEP1: Clarifying policies and workflows for Non Maintainer Uploads (NMUs)

Bas Wijnen wrote: Hi, Hi === nmudiff improvements Can you please just file a bug against devscripts and leave this out of the DEP? = the nmudiff patch is not controversial. Why include it in the DEP? * If the DEP isn't agreed upon, the patch has no reason to be included in

Re: DEP1: who should be allowed to do QA uploads ?

Ralf Treinen wrote: On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 08:50:45AM +0200, Bas Wijnen wrote: * QA upload. If you want to do an NMU, and it seems that the maintainer is not active, it is wise to check if the package is orphaned. When doing the first QA upload to an orphaned package, the maintainer

Re: The giving some time to the maintainer rule

Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 30/05/08 at 18:24 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:49:14AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Now, what we don't agree on: - I think that giving some time should only be very strongly recommended, but not mandatory. - You think that giving some

Re: DEP1: how to do an NMU

Frans Pop wrote: On Saturday 31 May 2008, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: I propose to add NMUs are usually not appropriate for team-maintained packages. Consider sending a patch to the BTS instead. to the bullet list. It really depends on the team. There are small teams where all members might become

Re: DEP1: how to do an NMU

Frans Pop wrote: On Saturday 31 May 2008, Luk Claes wrote: All members of a team becoming unresponsive is possible, agreed. But it is a hell of a lot less likely than at least one member of the team being able to respond to urgently needed changes if appropriately notified. So, why should

Re: DEP1: how to do an NMU

Julien Cristau wrote: On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 00:42:57 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 07:18:14PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: Because bugs may also have been (or seem to have been overlooked). The risk here is that the person doing the NMU thinks oh, that's an old

Re: my treatment in #debian

Rahul Jain wrote: As a regular in #debian (on OPN/freenode) for over 5 years and a contributor to the debian project, one would expect that I would be treated slightly better by the ops than random newbies. I guess if you're such a frequent user of the channel you do know that there is #debian

Re: Release Update: freeze, architecture requalification

Clint Adams wrote: On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 05:53:20PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: suites. Well we don't really want to special case i386, but currently it Then why do you? Because it's not up to us to decide how buildd maintainers take care of their job. Cheers Luk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Becoming a new contributor

MJ Ray wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a non-developer you can: - maintain packages through a sponsor Prepare the package as if you were a debian developer (see the various packaging guides on http://www.debian.org/devel/ for details - start with an Intent To Package bug report), then

Re: package maintainer contact lists and their posting policy

Jonas Meurer wrote: Hello, I discovered that [EMAIL PROTECTED] rejects any mails from non-subscribers even though the address is listed as maintainers contact address for grub packages in Debian. This topic has already been discussed in the past, and to my knowledge it has been agreed that

Re: Developer Status

Raphael Geissert wrote: Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 11547 March 1977, Raphael Geissert wrote: Debian Maintainer - They are allowed to upload their own (source) package. The allowed list of (source) packages to upload can be edited by any member of the NM committee[NMC], who will

Re: Developer Status

Raphael Geissert wrote: 2008/10/23 Luk Claes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Raphael Geissert wrote: Joerg Jaspert wrote: On 11547 March 1977, Raphael Geissert wrote: Debian Maintainer - They are allowed to upload their own (source) package. The allowed list of (source) packages

Re: Draft for lenny release announcement

Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: === h2Dedication/h2 pDebian GNU/Linux 5.0 qLenny/q to Thiemo Seufer, a Debian Developer who died on December 26th, 2008 in a tragic car accident. There seems to be a part of the sentence missing... Cheers Luk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Twittering on planet.d.o?

Frans Pop wrote: (Luk BCCed to make sure he sees the thread.) No need, I read -project. It appears that today either Luk himself or someone else added a Status feed to planet.d.o with one-liner info messages about what Luk's up to. I did that. These messages have already started to annoy

Re: Draft vote on constitutional issues

Matthew Johnson wrote: As suggested [0] I think we should clarify these issues before any other votes. As such I'd like to suggest a draft for the vote. I'm proposing several options for a couple of reasons. Several of them I would rank above further discussion, but I also want to make sure

Re: Draft vote on constitutional issues

Matthew Johnson wrote: On Sat May 02 00:32, Luk Claes wrote: PS: There is a reason why I send the mail about the definitions of the terms even if Kurt as well as you seem to ignore it. I posted a while back citing several types of vote option [0], with some examlpes. I'm maybe not using

Re: Draft vote on constitutional issues

Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 17:06 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: I think this is the core of the disagreement. I do not call it a temporary override of a foundation document; I call it a temporary practical consensus between the needs of our users and the needs of the free

Re: Draft vote on constitutional issues

Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 20:09 +0200, Luk Claes wrote: Either Social Contract section one and the DFSG prohibit the distribution of a non-free blob in the release, or they do not. This 'in the release' is bogus, I guess you mean in 'main'? Debian is only free

Re: Draft vote on constitutional issues

Matthew Johnson wrote: On Sun May 10 18:34, Luk Claes wrote: 3. Option X overrides a foundation document, possibly temporarily (?) Not possible. You can only override a decision and amending a foundation document is the previous option. What would you call the vote to ship non-free software

Re: DAM and NEW queues processing

Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 23/06/09 at 16:18 +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: NM process: - the NM process could be reduced to 5 to 10 questions choosen by the AM amongst the 50+ questions currently in the NM templates, ... This *might* work if we solve what in my opinion is the main problem

Re: [OT] aggressiveness on our mailing lists.

Charles Plessy wrote: Le Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:30:17PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : While I do not approve of ad hominem attacks on the mailing list, I think that we can go over much to the other side: We should not be overly genteel about silly ideas. You twist people words

Re: [OT] aggressiveness on our mailing lists.

Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Fri, Jul 24 2009, Luk Claes wrote: Twisting people's words is unfortunately very normal behaviour for Manoj. On Fri, Jul 24 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Or he should post less and take the time to review what he writes... (including the pass where he's supposed

Re: [OT] aggressiveness on our mailing lists.

Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Fri, Jul 24 2009, Luk Claes wrote: Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Fri, Jul 24 2009, Luk Claes wrote: Twisting people's words is unfortunately very normal behaviour for Manoj. On Fri, Jul 24 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Or he should post less and take the time

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

Frans Pop wrote: On Wednesday 29 July 2009, Meike Reichle wrote: The Debian project has decided to adopt a new policy of time-based development freezes for future releases, on a two-year cycle. Disappointing to see such an announcement without any prior discussion on d-project, d-devel or

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2009-07-29, Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl wrote: On Wednesday 29 July 2009, Meike Reichle wrote: The Debian project has decided to adopt a new policy of time-based development freezes for future releases, on a two-year cycle. Disappointing to see such an announcement

Re: Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

Sandro Tosi wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes No, the project DID NOT decide it, the release team did, and the project has to accept it; there's a lot of difference. No, the Release Team proposed a plan. The project is

Re: Re-thinking Debian membership - take #1: inactivity - status update

Sandro Tosi wrote: On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 11:56, Stefano Zacchiroliz...@debian.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 06:03:41PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: This proposal received a lot of interest back then, but in the end went nowhere. I think we should resurrect it and put into use at

Re: On cadence and collaboration

Cyril Brulebois wrote: Raphael Geissert geiss...@debian.org (05/08/2009): Like some people said during Debconf: freezing in December doesn't necessarily mean freezing the first day or even the first week of December; the 31 is still December, which means there are 30 days to decide many

Re: On cadence and collaboration

Bernd Zeimetz wrote: Luk Claes wrote: If the freeze date is well known in advance the question becomes moot unless some maintainer wants to work against the freeze AFAICS. Having a known freeze date is meant to help everyone to be able to plan better and refrain from doing high impact

Re: On cadence and collaboration

Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Cyril Brulebois wrote: Raphael Geissert geiss...@debian.org (05/08/2009): Like some people said during Debconf: freezing in December doesn't necessarily mean freezing the first day or even the first week of December; the 31 is still December, which means there are

Re: On cadence and collaboration

Bernd Zeimetz wrote: Sandro Tosi wrote: what can happen is that he prepare a rough solution, sent to debian in a sense hey, take it, I've done my work, it's an ugly hack but I have no time to prepare an elegant solution; Now I got to go, I have another 1000 things to do. I'm not sure it

Re: The Python mess in Debian

Bernd Zeimetz wrote: To come back to Debian Luk Claes wrote: Hmm, AFAICT python2.6 did not really happen in Debian yet because Mathias is trying to not continue with the existing hacks that have major issues when upgrading and wants to have a clean solution. The only hack

Re: Switching the default startup method

Martin Wuertele wrote: Hi Steve! * Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org [2009-08-24 09:19]: So far, the only bugs that have been highlighted in this thread appear to be bugs that happen when trying to remove insserv. If there aren't any problems with the new system, why do we need to support

Re: Switching the default startup method

Martin Wuertele wrote: Hi Steve! * Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org [2009-08-24 10:03]: The main thing I know about file-rc is that it's a corner case that further breaks upgrade handling when packages need to renumber their symlinks in /etc/rc?.d. I know embedded is often used as a

Re: Switching the default startup method

Bernd Zeimetz wrote: Raphael Geissert wrote: #475478 insserv: uninstallation fails horribly if an init script has been removed. [...] #538959 needs actually to be worked on. The current state is not how it should be. (which you later said it should be #511753) These two only seem to occur

Re: Switching the default startup method

Alexander Wirt wrote: Raphael Hertzog schrieb am Monday, den 24. August 2009: *snip* So please point us to bugs related to breakages on upgrades (there have been some I know, but I think Petter dealt with them correctly) if you want to use that argument to not switch to insserv by

Re: Switching the default startup method

Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 03:34:51PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2009, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: With dependency based ordering, you just state the dependencies and you let it figure out the order. There are advantages to dependency-based boot systems, sure;

Re: Debian Maintainers Keyring changes

Nico Golde wrote: Hi, * Debian FTP Masters ftpmas...@ftp-master.debian.org [2009-09-06 23:13]: The following changes to the debian-maintainers keyring have just been activated: dog...@pps.jussieu.fr Removed key: 521B0E56C8AD98A189B9C56886BCABFF1C00C790 li...@ict.ac.cn Full

Re: Debian money

Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2009-09-09, Steve McIntyre lea...@debian.org wrote: 1 New hardware / equipment a The DSA team have a wishlist of new hardware they'd like, along with a set of donated machines that need configuring and/or shipping. As far as I'm concerned, so long as the

Re: squeeze release cycle?

Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Tue, 10 Nov 2009, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: Sure, if most DDs have just took that mail as a proposal that they can safely ignore, the release team should probably be more precise, but I doubt the substance will be anything else than what we have now. (I also duly

Re: Invite to join the Release Team

Clint Adams wrote: [Adding and M-F-T-ing -project] On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:04:58AM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: I want to point out that Luk's mail was not in any way discussed in the release team. I think it is horrible. I welcome everyone to critize the release team. I would

I'm resigning as Release Manager

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi It's time to stop thinking I would be able to keep working as Release Manager in this climate, I hereby resign as Release Manager. Cheers Luk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla -

Overview of Debian's financial flows

Hi Here is an overview of the most important financial flows of money hold on Debian's behalf this year up to May 31st. January: SPI [0] (in USD): * donations:+ 9,849.73 * freight: - 3,372.66 * hard drives: - 1,138.35 * processing fees: -

Re: OSI affiliation

On 02/22/2012 02:09 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 09:36:28AM -0800, Russ Allbery a écrit : I do think we should, if we join, state publicly (in whatever press release we generate announcing our membership) that Debian is not adopting the OSI license review process for

Re: Planned changes to Debian Maintainer uploads

On 06/10/2012 01:57 PM, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: We plan to instead implement an interface where developers upload a signed command file to ftp-master to grant upload permissions instead, similar to dcut. This could end up looking similar to this: Good idea! We will also drop the check

Re: Code of Conduct violations handling process

On 09/03/2014 07:21 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com writes: Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org wrote: How do you suppose we keep the atmosphere from devolving back to the poisonous flame-fest days, and enforce various codes of conduct policies? I have

Re: Let's Stop Getting Torn Apart by Disagreement: Concerns about the Technical Committee

+1 On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Russ" == Russ Allbery writes: > > Russ> Martin Steigerwald writes: > >> Russ Allbery - 28.10.17, 16:13: > > >>> There wasn't *anything* "left out" of that