OT (was Re: Debian Vs RedHat)

2002-01-10 Thread nate
quote who=Dimitri Maziuk You are more right than you think: every time I run into new *nix suckage, all I need to do is remember the time when I worked in Winders shops, and I immediately start feeling better. Microsoft Helps!(tm) yeah me too. about 3 years ago i quit a job at a company

xterm / rxvt question about metakeys

2002-01-10 Thread Raúl Alexis Betancort Santana
I don't know if this is the right place to ask for, but I try, I apolollize if I'm asking on the wrong place. I'm triying to run an old DOS app thought dosemu inside a rxvt term, all of this using vnc (viewer are WinX machines and Debian Sid ones), but I have one problem.. First of all

Re: Play VCD on computer

2002-01-10 Thread dman
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 03:37:38PM +1100, Steve Kieu wrote: | | | Yep -- xine. Works great thought the picture is a | bit small, but | don't use esd for sound (very choppy when I tried | it). (I should also | mention that I only tried it once on one vcd) | | I use mplayer. Very

Re: Exim Adding Sender Header

2002-01-10 Thread dman
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 05:58:28AM +, Pete Ryland wrote: | On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 11:25:57PM -0500, dman wrote: | On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 07:13:13PM -0600, Benjamin Pharr wrote: | | When I send e-mail from my Debian box, Exim is adding a Sender header on | | the way out. | | You're not

Re: I get ^M in the mail headers.

2002-01-10 Thread dman
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 04:55:33PM +0100, Preben Randhol wrote: | Suddenly yesterday (I think it was) I get the mail headers with a | trailing ^M. | like this: | |Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 16:04:27 +0100^M |From: Somebody [EMAIL PROTECTED]^M |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Something

Re: RFC: Beginner's vim tutorial

2002-01-10 Thread dman
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 02:35:44PM -0500, Jesse Goerz wrote: | I just wrote a beginner's vim tutorial over at | http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/text_editing/vim.html Is this a complete rewrite of Romain's Vi Intro to be vim-specific? Quite a while back I sent Romain a patch to his document to

Re: xterm and the backspace key, the saga continues.

2002-01-10 Thread Peter De Wachter
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 12:38:26PM -0500, Andy Spiegl wrote: Hi Sander, thanks for this thread. I had the same problem! And had it before, too. It really seems to be a never ending story. :-( Only that I had my xterm set to xterm-debian as I thought it's supposed to be. When did debian

Re: exim in cron - why for dialup system?

2002-01-10 Thread Shaul Karl
Hi, Since I have a dial-up system to my isp for email collection and delivery why does cron have an entry for exim? It runs whenever I dial up and connect? Should I remove this entry? -- Ian Balchin http://www.imaginet.co.za/fables This machine is running Debian GNU/Linux ...

Re: Package Repository

2002-01-10 Thread csj
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 11:32:10 -0600 Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 11:41:45PM -0600, Adam Majer wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 12:49:53AM +, Nicholas Avenell wrote: Okay, A simple question, for which a simple answer would be appreciated: I am looking

Why netscape menu item runs mozilla

2002-01-10 Thread Bill Wohler
The Gnome Internet/Netscape menu item is set to run gnome-moz-remote which in turn runs Mozilla. This actually seems like a bug to me; otherwise, why have separate Netscape and Mozilla menu items? Is this really a bug? If so, in which package should I report it? Is there a way to set

Re: any good LaTeX books/docs recommended to beginners?

2002-01-10 Thread Paul Huygen
Andrew Nesbit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (about suitable kooks for LaTex): the Lamport one is a bit terse (more like an overview/reference) Well, I must say, that I couldn't disagree more. I think that the Lamport book is very well written, with amusing texts in the examples, about gnus, gnats and

Re: RFC: Beginner's vim tutorial

2002-01-10 Thread Peter De Wachter
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 02:35:44PM -0500, Jesse Goerz wrote: I just wrote a beginner's vim tutorial over at http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/text_editing/vim.html I would appreciate it if the vim guru's would take a look at it and let me know if I've made any errors or have any suggestions.

Re: Package Repository

2002-01-10 Thread Shaul Karl
Okay, A simple question, for which a simple answer would be appreciated: I am looking for a simple, step by set guide to turning a directory full of .deb files into something I can access with a sources.list entry. In this case, /var/cache/apt/archives/. it's currently set up as an nfs

icons in kmail

2002-01-10 Thread jeff
random bit... kmail is not showing it's toolbar icons anymore... any ideas? tia -jeff -- Q: Why do people who live near Niagara Falls have flat foreheads? A: Because every morning they wake up thinking What *is* that noise? Oh, right, *of course*!

Re: segfault on one debian, but not on the other ?

2002-01-10 Thread Shaul Karl
Hi ! I have problems compiling running a program on one of my debian/testing systems. I have two machines: 1) Eddie, a not-very-up-to-date woody machine (Athlon) with new libc6 2) Zaphod, a very old woody P100 system. Last dist-upgrade was in september, I think... The program is

Re: mail server

2002-01-10 Thread Willi Dyck
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 05:39:31PM -0800, Paul A. Thomas did this all over the keyboard: I would like to put a REALLY small email server up at work using Debian ( I have a RH box I've put together but I like ... the feel of this list / what it says about Debian vs what I've encountered with RH

Re: icons in kmail

2002-01-10 Thread Robert L. Harris
Neither is konquror. Last update to kde probably broke the images. Thus spake jeff ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): random bit... kmail is not showing it's toolbar icons anymore... any ideas? tia -jeff -- Q:Why do people who live near Niagara Falls have flat foreheads? A:

Re: Swap not starting

2002-01-10 Thread Shaul Karl
I have a quad-cpu machine running a 2.2.19 kernel with the following lines in /etc/fstab: /dev/sda7 noneswapsw,pri=10 0 0 /dev/sdb7 noneswapsw,pri=10 0 0 but it doesn't start either swap partition until explicitly

Re: pkg scripts/dependency issues

2002-01-10 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* 'cduck' Chris Grierson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: ... i think you misunderstood my intention. i wasn't trying to veil a complaint, rather ascertain the proper way to mass-install a large list of packages w/o encountering the problem of not packages install various files/links/dirs

Re: Unhappy ntpd

2002-01-10 Thread Shaul Karl
I logged in this morning to discover syslog full of ntpd[179]: recvfrom() fd=6: Connection refused entries. This server is configured to reference four time sources. Is there any way to determine which one is refusing connections? (Other than remove one from ntp.conf, wait to see if the

Re: Shutdown process and Upgrade

2002-01-10 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Hi Ian, Is it OK to type 'reboot' in a console in X (such as Konsole)? No, it's not. This has the same effect as hitting ctrl-alt-del on the first terminal: It sends all process the TERM signal and then the KILL signal, executes shutdown scripts and then reboots. Most important thing to

Re: xterm and the backspace key, the saga continues.

2002-01-10 Thread Andy Spiegl
Hi Peter, 'xterm' and 'xterm-debian' are supposed to be the same. You can test if they actually are with: infocmp xterm xterm-debian Interesting. This test really doesn't show me any differences, but it does make a difference whether I put XTerm*TermName:xterm-debian or this

Re: xinetd /etc/host.deny ALL:PARANOID

2002-01-10 Thread Sam Varghese
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 03:41:37PM +0100, Davi Leal wrote: Is It safe to delete the ALL:PARANOID line in /etc/hosts.deny to avoid the below messages in /var/log/syslog? Jan 22 12:13:46 excalibur xinetd[254]: warning: /etc/hosts.deny, line 15: can't verify hostname:

Re: strange behavior, comments

2002-01-10 Thread James Cameron
Darrell, Since woody, I use gdmconfig to configure gdm ... very easy compared to previous versions. Still, knowing what to do to run wmaker as your session isn't trivial. Sounds like your power bump caused corruption of file permissions. I've seen that a bit. Reinstalling the gdm package may

Re: /var/cache/apt/archives

2002-01-10 Thread Mike Kuhar
What you say is correct. But with that logic, one can't complain because their apt cache grows to tremendous size. -mk On Thu, 2002-01-10 at 11:22, Craig Dickson wrote: Mike Kuhar wrote: If you do 'apt-get autoclean', this removes package files that can no longer be downloaded, and

X11 Mouse Config

2002-01-10 Thread Don Meyer
Okay, my first dumb question. Has X installed and working fine, updated some packages, one of which was gpm as I recall. Now, mouse not working. Then, ran xf86config and X won't start at all. Sigh. Which program set up X originally? It was something friendlier than xf86config. Yes, I need

Minor problem on install - Where should I report.

2002-01-10 Thread lybrandnute
Hello, I was just installing Debian Testing (aka, Woody), and I ran into some install issues. I tried to figure out from www.debian.org where I should submit the issue, but I was unable to parse all of the lists and figure out the destination. Can someone please tell me where to report the

Re: /var/cache/apt/archives

2002-01-10 Thread Craig Dickson
Mike Kuhar wrote: What you say is correct. But with that logic, one can't complain because their apt cache grows to tremendous size. -mk Sure you can. Keep the most recent N versions of each package you use (adjusting N for the desired maximum size of /var/cache/apt/archives and/or the

Evolution

2002-01-10 Thread Chris Woods
Is anyone using this? Is there a way to import calendar information? This is my only hangup. Chris. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

problems with todays's php4 dist-upgrade from debian stable

2002-01-10 Thread Darxus
I just did an apt-get dist-upgrade on a debian stable box, and it installed the following packages: php4-mysql_4.0.3pl1-0potato2_i386.deb php4_4.0.3pl1-0potato2_i386.deb libgtop1_1.0.6-1.1_i386.deb It asked me if I wanted to run the apache configure program now, I said yes. When it was done,

PHP command line?

2002-01-10 Thread Matthew Daubenspeck
Is there a way to install PHP easily for debian potato so it can be used through the command line? Example: http://www.e-gineer.com/instructions/install-php3x-scripting-on-redhat5x.phtml

Re: Screensaver while gdm is runing?

2002-01-10 Thread Tim Moss
Apparently, on Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 09:45:33AM -0500, Stan Brown wrote: What's the trick to geting xscreensaver to run, whicle gdm is displaying alogin prompt? I added to /etc/X11/gdm/Postsession, the following /usr/X11R6/bin/screensaver -display $DISPLAY -no-splash -timeout 5 0nice 10

Re: X too big; login double; fetchmail kaputt

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach nori heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.10.0024 +0100]: cool. now i have no x at all. i tried reinstalling that, and installing xserver-mach64 ... hm. blank screen. how to proceed? mh. X is a bitch at times... maybe it's worth just removing all x packages and starting from

Re: X11 Mouse Config

2002-01-10 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 04:41:56PM -0600, Don Meyer wrote: Okay, my first dumb question. Has X installed and working fine, updated some packages, one of which was gpm as I recall. Now, mouse not working. Then, ran xf86config and X won't start at all. Sigh. gpm and X may be in conflict on

Re: PHP command line?

2002-01-10 Thread James Cameron
Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: Is there a way to install PHP easily for debian potato so it can be used through the command line? Yes, install the php4-cgi or php3-cgi packages. Use 'dpkg --listfiles php4-cgi' once installed to find the binary -- James Cameron

Locale problems

2002-01-10 Thread Nori Heikkinen
[broken off from previous thread, because it's really a seperate one now:] on Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:37:23AM +0100, Mark Lamers insinuated: Op wo 09-01-2002, om 02:39 schreef Nori Heikkinen: and again i run up against unset locales: perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning:

Re: xinetd /etc/host.deny ALL:PARANOID

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Sam Varghese [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.10.2323 +0100]: Why would you want to remove your first line of defence? Do you want the whole world to have access to the box in question? that doesn't mean allowing access to the whole world! If a host does not match its IP, your system

ext2 - reiserfs

2002-01-10 Thread Mirek Dobsicek
Hi, I've backuped my /var which is on /dev/hda5 (ext2) then init 1 umount /dev/hda5 mkfs -t reiserfs /dev/hda5 mount /dev/hda5 /var cp /backup /var reboot During booting I got message that Invalid super blok on /dev/hda5 (ex2fs). Try run fsck .. and it sent me to 1 runlevel. I was

Re: Debian Vs RedHat

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.10.1834 +0100]: Does the RPM build process have an equivalent of dpkg-shlibdeps? only since recently... but in general, RPM and DEB are really functionally equivalent. RPM *is* a good packaging system, it's other things which make .rpm based

Re: Debian Vs RedHat

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach David B Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.10.1854 +0100]: BTW, I see where you're heading. Yes, obviously, a great build environment will significantly ease a maintainer's burdens. But I still say that it's on the shoulders of the maintainer :) but Debian's FHS-accordance is really

Re: Debian Vs RedHat

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Dimitri Maziuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.10.2042 +0100]: www.microsoft.com might be able to help ;^ You are more right than you think: every time I run into new *nix suckage, all I need to do is remember the time when I worked in Winders shops, and I immediately start feeling

Re: ext2 - reiserfs

2002-01-10 Thread James Cameron
Mirek Dobsicek wrote: I was thinking that /etc/mtab is a fixed file ... but it looks it is beeing written during starting the system It is written to by mount or umount to maintain a list of mounted filesystems. What I need to do, to succesfully convert my /dev/hda5 reiserfs, which file

Re: Permissions of /var/spool/texmf/ls-R

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.10.1933 +0100]: Shouldn't the permissions on /var/spool/texmf/ls-R be writable by all users of LaTeX? if you are up for some local DoS, sure. as in, empty the file and it'll be DoS for all other latex users... mktextfm:

Re: ext2 - reiserfs

2002-01-10 Thread Mirek Dobsicek
What I need to do, to succesfully convert my /dev/hda5 reiserfs, which file need by informed about that change? You didn't mention changing /etc/fstab ... try that? Ohhh, sure, I'm totaly stupid, I changed in my mind /etc/fstab with /etc/mtab Than U very much, Mirek

problem installing debian

2002-01-10 Thread David S
Hi, I recently got a copy of debian 2.2r4 through one of the official vendors on the debian website and i'm having trouble accessing the x window system this is the error message i get when initx or startx command is used: _exec of usr/bin/x11/xf86_NONE failed_x11transSocketUNIXConnect

Re: Debian Vs RedHat

2002-01-10 Thread Alec
On Thursday 10 January 2002 06:19 pm, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.10.1834 +0100]: Does the RPM build process have an equivalent of dpkg-shlibdeps? only since recently... but in general, RPM and DEB are really functionally equivalent. RPM *is* a

Re: X too big; login double; fetchmail kaputt

2002-01-10 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Fri, 11 Jan 2002 12:04:50AM +0100, marTin insinuated: mh. X is a bitch at times... maybe it's worth just removing all x packages and starting from scratch... or would you like me to give it a shot? that's what i'm trying. just no luck so far. i haven't had much time to spend on this

Re: OT (was Re: Debian Vs RedHat)

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach nate [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.10.2049 +0100]: i hear win2000 and XP improves on some issues, but after 8 years of using MS stuff(DOS3.x - NT4) i left and never looked back. i gave them a fair chance, i don't think they deserve another. excuse me? did you *ever* productively

Re: ext2 - reiserfs

2002-01-10 Thread Matthew Dalton
Mirek Dobsicek wrote: I have 2 questions: I was thinking that /etc/mtab is a fixed file ... but it looks it is beeing written during starting the system /etc/fstab is the file you're after.

Re: RFC: Beginner's vim tutorial

2002-01-10 Thread Jesse Goerz
On Thursday 10 January 2002 15:49, dman wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 02:35:44PM -0500, Jesse Goerz wrote: | I just wrote a beginner's vim tutorial over at | http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/text_editing/vim.html Is this a complete rewrite of Romain's Vi Intro to be vim-specific? Quite a

Re: X too big; login double; fetchmail kaputt

2002-01-10 Thread Nori Heikkinen
sorry to respond to my own post, but it's fixed. see below. thanks, brenda! on Tue, 08 Jan 2002 10:22:34PM -0500, Brenda J. Butler insinuated: To see if this will fix something, try at a shell prompt: export LC_ALL=en_US export LANGUAGE=en and run one of those commands that keeps

Re: xinetd /etc/host.deny ALL:PARANOID

2002-01-10 Thread Sam Varghese
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 12:11:13AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: If a host does not match its IP, your system SHOULD deny it access. i actually disagree. (a) these days, many run their own DNS even though the IP belongs to someone else and is only leased to a home user. (b) you wouldn't

Re: xinetd /etc/host.deny ALL:PARANOID

2002-01-10 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 12:11:13AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: it's not really a security measure anymore, i find. feel free to disagree... Disabling PARANOID mode only means that you shouldn't trust the logged hostnames, because thay may be faked, no? Marcin -- Marcin Owsiany [EMAIL

cvs no space left on device

2002-01-10 Thread Kendall Shaw
Hi, This is not really a debian question, but I'll ask anyway. I ran out of disk space while retriving files with cvs. Since then I've freed up 2.5 Gigs worth of space, but cvs still says no space left on device. I have only one e2fs partition mounted as root, and it has only about 20% of it's

Re: pkg scripts/dependency issues

2002-01-10 Thread 'cduck' Chris Grierson
On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: * 'cduck' Chris Grierson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: ... i think you misunderstood my intention. i wasn't trying to veil a complaint, rather ascertain the proper way to mass-install a large list of packages w/o encountering the

squirrelmail: apache/php and register_globals

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
i know that this should probably go upstream or to the apache mailing list(s), but spare me the time and trouble, i consider it more important to report it at least somewhere... and maybe this is just debian-related... i upgraded to squirrelmail 1.2.2 with the .deb package from the webpage[1]

Re: Debian Vs RedHat

2002-01-10 Thread Stuart Krivis
--On Friday, January 11, 2002 00:19:57 +0100 martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also sprach Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.10.1834 +0100]: Does the RPM build process have an equivalent of dpkg-shlibdeps? only since recently... but in general, RPM and DEB are really

Re: any good LaTeX books/docs recommended to beginners?

2002-01-10 Thread Michael Dickey
On Thursday 10 January 2002 04:32 pm, Paul Huygen wrote: Andrew Nesbit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (about suitable kooks for LaTex): the Lamport one is a bit terse (more like an overview/reference) Well, I must say, that I couldn't disagree more. I think that the Lamport book is very well

Upgrading kernel-image-2.2.19-ide

2002-01-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, While doing an apt-get upgrade, one of the packages it wants to upgrade is 2.2.19-4potato.5. The new package is kernel-image-2.2.19-ide_2.2.19-12_i386.deb. During the upgrade, I get some scary verbiage that seems to be a bit contradictory.

Re: ext2 - reiserfs

2002-01-10 Thread David B Harris
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 00:13:03 +0100 Mirek Dobsicek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During booting I got message that Invalid super blok on /dev/hda5 (ex2fs). Try run fsck .. and it sent me to 1 runlevel. You forgot to change /etc/fstab ;) --

Re: X too big; login double; fetchmail kaputt

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach nori heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.11.0037 +0100]: that's what i'm trying. just no luck so far. i haven't had much time to spend on this yet, though, and have no idea how to proceed. so when i get a second i'll go google it out and see what i can do from there. fair

Re: xinetd /etc/host.deny ALL:PARANOID

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Sam Varghese [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.11.0053 +0100]: i can only speak from my limited experience. i have found these measures to work, therefore i practice them. of course, one would agree to disagree. i don't want to come across as the wannabe-guru, but what exactly do you

Re: Debian-Progeny

2002-01-10 Thread David Bellows
On Thursday 10 January 2002 06:15 am, S.Ghosh wrote: Hello, Could someone please explain how to set up an external modem under Debian-Progeny 1.0. Also how is the printer setup carried out under Progeny. The external modem worked well under RedHat 7.0 7.1. So I am hoping it will under

Re: Debian Vs RedHat

2002-01-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 10 January 2002 05:37 pm, Alec wrote: [snip] If RPM is good, why did Debian project feel compelled to create dpkg? dpkg was created back in the early days. Either RPM wasn't written yet, or wasn't the most popular packager. - --

Re: xinetd /etc/host.deny ALL:PARANOID

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Marcin Owsiany [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.11.0058 +0100]: it's not really a security measure anymore, i find. feel free to disagree... Disabling PARANOID mode only means that you shouldn't trust the logged hostnames, because thay may be faked, no? kinda. it also tries to act

Re: Debian Vs RedHat

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Alec [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.11.0037 +0100]: If RPM is good, why did Debian project feel compelled to create dpkg? how long before DEB did RPM exist? (i don't know the answer. all i know about this is from having participated (and read) discussions on what should be the LSB

scp question (scp and exit shell)

2002-01-10 Thread Mike Egglestone
Hi all, I would like to copy a huge file from one server to another. but because it takes a long time, I would like to exit my remote shell that I used to login and run the scp command. I have tried with thesymbol after the command but no go. ex. scp /home/user/file.txt

Re: X too big; login double; fetchmail kaputt

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach nori heikkinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.11.0045 +0100]: If the command is fixed, then you have to find a way to run the file that contains LC_ALL when you start a new shell (probably run it from your $HOME/.bashrc, or put the commands directly in your $HOME/.bashrc, or put

Re: *****SPAM***** Re: any good LaTeX books/docs recommended to beginners?

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
this wouldn't go to the list if i could reach michael directly. ([EMAIL PROTECTED], kinda cute, huh?) anyway, michael, you better configure your mail user agent appropriately (with a full email address, because you aren't: also sprach Michael Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.10.1320 +0100]:

Re: Debian Vs RedHat

2002-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Stuart Krivis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.11.0121 +0100]: I've never felt RPM was as good as DEB. RPM-based distros just don't seem to be as maintainable over the long haul. which i attribute to the FHS-accordance of Debian. really. Personally, I have issues with a binary-based

Re: X too big; login double; fetchmail kaputt

2002-01-10 Thread dman
Earlier Martin said regarding configuring X : | not really. maybe i am misremembering. but it's highly prefered over | editing XF86Config by hand. unless you want to read the manpages, | web, and spend some time to get it working. it *is* possible, they | say... I'll say it's possible :-).

Re: cvs no space left on device

2002-01-10 Thread Brenda J. Butler
This is not really a debian question, but I'll ask anyway. I ran out of disk space while retriving files with cvs. Since then I've freed up 2.5 Gigs worth of space, but cvs still says no space left on device. I have only one e2fs partition mounted as root, and it has only about 20% of it's

Re: pkg scripts/dependency issues

2002-01-10 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* 'cduck' Chris Grierson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: ... 'dpkg *.deb' will install packages in the correct order *so as to satisfy dependencies*, but that isn't the issue. the issue is whether the 'preinst' scripts should be checking for installation status of a package by means of

Re: Debian Vs RedHat

2002-01-10 Thread nate
quote who=Stuart Krivis I've never felt RPM was as good as DEB. RPM-based distros just don't seem to be as maintainable over the long haul. Personally, I have issues with a binary-based distribution. I am enamored of the *BSD ports system and buildworld. :-) while ports serve a certain

Re: xinetd /etc/host.deny ALL:PARANOID

2002-01-10 Thread Chris Wagner
Well, the rationale behind this is as you touched on, preventing spoofed address attacks. A paranoid lookup essentially verifies that the connecting system is a known legit host. In effect you're using your DNS system as another level of authentication. Say somebody wants to covertly log on or

Re: Debian Vs RedHat

2002-01-10 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* Alec ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: On Thursday 10 January 2002 06:19 pm, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.01.10.1834 +0100]: Does the RPM build process have an equivalent of dpkg-shlibdeps? only since recently... but in general, RPM and DEB

Re: [redhat] VNC ...

2002-01-10 Thread Paul A. Thomas
Hi Arun: Go to Google, type in VNC.. never mind g.. the first match is in Great Britan http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ I believe it's an ATT site which offers it for free. Paul

Re: scp question (scp and exit shell)

2002-01-10 Thread nate
quote who=Mike Egglestone Hi all, I would like to copy a huge file from one server to another. but because it takes a long time, I would like to exit my remote shell that I used to login and run the scp command. I have tried with thesymbol after the command but no go. ex. scp

Re: scp question (scp and exit shell)

2002-01-10 Thread john
Mike Egglestone wrote: Hi all, I would like to copy a huge file from one server to another. but because it takes a long time, I would like to exit my remote shell that I used to login and run the scp command. I have tried with thesymbol after the command but no go. ex. scp

Re: problem installing debian

2002-01-10 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 11:31:41PM -, David S wrote: :Hi, I recently got a copy of debian 2.2r4 through one of the official vendors on the debian website and i'm having trouble accessing the x window system : :this is the error message i get when initx or startx command is used: : :_exec of

Re: Play VCD on computer

2002-01-10 Thread D.
--- dman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 03:37:38PM +1100, Steve Kieu wrote: | | | Yep -- xine. Works great thought the picture is a | bit small, but | don't use esd for sound (very choppy when I tried | it). (I should also | mention that I only tried it

Re: printing stopped working--any ideas?

2002-01-10 Thread Luke Call
Please post the output of lsmod, the end several lines of /var/log/lpr.log, /etc/printcap, and /var/log/cups/error_log. This may give some indication of what's going on. Steve Here's the lsmod output: Module Size Used by vmmon 18436 0

Re: Upgrading kernel-image-2.2.19-ide

2002-01-10 Thread L Vogtmann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 10 January 2002 04:18 pm, Ron Johnson wrote: snip During the upgrade, I get some scary verbiage that seems to be a bit contradictory. If I'm just doing a straight minor-point-level upgrade, and have no extra kernel modules, is an

Re: printing stopped working--any ideas?

2002-01-10 Thread Luke Call
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 08:57:03PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have one of these printers. The only way I ever got it working was using gimp-print(?) and CUPS. lpr and all of that wouldn't work. Also with this setup the quality was awful. It would only do greyscale. When I hooked

Re: printing stopped working--any ideas?

2002-01-10 Thread Luke Call
On Wednesday 09 January 2002 20:14, Stephen Gran wrote: Thus spake Luke Call: When I say nothing happens, I mean that no print jobs begin, the printer (which works under Win2k, sigh) makes no sound, there is nothing just a question: did it ever work under anything besides w2k ? Odds are

Re: scp question (scp and exit shell)

2002-01-10 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 04:34:34PM -0800, Mike Egglestone wrote: :Hi all, : :I would like to copy a huge file from one server to another. :but because it takes a long time, I would like to exit :my remote shell that I used to login and run the scp command. : :I have tried with thesymbol after

Re: X too big; login double; fetchmail kaputt

2002-01-10 Thread Brenda J. Butler
On Fri, Jan 11, 2002 at 01:35:24AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: it's not in .zshrc/.bashrc on my systems, and i don't have the problem. sure, you can stop here, but these things aren't in /etc/skel and thus it can't be the right way to fix it. out of curiosity (if you even want to pursue

Re: squirrelmail: apache/php and register_globals

2002-01-10 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 11 Jan 2002, martin f krafft wrote: the php.ini setting works perfectly, *unless* you try to override it, in which case it will *always* and *automatically*, without warning, and without futher ado, turn itself off by the time that the first actual script is parsed. this should not be,

Re: icons in kmail

2002-01-10 Thread Bob Underwood
There's an issue with libpng compatibility. (Take a look at debian-kde archives for more details.) It's been fixed now in unstable (thank you daniel and chris for your quick work on this). I have had unstable kde for quite a while and it works quite well. If there are no RC bugs in the new

Re: exim in cron - why for dialup system?

2002-01-10 Thread Brenda J. Butler
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 11:22:15PM +0200, Shaul Karl wrote: Since I have a dial-up system to my isp for email collection and delivery why does cron have an entry for exim? It runs whenever I dial up and connect? Should I remove this entry? Are you referring to /etc/cron.daily/exim?

Yow, Madduck!

2002-01-10 Thread Brenda J. Butler
Martin, I don't have a domain. My isp has one but I don't. My FQHN is seal (and it's not visible from the internet anyway). I send mail from my mail client to local exim for delivery next time I dial up. exim rewrites the reply-to, from, etc to have the achilles.net, but I guess your software

Re: Yow, Madduck!

2002-01-10 Thread dman
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 07:39:16PM -0500, Brenda J. Butler wrote: | On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 07:06:59PM -0500, Mail Delivery System wrote: |[EMAIL PROTECTED]: | SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: | host mail.madduck.net [195.226.187.154]: | 504 seal:

Is anyone using woody in a production environment?

2002-01-10 Thread john
Hello everyone! We have come to a point where we would like to use some software that is currently in woody on a production server that is currently running potato. Now we have a few approaches as I see it: 1) We install the packages from upstream source into /usr/local/ OK, we're talking

Scheduled downtime for murphy.debian.org(lists.debian.org)

2002-01-10 Thread Adam Heath
Brainfood is scheduling downtime for murphy.debian.org(which is also lists.debian.org, and runs all the mailing lists), to do a disk upgrade. This is just the addition of a new drive, with no copying of the existing data. We expect downtime to be minimal. The time for this maintenance is

Wrong release file in Potato 2.2r4????

2002-01-10 Thread Penguin
In my Debian Potato 2.2r4 CD set, the release file that is in /dists/potato/ (I think... but the main 'stable' directory with the supposed 2.2r4 release packages) says that it is 2.2r3 released in July 2001 or thereabouts as opposed to 2.2r4 released in Nov/Dec 2001. Is this correct, I mean,

Re: Play VCD on computer

2002-01-10 Thread Joshua Thorin Messer
Thus spake dman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Interestingly enough, an apt-cache search for vcd only shows xine. From the MPlayer website (http://www.mplayerhq.hu): Precompiled packages It is NOT POSSIBLE to make fast and working binary packages ofmplayer now, because most of options are still

Re: is it possible to downgrade from woody

2002-01-10 Thread Jerome Acks Jr
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 05:45:04PM +0300, Nantenaina Tianarivo Ulrich wrote: I was playing with mt test machin. and I've tried to upgrade my debian on this machine from a potato to a woody. But after the upgrade,I found out that some of my application don't work anymore. As, we are many to

Re: Playing WMA audio streams

2002-01-10 Thread Joshua Thorin Messer
Thus spake Sean 'Shaleh' Perry ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On 09-Jan-2002 Coen De Roover wrote: Hi, Is there a program that's capable of playing continuous WMA audio streams ? None I have seen, it is a proprietary microsoft api. MPlayer's documentation *claims* it can play .wma files.

Re: hdparm and old system

2002-01-10 Thread Adam Majer
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 02:01:02PM +, J.A.Serralheiro wrote: It's a 16450 UART [or something like that]. Hence 1 byte FIFO instead of 16 byte FIFO. If the interrupts were unmasked properly then I wouldn't need to get new hardware... As I said, it works in 2.2.x series... -

[impossible?] libc6 upgrade/install issue

2002-01-10 Thread
Hi, Recently i ran into quite a lot of trouble with my Debian Gnu/Linux system. I can't exactly recall what triggered the mayhem but i think it had something to do with setting up an unstable entry in sources.list After correcting this i found a number of stable-packages to be in the obsolote

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