Bug#1040001: Role of tibble? (Was: Bug#1040001: Seeking advise how to proceed with the transition / move R stack to testing)

2023-07-13 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Graham, On 13 July 2023 at 18:59, Graham Inggs wrote: | I believe the attached patch should do the trick. It's basically | Paul's list from message #210, plus r-cran-interval and | r-cran-maldiquant. I've also used a << relationship against the | versions in unstable, and appended a tilde at

Bug#1040001: Role of tibble? (Was: Bug#1040001: Seeking advise how to proceed with the transition / move R stack to testing)

2023-07-13 Thread Graham Inggs
Hi Dirk On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 at 16:25, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > Sounds good, and thanks for the assist! I should be able to provide a pretty > quick turn-around. I believe the attached patch should do the trick. It's basically Paul's list from message #210, plus r-cran-interval and

Bug#1040001: Role of tibble? (Was: Bug#1040001: Seeking advise how to proceed with the transition / move R stack to testing)

2023-07-13 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Hi Graham, On 13 July 2023 at 11:14, Graham Inggs wrote: | On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 at 19:07, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: | > On 12 July 2023 at 19:47, Paul Gevers wrote: | > | Yes, you only need to carry the Breaks until in the next release. So | > | every Breaks that's present in the r-base package

Bug#1040001: Role of tibble? (Was: Bug#1040001: Seeking advise how to proceed with the transition / move R stack to testing)

2023-07-13 Thread Graham Inggs
Hi Dirk On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 at 19:07, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > On 12 July 2023 at 19:47, Paul Gevers wrote: > | On 12-07-2023 16:02, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > | > I can add the Breaks as a 'best of the worse alternative'. And, I > presume, I > | > can remove the existing four-year breaks?

Bug#1040001: Role of tibble? (Was: Bug#1040001: Seeking advise how to proceed with the transition / move R stack to testing)

2023-07-12 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Hi Paul, On 12 July 2023 at 19:47, Paul Gevers wrote: | On 12-07-2023 16:02, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: | > I can add the Breaks as a 'best of the worse alternative'. And, I presume, I | > can remove the existing four-year breaks? [1] | | Yes, you only need to carry the Breaks until in the next

Bug#1040001: Role of tibble? (Was: Bug#1040001: Seeking advise how to proceed with the transition / move R stack to testing)

2023-07-12 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi, On 12-07-2023 16:02, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: I can add the Breaks as a 'best of the worse alternative'. And, I presume, I can remove the existing four-year breaks? [1] Yes, you only need to carry the Breaks until in the next release. So every Breaks that's present in the r-base package

Bug#1040001: Role of tibble? (Was: Bug#1040001: Seeking advise how to proceed with the transition / move R stack to testing)

2023-07-12 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Hi Paul, On 11 July 2023 at 20:36, Paul Gevers wrote: | On 11-07-2023 02:43, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: | I'm totally on board for technical excellence, although I think we have | different things in mind when we say that. | | In Debian, with more QA than we ever had before, we're finding a

Bug#1040001: Role of tibble? (Was: Bug#1040001: Seeking advise how to proceed with the transition / move R stack to testing)

2023-07-11 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi Dirk, On 11-07-2023 02:43, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: I still have hopes that we can let technical excellence rule and not require blunt instruments such as forced recompilation. I'm totally on board for technical excellence, although I think we have different things in mind when we say

Bug#1040001: Role of tibble? (Was: Bug#1040001: Seeking advise how to proceed with the transition / move R stack to testing)

2023-07-10 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 10 July 2023 at 19:43, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: | Someone simply didn't update our Debian package, so it lacks this change and | fingers point at r-base when the fault, if there is one, is to let our | package slip behind a compilation and code standard established at CRAN for | the R 4.3.0

Bug#1040001: Role of tibble? (Was: Bug#1040001: Seeking advise how to proceed with the transition / move R stack to testing)

2023-07-10 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Paul, Here is a case in point from looking at the current excluses list (which is by now indeed a little shorter). One package that jumps out is r-cran-maldiquant. We are at version 1.22, with Debian build 1.22-1. But one second at the CRAN site and the page for the package shows that it is

Bug#1040001: Role of tibble? (Was: Bug#1040001: Seeking advise how to proceed with the transition / move R stack to testing)

2023-07-10 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi Dirk, On 09-07-2023 21:09, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: So this is where R 4.3.[01] will possibly break with some older packages. But the fix is simple because when R 4.3.0 came out all packages at CRAN complied. We need to have current packages that correspond to the R 4.3.0 standard. (If one

Bug#1040001: Role of tibble? (Was: Bug#1040001: Seeking advise how to proceed with the transition / move R stack to testing)

2023-07-09 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi, On 09-07-2023 21:09, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: | I don't understand this then. For several packages we're seeing failures | in testing even if we only use r-base from unstable and everything else | from testing to run the test. They pass with a rebuild r-cran-fnn and/or | a rebuild and

Bug#1040001: Role of tibble? (Was: Bug#1040001: Seeking advise how to proceed with the transition / move R stack to testing)

2023-07-09 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Hi Paul, On 9 July 2023 at 20:11, Paul Gevers wrote: | On 09-07-2023 18:41, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: | > On 9 July 2023 at 17:40, Paul Gevers wrote: | > | Did we already discuss that r-cran-ps also seems to be impacted by the | > | r-base change of the symbols thingy, as can be seen in

Bug#1040001: Role of tibble? (Was: Bug#1040001: Seeking advise how to proceed with the transition / move R stack to testing)

2023-07-09 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi Dirk, Thanks. On 09-07-2023 18:41, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: On 9 July 2023 at 17:40, Paul Gevers wrote: | Did we already discuss that r-cran-ps also seems to be impacted by the | r-base change of the symbols thingy, as can be seen in r-cran-xopen [1]. Correct me if I am wrong but the

Bug#1040001: Role of tibble? (Was: Bug#1040001: Seeking advise how to proceed with the transition / move R stack to testing)

2023-07-09 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 9 July 2023 at 11:41, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: | For spacetime and stars I suspect (based on past experience) possible | interaction from the underlying graphics libraries. Absent-minded typing error: "geospatial", of course. Not "graphics". Dirk -- dirk.eddelbuettel.com | @eddelbuettel

Bug#1040001: Role of tibble? (Was: Bug#1040001: Seeking advise how to proceed with the transition / move R stack to testing)

2023-07-09 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Paul, On 9 July 2023 at 17:40, Paul Gevers wrote: | Did we already discuss that r-cran-ps also seems to be impacted by the | r-base change of the symbols thingy, as can be seen in r-cran-xopen [1]. Correct me if I am wrong but the "symbols thingy" was not a change in R 4.2.* to R 4.3.*. It

Bug#1040001: Role of tibble? (Was: Bug#1040001: Seeking advise how to proceed with the transition / move R stack to testing)

2023-07-09 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi, On 09-07-2023 16:20, Andreas Tille wrote: I'm working my through the list and the ppc64el ci workers have a bit of backlog; we're getting somewhere, but I'm think I'm still also seeing different failure modes than the graphics engine, tibble and dplyr. I admit the only chance I personally

Bug#1040001: Role of tibble? (Was: Bug#1040001: Seeking advise how to proceed with the transition / move R stack to testing)

2023-07-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Sat, Jul 08, 2023 at 10:35:17PM +0200 schrieb Paul Gevers: > Indeed, I think the pattern is that if we test in testing, with r-cran from > unstable and r-cran-tibble from testing it fails, but with r-cran from > unstable and r-cran-tibble from unstable, it works. > > I'm working my through the

Bug#1040001: Role of tibble? (Was: Bug#1040001: Seeking advise how to proceed with the transition / move R stack to testing)

2023-07-08 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi, On 06-07-2023 21:18, Andreas Tille wrote: Am Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 08:28:45PM +0200 schrieb Paul Gevers: On 06-07-2023 19:08, Paul Gevers wrote: I'm seeing in several tests where things seem to work when r-cran-tibble from unstable

Bug#1040001: Role of tibble? (Was: Bug#1040001: Seeking advise how to proceed with the transition / move R stack to testing)

2023-07-06 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, Am Thu, Jul 06, 2023 at 08:28:45PM +0200 schrieb Paul Gevers: > On 06-07-2023 19:08, Paul Gevers wrote: > > Yes, we'll take care of that where it looks sane to do so (examples of > > that are r-cran-epi); I'll manually schedule the "combined" tests, such > > that they disappear from the