Re: et.al., (was: Dependencies et al, was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread David Wright
On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 18:42:38 (+0100), Brian wrote: > On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 15:09:09 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > [...] > > > But how do Debian list servers know ? > > A good question. How are my mails matched with my subscribed address > so that I am awarded the accolade of LDOSUBSCRIBER?

Re: et.al., (was: Dependencies et al, was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread David Wright
On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 15:09:09 (+0200), Thomas Schmitt wrote: > i wrote: > > > To my best knowledge, "X-Spam-Status: ... tests=...,LDOSUBSCRIBER,..." > > > says that the "From:" address of the mail is subscribed. > > Brian wrote: > > Are you sure it is the From: and not the envelope From? My

Microphone actif ?

2019-10-07 Thread Pierre ESTREM
Bonjour, Je voudrais manipuler la sortie de "pactl list sources" pour en extraire le nom du microphone que j'utilise. Mais celui-ci qu'il soit allumé (ou pas) a pour état "SUSPENDED" (tout comme l'entrée Line-in sur laquelle rien n'est branché). Quelle commande pourrait-elle me dire quel

Re: Problems with Buster and Bluetooth

2019-10-07 Thread deloptes
David Parker wrote: > # hciconfig -a > hci0: Type: Primary  Bus: USB > BD Address: 5C:F3:70:8C:B7:98  ACL MTU: 1021:8  SCO MTU: 64:1 > UP RUNNING PSCAN > RX bytes:62062 acl:40 sco:0 events:3178 errors:0 > TX bytes:499936 acl:776 sco:0 commands:1088 errors:38 > Features: 0xbf 0xfe 0xcf 0xfe 0xdb

Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-07 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 07/10/2019 à 09:42, Joe a écrit : On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 23:26:32 +0200 Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 06/10/2019 à 22:45, Beco a écrit : Now the system can boot both systems ok. But to choose which one you want, you need to enter the BIOS, change legacy to UEFI, and vice-versa, then you can

Re: iptables why rejects this output?

2019-10-07 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 10:55:53PM +0200, BAGI Ákos wrote: > you mean I should make the firewall settings public? > good idea :) If your security depends on obscurity, you do not have a security in the first place. Your INPUT rules can be probed. Your FORWARD rules aren't relevant

Re: [OT] Dependencies et al

2019-10-07 Thread Étienne Mollier
(Warning: irrelevancy ahead.) On 07/10/2019 21.29, Brian wrote: > I am not overly bothered whether my answers are read. That is up to the > OP. For all I know, all my mails are deleted on sight by all users on > this list. :) Wrong, there is at least one that hasn't. QED ;) -- Étienne Mollier

Re: 3d acceleration broken out of the box on h/w that has been supported correctly in the past.

2019-10-07 Thread Étienne Mollier
On 07/10/2019 11.08, DAVID HAND wrote: > This is present in Buster and Stretch - can't remember precisely when it > broke. > > Don't know which package maintainer is responsible, have searched a  lot and > found many similar sounding issues yet not been able to fix it myself, nor > find active

Re: iptables why rejects this output?

2019-10-07 Thread BAGI Ákos
you mean I should make the firewall settings public? good idea :) 2019.10.05 12:32 keltezéssel, deloptes írta: BAGI Ákos wrote: How can I enable it with iptables? (I have lot of iptables rules). Is it ok, to enable  it? without the iptables rules it is hard to tell - post the rules

Re: vnc 64bit-32bitor Buster to Bullseye

2019-10-07 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 03:01:43PM -0500, Dennis Wicks wrote: > Using tightvncserver on the 32-bit side and xtightvncviewer on the > 64-bit side I have managed to get a connection, but no desktop > manager. The viewer shows me a window but it is just gray, actually > very small black

vnc 64bit-32bitor Buster to Bullseye

2019-10-07 Thread Dennis Wicks
Greetings; I have a vanilla 64-bit install of Buster which claims to be Debian 10.1. I am trying to vnc from there to my old 32-bit machine which is running Bullseye (don't know what it claims to be). Using tightvncserver on the 32-bit side and xtightvncviewer on the 64-bit side I have

Re: Dependencies et al

2019-10-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 20:49:08 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Brian wrote: > > I am still wondering what use it is to "check for the existence of > > that LDOSUBSCRIBER value of X-Spam-Status e-mail header *before* > > replying to e-mail". How does it affect the actions one takes? > >

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 10:05:30PM +0300, Reco wrote: On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 02:45:29PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 09:17:21PM +0300, Reco wrote: > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 01:54:17PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > I don't agree that responding to a troll will lead to a

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 14:45:29 -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 09:17:21PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 01:54:17PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > I don't agree that responding to a troll will lead to a beneficial > > > outcome. > > > > You're entitled

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Reco
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 02:45:29PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 09:17:21PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 01:54:17PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > I don't agree that responding to a troll will lead to a beneficial > > > outcome. > > > > You're

Re: batterie sous openbox et compression video sous linux ?

2019-10-07 Thread Francois Meyer
Le 06/10/2019 à 23:17, benoit...@ouvaton.org a écrit : 1) BATTERIE SOUS OPENBOX Je souhaiterais savoir comment afficher simplement (à la manière de "xclock") le niveau de ma batterie (j'utilise de temps en temps à la main la commade "acpi -b" mais il faut y penser !). Peut être un petit

Re: Dependencies et al

2019-10-07 Thread John Hasler
Michael Stone writes: > Are there any real users with valid use cases for which this as an > issue? "I told it to remove xyzzy and it removed all of Gnome!" (or some other metapackage) is a common complaint. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 21:17:21 +0300, Reco wrote: > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 01:54:17PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 04:39:56PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > No, I got you first time. Rather it's my response deviated elsewhere. > > > > > > I see nothing in those three

Re: Dependencies et al

2019-10-07 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Brian wrote: > I am still wondering what use it is to "check for the existence of > that LDOSUBSCRIBER value of X-Spam-Status e-mail header *before* > replying to e-mail". How does it affect the actions one takes? As said, i use it as guideline whether to add a Cc: for the thread starter. If

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 09:17:21PM +0300, Reco wrote: On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 01:54:17PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: I don't agree that responding to a troll will lead to a beneficial outcome. You're entitled to your option, of course. For context, the most recent message from that account

Re: et.al.

2019-10-07 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > But how do Debian list servers know [that Brian is subscribed] ? > > [...] is it because the first mail hop added "envelope-from" to > > its Received: header ? Brian wrote: > I can alter that too, and still be designated LDOSUBSCRIBER. Hmm. I see you tinkered with the first

Re: Sorl

2019-10-07 Thread Antoni Villalonga
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 04:21:54PM +0200, Joan Cervan wrote: > Hola, > > En una web que porto, amb drupal, les cerques son molt lentes, i la > sol·lució natural és deixar de banda la cerca en BBDD i usar Apache > Sorl. Hola, Com a alternativa pots provar sphinx. És un motor full-text search.

lets encrypt certificaten

2019-10-07 Thread lists
Hallo, Ik gebruik inmiddels alweer jaren de certificaten van Lets Encrypt voor vanalles en nog wat. Heel erg geweldig. Doe dat altijd al met de client https://github.com/Neilpang/acme.sh Echt super: zeer lightweight, helemaal in bash. Ik gebruik daarbij afhankelijk van de machine de 'apache

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Reco
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 01:54:17PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 04:39:56PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > No, I got you first time. Rather it's my response deviated elsewhere. > > > > I see nothing in those three packages that would qualify as "xyzzy". > > Alternatives? No. Mime

Re: Dependencies et al

2019-10-07 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 06:34:20PM +0200, Linux-Fan wrote: > Citing from that: > | 6.7.10. Best practices for meta-packages > | A meta-package is a mostly empty package that makes it easy to install a > | coherent set of packages that can evolve over time. It achieves this by > |

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 10:56:30 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 16:03:21 (+0300), Reco wrote: [...] > > Please show a e-mail from the list subscriber that does not have > > aforementioned attribute, then we'll have something to talk about. > > Dead easy. Just configure your

Re: New Linux User needs some guidance

2019-10-07 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, lwhona...@gmail.com wrote: > I was under the impression, if I copied the dvd image to a usb stick, > I could boot from the stick and start the install. This is true. You have to put it as image onto the raw USB stick device. https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb proposes for GNU/Linux

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 04:39:56PM +0300, Reco wrote: No, I got you first time. Rather it's my response deviated elsewhere. I see nothing in those three packages that would qualify as "xyzzy". Alternatives? No. Mime types registration? No. About the only common thing about all three packages is

Re: Default Debian install harassed me

2019-10-07 Thread John Hasler
Patrick Bartek writes: > They are each their own Hell. Package management software solved, > more or less, one type, but created another beast as the OP has > discovered and that we each deal with in our own ways. Such is life > . . . and software The OP is in a hell of his own making (which is

Re: et.al., (was: Dependencies et al, was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 15:09:09 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: [...] > But how do Debian list servers know ? A good question. How are my mails matched with my subscribed address so that I am awarded the accolade of LDOSUBSCRIBER? On the basis that my past statements about the SMTP protocol

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Reco
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 10:56:30AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 16:03:21 (+0300), Reco wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 01:32:59PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 14:59:31 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 12:50:28PM +0100, Brian wrote: > >

Re: et.al., (was: Dependencies et al, was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 15:09:09 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i wrote: > > > To my best knowledge, "X-Spam-Status: ... tests=...,LDOSUBSCRIBER,..." > > > says that the "From:" address of the mail is subscribed. > > Brian wrote: > > Are you sure it is the From: and not the envelope From?

Re: New Linux User needs some guidance

2019-10-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 07 October 2019 12:40:00 Dan Purgert wrote: > wrote: > > Greetings All, > > > > Briefly, I am a new Linux want-to-be. I am totally blind, retired > > computer specialist with most of my work experience in the Windows > > world. I do have a passing knowledge of Unix. > > > > I am

Re: Default Debian install harassed me

2019-10-07 Thread goleo .
On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 4:41 PM Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 03:46:53AM +0300, goleo . wrote: > >Liar, you are the one being abusive. I am being rude for a right reason. > > Presumably you posted to debian-user@ in the hope of getting help. > With this attitude I can assure

Re: New Linux User needs some guidance

2019-10-07 Thread Dan Ritter
lwhona...@gmail.com wrote: > > Briefly, I am a new Linux want-to-be. I am totally blind, retired computer > specialist with most of my work experience in the Windows world. I do have > a passing knowledge of Unix. Good news: you're not the only blind Linux user on this list. If it helps, the

Re: New Linux User needs some guidance

2019-10-07 Thread A . Söldner
Am 07.10.2019 um 18:26 schrieb lwhona...@gmail.com: Greetings All, Briefly, I am a new Linux want-to-be.  I am totally blind, retired computer specialist with most of my work experience in the Windows world.  I do have a passing knowledge of Unix. I am attempting my first install of Debian

Re: Default Debian install harassed me

2019-10-07 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 07 Oct 2019 10:01:31 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > Patrick Bartek writes: > > Welcome to the Wonderful Hell of Dependencies. > > That's not dependency hell. Dependency hell is what we had before > package management systems. I assure you that occasionally permitting > the installation

Re: New Linux User needs some guidance

2019-10-07 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 wrote: > > Greetings All, > > Briefly, I am a new Linux want-to-be. I am totally blind, retired > computer specialist with most of my work experience in the Windows > world. I do have a passing knowledge of Unix. > > I am attempting my first

Re: New Linux User needs some guidance

2019-10-07 Thread john doe
On 10/7/2019 6:26 PM, lwhona...@gmail.com wrote: > Greetings All, > > > > Briefly, I am a new Linux want-to-be. I am totally blind, retired computer > specialist with most of my work experience in the Windows world. I do have > a passing knowledge of Unix. > > > > I am attempting my first

Re: Dependencies et al

2019-10-07 Thread Linux-Fan
John Hasler writes: Reco writes: > The parent thread shows that at least some of the users are > confused by metapackages. I think that most users are totally ignorant of the nature or even the existence of metapackages. As far as they are concerned the Lxqt package *is* Lxqt and there is no

New Linux User needs some guidance

2019-10-07 Thread lwhonaker
Greetings All, Briefly, I am a new Linux want-to-be. I am totally blind, retired computer specialist with most of my work experience in the Windows world. I do have a passing knowledge of Unix. I am attempting my first install of Debian and I must be missing something from the Install

Re: Dependencies et al

2019-10-07 Thread John Hasler
Reco writes: > The parent thread shows that at least some of the users are > confused by metapackages. I think that most users are totally ignorant of the nature or even the existence of metapackages. As far as they are concerned the Lxqt package *is* Lxqt and there is no way to get Lxqt other

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread David Wright
On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 16:03:21 (+0300), Reco wrote: > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 01:32:59PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 14:59:31 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 12:50:28PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 14:11:15 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > > On

Re: Default Debian install harassed me

2019-10-07 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 John Hasler wrote: > Patrick Bartek writes: >> Welcome to the Wonderful Hell of Dependencies. > > That's not dependency hell. Dependency hell is what we had before > package management systems. I assure you that occasionally permitting > the

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Reco wrote: > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 01:08:04PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: >> Reco wrote: I don't think anything needs to be done here -- the whole idea of (meta)packages is that you give up some choice for the benefits of not having

Re: checking ssh server is running

2019-10-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 04:00:43PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > Are all [systemd] services daemons ? No. Systemd services have "types". Some of these types (simple, forking) can reasonably be called daemons, because they run a program, or suite of programs, which is expected to stick around for a

Re: Python 3 as default

2019-10-07 Thread Sven Hartge
Glenn Holmer wrote: > Is it safe to set Python 3 as the default in Buster, or are there > system programs that still need to run under Python 2? Setting python3 as the default python interpreter is not supported in Buster. Doing so will break your system. Besides: /usr/bin/python is defined as

Re: Default Debian install harassed me

2019-10-07 Thread John Hasler
Patrick Bartek writes: > Welcome to the Wonderful Hell of Dependencies. That's not dependency hell. Dependency hell is what we had before package management systems. I assure you that occasionally permitting the installation of a program you don't need is preferable by far. -- John Hasler

Re: checking ssh server is running

2019-10-07 Thread mick crane
On 2019-10-07 14:28, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 08:42:51PM +0100, mick crane wrote: after checking through /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server basic use is systemctl start sshd.service systemctl stop sshd.service systemctl restart sshd.service systemctl enable sshd.service (

Python 3 as default

2019-10-07 Thread Glenn Holmer
Is it safe to set Python 3 as the default in Buster, or are there system programs that still need to run under Python 2? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."

Sorl

2019-10-07 Thread Joan Cervan
Hola, En una web que porto, amb drupal, les cerques son molt lentes, i la sol·lució natural és deixar de banda la cerca en BBDD i usar Apache Sorl. D'entrada pensava simplement agafar un servidor (VPS o cloud), amb 8Gb de RAM, 4 o 8 processadors i 100 o 200Gb de disc SSD, bàsicament perquè em

Re: Debian 10 Installation -Boot

2019-10-07 Thread David Wright
On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 14:20:17 (+1030), Paul Dabrowski wrote: > Folks, > I have been using Debian 9 in a multi-boot setup for quite some time with a > great deal of satisfaction. The basic set up was: > Windows 7 (for the infrequent use by other family members) > Debian 9 (living on /dev/sda5;

[resolu] Re: [testing] ecran noir apres mise a jour

2019-10-07 Thread Gaëtan Perrier
Le samedi 05 octobre 2019 à 13:33 +0200, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Je viens de faire la mise à jour du jour de testing et quand j'ouvre ma > session > gnome, j'obtiens un écran noir avec juste le curseur de la souris ... > Ça dit quelque chose à quelqu'un ? > > Gaëtan gnome-shell

Re: Email based attack on University

2019-10-07 Thread tomas
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 02:46:54PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 12:10:14PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >I'm pretty confident that they'll work. Firstly, Jonathan > >knows his stuff. > > that's generous, thank you! C'mon. Thank *you* for your work on Debian.

Re: Email based attack on University

2019-10-07 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 12:10:14PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: I'm pretty confident that they'll work. Firstly, Jonathan knows his stuff. that's generous, thank you! --  Jonathan Dowland ✎ j...@dow.land  https://jmtd.net

Re: Email based attack on University

2019-10-07 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 10:49:01AM +1100, Keith Bainbridge wrote: Well I think the bash line means that the bash command uses ~/whatever as data (which it could do without the x switch?) like any program does with data files. I wasn't aware of this. I read later the the -c is not necessary,

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 16:03:21 +0300, Reco wrote: > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 01:32:59PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 14:59:31 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 12:50:28PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 14:11:15 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > > >

Re: Default Debian install harassed me

2019-10-07 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 03:46:53AM +0300, goleo . wrote: Liar, you are the one being abusive. I am being rude for a right reason. Presumably you posted to debian-user@ in the hope of getting help. With this attitude I can assure you help will be in short supply. --  Jonathan Dowland ✎

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Reco
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 01:08:04PM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 11:56:33AM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > >> > 3) Synaptic did not provide a user a meaningful choice. > >> > [...] > >> > I'm

Re: checking ssh server is running

2019-10-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 08:42:51PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > after checking through /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server > basic use is > systemctl start sshd.service > systemctl stop sshd.service > systemctl restart sshd.service > systemctl enable sshd.service ( should start sshd at boot ) >

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 11:56:33AM -, Dan Purgert wrote: >> > 3) Synaptic did not provide a user a meaningful choice. >> > [...] >> > I'm not saying that Synaptic should be transformed to aptitude (which is >> >

Re: et.al., (was: Dependencies et al, was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > To my best knowledge, "X-Spam-Status: ... tests=...,LDOSUBSCRIBER,..." > > says that the "From:" address of the mail is subscribed. Brian wrote: > Are you sure it is the From: and not the envelope From? My From: is > not subscribed. Interesting observation. So the address by

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Reco
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 01:32:59PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 14:59:31 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 12:50:28PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 14:11:15 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 11:39:05AM +0100, Brian wrote: > >

Re: Email based attack on University

2019-10-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 12:14:28PM -, Curt wrote: > On 2019-10-05, wrote: > I meant > > bash -c "~/whatever" > > appears to be faulty (for one reason or another. For two reasons. First, the -c. That's been explained already. Second, the quotes around the tilde cause tilde expansion not

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Curt
On 2019-10-07, Reco wrote: > > 1) Call me old-fashioned, but posters' personalities should not matter > here, at this list. I don't see what is old-fashioned about your opinion here. I would think it were the gentilities of polite discourse that have become outmoded (as demonstrated finely by

Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-07 Thread sp007
On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 17:45:37 -0300 Beco wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have this laptop problem to solve: the original windows 10 is kept, > shrunk partition to 1TB, originally cryptographied (but now normal). > The rest was given to Linux, Debian 10: 800GB root and 8.2GB swap. > > Now the system can

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 14:59:31 +0300, Reco wrote: > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 12:50:28PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 14:11:15 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 11:39:05AM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 11:28:03 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > > >

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Reco
Hi. On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 11:56:33AM -, Dan Purgert wrote: > > 3) Synaptic did not provide a user a meaningful choice. > > [...] > > I'm not saying that Synaptic should be transformed to aptitude (which is > > famous for its multi-choice resolver), we have one aptitude already, > >

Wiemy, co jest ważne, żeby zbudować optymalną stronę WWW, sprawdź nasze warunki.

2019-10-07 Thread Agencja Kreatywna
Planujesz zmianę swojej *Strony* lub *Sklepu internetowego*? A może interesuje Cię nowy projekt? Jedno jest pewne, trafiłeś w dobre ręce. Odeślij do nas maila z informacją*TAK*, a my przygotujemy dla Ciebie bezpłatną wycenę. Nasz Doradca Klienta wytłumaczy Ci sposób działania, po czym

Zbuduj z nami stronę lub sklep internetowy, zaufaj fachowcom.

2019-10-07 Thread Agencja Interaktywna
Planujesz zmianę swojej *Strony* lub *Sklepu internetowego*? A może interesuje Cię nowy projekt? Jedno jest pewne, trafiłeś w dobre ręce. Odeślij do nas maila z informacją*Tak*, a my przygotujemy dla Ciebie bezpłatną wycenę. Nasz Doradca Klienta wytłumaczy Ci sposób działania, po czym

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 13:53:43 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Reco wrote: [...] > Brian wrote: > > The non-existence of LDOSUBSCRIBER in a mails's headers says nothing > > definite about whether the poster is subscribed to the list or reads > > list mails. > > To my best knowledge,

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Dan Purgert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Reco wrote: > Hello, list. > > It may seem a thread hijacking (and may be it is), but I feel that the > discussion of OP's problem has taken a wrong turn. Consider this a my > attempt to put in on a right track ☺. > > So I've been reading this

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Reco
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 12:50:28PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 14:11:15 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 11:39:05AM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 11:28:03 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > PS Just a friendly reminder. Please

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Reco wrote: > > 1) Call me old-fashioned, but posters' personalities should not matter > > here, at this list. [...] > > The language OP is using could definitely use some improvement indeed, It would serve the general issue of constructive discussion. > > discussing OP's personality just

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 14:11:15 +0300, Reco wrote: > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 11:39:05AM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 11:28:03 +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > PS Just a friendly reminder. Please check for the existence of that > > > LDOSUBSCRIBER value of X-Spam-Status

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Reco
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 11:39:05AM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 11:28:03 +0300, Reco wrote: > > [...] > > > PS Just a friendly reminder. Please check for the existence of that > > LDOSUBSCRIBER value of X-Spam-Status e-mail header *before* replying to > > e-mail. Unless, of

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 11:28:03 +0300, Reco wrote: [...] > PS Just a friendly reminder. Please check for the existence of that > LDOSUBSCRIBER value of X-Spam-Status e-mail header *before* replying to > e-mail. Unless, of course, you intention is *not* to reply to OP but > have your reply

3d acceleration broken out of the box on h/w that has been supported correctly in the past.

2019-10-07 Thread DAVID HAND
This is present in Buster and Stretch - can't remember precisely when it broke. Don't know which package maintainer is responsible, have searched a lot and found many similar sounding issues yet not been able to fix it myself, nor find active similar bug. Possibly one filed with

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread tomas
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 11:28:03AM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hello, list. > > It may seem a thread hijacking (and may be it is) [...] I don't feel so. Thanks for this post. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Dependencies et al (was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Reco
Hello, list. It may seem a thread hijacking (and may be it is), but I feel that the discussion of OP's problem has taken a wrong turn. Consider this a my attempt to put in on a right track ☺. So I've been reading this thread, and it got me thinking. I know, it's a somewhat strange

Re: Default Debian install harassed me

2019-10-07 Thread Joe
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 03:46:53 +0300 "goleo ." wrote: > > Liar, you are the one being abusive. I am being rude for a right > reason. > You are being rude through (being charitable) ignorance. 1. Boot the appropriate Debian netinstall medium. 2. Deselect *all* tasks when offered the choice,

Re: Dual boot: one legacy, the other uefi

2019-10-07 Thread Joe
On Sun, 6 Oct 2019 23:26:32 +0200 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 06/10/2019 à 22:45, Beco a écrit : > > > > Now the system can boot both systems ok. But to choose which one > > you want, you need to enter the BIOS, change legacy to UEFI, and > > vice-versa, then you can boot. > > Would you mind

Re: Default Debian install harassed me

2019-10-07 Thread tomas
On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 12:00:11AM +0300, goleo . wrote: [...] > This is harassment because you force me to use either > Xarchiver or Ark, you don't give me the choice to use none. Who is that "you" you keep talking about? You are aware that you are addressing the "Debian Users" mailing list?

Re: Default Debian install harassed me

2019-10-07 Thread Ansgar
Carl Fink writes: > From his writing style, I get the feeling goleo is a young teen, perhaps > someone who learned social skills in a multiplayer game online. Or a hateful older person who is afraid of this new "video game" stuff and made up his mind that playing video games makes people abusive,