Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager

On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 1:24 AM ghe2001 wrote: > > How about a /29 or so, named "here.", hosts named 2 or 3 > letter abbreviations of what you call the computers, with unroutable IPs, > DNS'ed in /etc/hosts (with shortcuts). Whatever you come up with for , ICANN can add to the gTLD namespace;

Re: 12.2: fork() causing getline() to repeat stdin endlessly

> > Try to construct a minimal reproducer, and post it here. Someone may > be able to spot the issue. The shorter and simpler you can make your reproducer, the more likely someone will be able to help. The program: // gcc -o program program.c // program < lines #include #include #include

Re: can you parse and "tail" at once? (and if you can't why not?)

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 10:13:26PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] Good points all over -- I envy your clarity. To drive home Greg's point about naming conventions a bit more: bash (in general, shells) have very little protection for mis-naming variables (you don' have to declare them, they

Re: 12.2: fork() causing getline() to repeat stdin endlessly

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 10:50:15PM -0400, tom kronmiller wrote: > I have a small program (extracted from a big program) which reads and > prints input lines using a loop of getline() calls. The real input lines > are all expected to be 52 characters long (+1 for the newline => 53), > that's what

Re: 12.2: fork() causing getline() to repeat stdin endlessly

> I have a small program (extracted from a big program) which reads and > prints input lines using a loop of getline() calls. The real input lines > are all expected to be 52 characters long (+1 for the newline => 53), > that's what my example data for the small program looks like. If there is >

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

You can also set the dns server in NetworkManager directly. ``` bash nmcli connection modify "$connection-name" ipv4.dns "$dns-servers" ``` where $connection-name is the name found in `nmcli connection` under NAME, and $dns-servers is a comma seperated list of DNS servers you want to use. If you

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager

>> This is generally true, Greg, and I get that, but every new version, >> which should just continue what works, doesn't cuz somebody moved a >> config file and last years fix doesn't work this year. And you can't >> ask for help when its not working. So YOU have to fix it based of what >> YOU

12.2: fork() causing getline() to repeat stdin endlessly

I have a small program (extracted from a big program) which reads and prints input lines using a loop of getline() calls. The real input lines are all expected to be 52 characters long (+1 for the newline => 53), that's what my example data for the small program looks like. If there is no fork()

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager

On 23/10/2023 04:43, gene heskett wrote: As I keep repeating Dan, there is not a local dns, its all a 15 entry hosts file atm. So that cannot bite /me/. It can. Some day .den TLD may be registered and chosen by a 3d printer manufacturer. It might happen that you would not be able to access

Re: can you parse and "tail" at once? (and if you can't why not?)

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023, 10:39 PM Albretch Mueller wrote: > OK, Greg's suggestion once again "made my day". > I know at some point I will have to code everything in some > programming language, but for now I will just get things done as > quickly as possible. > Also, Greg, please, I would like

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager

Gene writes: > This is generally true, Greg, and I get that, but every new version, > which should just continue what works, doesn't cuz somebody moved a > config file and last years fix doesn't work this year. And you can't > ask for help when its not working. So YOU have to fix it based of what

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager

On 10/22/23 20:48, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 08:36:53PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: What really bugs me is when the maintainers forget there are hosts file users, and do something that totally screws us up, Gene, you're being irrational again. "Hosts file only" systems have

Re: can you parse and "tail" at once? (and if you can't why not?)

On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 01:32:08AM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 10/22/23, Andy Smith wrote: > > Most of the points Greg makes to you are matters of correctness, not > > matters of taste. > > that you called "matters of correctness" may be "visual things" to > other people. this is

Re: can you parse and "tail" at once? (and if you can't why not?)

On 10/22/23, Andy Smith wrote: > So you might consider telling us what you will do next with the > suffix of each line. Now you have gone into mind reading mode. On 10/22/23, Andy Smith wrote: > Most of the points Greg makes to you are matters of correctness, not > matters of taste. that

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 08:36:53PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > What really bugs me is when the maintainers forget there are hosts file > users, and do something that totally screws us up, Gene, you're being irrational again. "Hosts file only" systems have been supported since before Debian

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On 10/22/23 18:45, John Hasler wrote: I wrote: It's for people who haven't a clue as to what a domainname or address block is. Gene writes: If that is an insult, so be it. I just meant to explain that though it is not a solution to your problem, it is a solution to a problem some other

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 How about a /29 or so, named "here.", hosts named 2 or 3 letter abbreviations of what you call the computers, with unroutable IPs, DNS'ed in /etc/hosts (with shortcuts). Works here... -- Glenn English -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version:

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

I want NetworkManager to not over write /etc/resolv.conf According to the docs if dns=none is set it will not touch /etc/resolv.conf This should work, and this does work here. If not, please do file a bug report. OpenPGP_signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On 10/22/23 18:36, Lee wrote: On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 1:18 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 11:22:06AM -0400, Lee wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't you use the example from https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf and do echo 'make_resolv_conf() { :; }' >

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager

I wrote: > It's for people who haven't a clue as to what a domainname or address > block is. Gene writes: > If that is an insult, so be it. I just meant to explain that though it is not a solution to your problem, it is a solution to a problem some other people have. -- John Hasler

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 1:18 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 11:22:06AM -0400, Lee wrote: > > Just out of curiosity, why didn't you use the example from > > https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf and do > > > > echo 'make_resolv_conf() { :; }' > > >

Re: can you parse and "tail" at once? (and if you can't why not?)

On 10/22/23 17:11, Andy Smith wrote: Hello, On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 08:50:55PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: Greg, please, I would like for you to understand that it is not my intention to upset you about what you find visually upsetting. We have talked about that before. Most of the points

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On 10/22/23 14:19, John Hasler wrote: Gene writes: Chuckle. Looks like a solution looking for a problem. You can use whatever domainname that tickles your fancy when your net is in an un-routeable address block. It's for people who haven't a clue as to what a domainname or address block is.

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm:NetworkManager

On 10/22/23 14:17, Dan Ritter wrote: gene heskett wrote: On 10/22/23 11:19, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 7:13 AM Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote: https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8375 Chuckle. Looks like a solution looking for a problem. You can use

Re: can you parse and "tail" at once? (and if you can't why not?)

Hello, On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 08:50:55PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > Greg, please, I would like for you to understand that it is not my > intention to upset you about what you find visually upsetting. We > have talked about that before. Most of the points Greg makes to you are matters of

Re: can you parse and "tail" at once? (and if you can't why not?)

OK, Greg's suggestion once again "made my day". I know at some point I will have to code everything in some programming language, but for now I will just get things done as quickly as possible. Also, Greg, please, I would like for you to understand that it is not my intention to upset you about

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 2:33 PM Dan Ritter wrote: > > gene heskett wrote: > > On 10/22/23 11:19, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 7:13 AM Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> > > > wrote: > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8375 > > > > > Chuckle. Looks like a

Re: Domain name to use on home networks

On 22 Oct 2023 13:13 -0500, from j...@sugarbit.com (John Hasler): > It's for people who haven't a clue as to what a domainname or address > block is. > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7788 RFC 8375 section 1: "Although this document makes specific reference to [RFC7788], it is not

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

gene heskett wrote: > > So please tell me again what NM is supposed to do for /me/? Nothing, You do not have a good use case for NM. NM is for laptops that connect to many different networks, primarily, and secondarily for corporate networks where many people will need IT handholding. In my

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager

gene heskett wrote: > On 10/22/23 11:19, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 7:13 AM Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> > > wrote: > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8375 > > > Chuckle. Looks like a solution looking for a problem. You can use whatever > domainname

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager

Gene writes: > Chuckle. Looks like a solution looking for a problem. You can use > whatever domainname that tickles your fancy when your net is in an > un-routeable address block. It's for people who haven't a clue as to what a domainname or address block is.

Re: A file synchronization tool that respects hardlinks

On Sun, 22 Oct 2023 17:40:43 +0300 Itay wrote: > According to wikipedia[4] the following tools are bidirectional: > FreeFileSync / NextCloud / Owncloud / SyncThing > Please -- can someone quickly tell me if they respect hardlinks? > Or recommend another tool(s) that respect hardlinks? I

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

Sent from my iPad > On Oct 22, 2023, at 1:35 PM, Andy Smith wrote: > > Hello, > >> On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 08:22:24AM -0400, Pocket wrote: >>> On 10/22/23 04:02, Max Nikulin wrote: >>> P.S. I do not see any reason to insist on NetworkManager in the case of >>> a box which role is a DNS

Re: can you parse and "tail" at once? (and if you can't why not?)

Hello, On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 04:33:12PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > After generating a file with lines of text, I have to: > 1) parse some of those lines based on a pattern I know (no regex > necessary, just a FS path) > 2) once parsed from those lines I need the last n characters only

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

Sent from my iPad > On Oct 22, 2023, at 1:18 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 11:22:06AM -0400, Lee wrote: >> Just out of curiosity, why didn't you use the example from >> https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf and do >> >> echo 'make_resolv_conf() { :; }' > >>

Re: can you parse and "tail" at once? (and if you can't why not?)

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 04:33:12PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > After generating a file with lines of text, I have to: > 1) parse some of those lines based on a pattern I know (no regex > necessary, just a FS path) > 2) once parsed from those lines I need the last n characters only > I am

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

Because the script does what the Debian installer does and runs without intervention Sent from my iPad > On Oct 22, 2023, at 12:41 PM, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 22/10/2023 19:22, Pocket wrote: >> What version of NetworkManager is installed with bullseye? >> Maybe a newer version is broken?

Re: can you parse and "tail" at once? (and if you can't why not?)

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 04:33:12PM +, Albretch Mueller wrote: > I am trying to use a one liner like: > cat "${IFL}" | grep "${DESC_DIR}" | tail -c+$_DESC_DIR > but this one liner repeats the output and the tail Brevity is not the measure of goodness. When you write a shell script, it's

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

Sent from my iPad > On Oct 22, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Tixy wrote: > > On Sat, 2023-10-21 at 17:13 -0400, Pocket wrote: >> I am just using what was installed by my scripted debian installation > > A day ago when people pointed out that Network Manager only gets > installed if you select desktop

Re: A file synchronization tool that respects hardlinks

On 22 Oct 2023 17:40 +0300, from deb...@itayf.fastmail.fm (Itay): > The sync must be bidirectional and *respect hardlinks* because many > subdirs are kept under the control of darcs[1] which by default uses > hardlinks. The sync tool I used in the past, unison[2], does not > respect hardlinks[3].

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

Sent from my iPad > On Oct 22, 2023, at 11:25 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 11:22:06AM -0400, Lee wrote: >>> On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 4:24 PM Pocket wrote: >>> >>> Ding ding ding we have a winner >> >> Just out of curiosity, why didn't you use the example from

Re: A file synchronization tool that respects hardlinks

On 22 Oct 2023 10:32 -0700, from dalgoda+deb...@gmail.com (Mike Castle): > rsync supports hardlinks. > > --hard-links, -H preserve hard links It does, but on the other hand it's very hard to wrangle rsync into doing safe bidirectional syncing. At least I didn't find a way to do that,

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

Hello, On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 08:22:24AM -0400, Pocket wrote: > On 10/22/23 04:02, Max Nikulin wrote: > > P.S. I do not see any reason to insist on NetworkManager in the case of > > a box which role is a DNS server for a local network. ifupdown should be > > sufficient. There is no need to

Re: udev creates wrong symlink from rule after upgrade to bookworm

Hi, Appears that the failure reported by Karl Schmidt occurred when two devices matched the rule. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1040445 Similar erroneous result here with only one matching device. Details below. Ideas? Thx, ... P.

Re: A file synchronization tool that respects hardlinks

rsync supports hardlinks. --hard-links, -H preserve hard links Though, in general, the purpose of something like darcs is to *provide* the syncing. mrc

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 11:22:06AM -0400, Lee wrote: > Just out of curiosity, why didn't you use the example from > https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf and do > > echo 'make_resolv_conf() { :; }' > > /etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/leave_my_resolv_conf_alone > chmod 755

Re: can you parse and "tail" at once? (and if you can't why not?)

On Sun, 22 Oct 2023 16:33:12 + Albretch Mueller wrote: > After generating a file with lines of text, I have to: > 1) parse some of those lines based on a pattern I know (no regex > necessary, just a FS path) > 2) once parsed from those lines I need the last n characters only > I am trying

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On 10/22/23 11:19, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 7:13 AM Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote: It's fairly recent (RFC 8375, May 2018) but this type of usage is pretty much exactly what home.arpa is meant for. https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8375 Chuckle.

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On 22/10/2023 19:22, Pocket wrote: What version of NetworkManager is installed with bullseye? Maybe a newer version is broken? I upgraded this VM to bookworm months ago. apt policy network-manager network-manager: Installed: 1.42.4-1 Candidate: 1.42.4-1 Version table: *** 1.42.4-1

can you parse and "tail" at once? (and if you can't why not?)

After generating a file with lines of text, I have to: 1) parse some of those lines based on a pattern I know (no regex necessary, just a FS path) 2) once parsed from those lines I need the last n characters only I am trying to use a one liner like: cat "${IFL}" | grep "${DESC_DIR}" | tail

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On 10/22/23 11:02, Henning Follmann wrote: On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 01:24:21PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 01:08:58PM -0400, Pocket wrote: On 10/21/23 12:49, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 12:23:45PM -0400, Pocket wrote: I want NetworkManager to not over

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On Sat, 2023-10-21 at 17:13 -0400, Pocket wrote: > I am just using what was installed by my scripted debian installation A day ago when people pointed out that Network Manager only gets installed if you select desktop install configuration, you denied that was true by saying "Well the default

Re: cli_ how to find_ firefox versions available in all suites

On 22/10/2023, Max Nikulin wrote: The rmadison CLI tool may query repositories that are not in sources.list. * rmadison is part of devscripts * apt install devscripts * it works like charm * uncommented testing, unstable, experimental from my sources.list [ no need now ]

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 11:25 AM wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 11:22:06AM -0400, Lee wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 4:24 PM Pocket wrote: > > > > > > Ding ding ding we have a winner > > > > Just out of curiosity, why didn't you use the example from > >

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 11:22:06AM -0400, Lee wrote: > On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 4:24 PM Pocket wrote: > > > > Ding ding ding we have a winner > > Just out of curiosity, why didn't you use the example from > https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf and do > > echo 'make_resolv_conf() { :; }' > >

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 4:24 PM Pocket wrote: > > Ding ding ding we have a winner Just out of curiosity, why didn't you use the example from https://wiki.debian.org/resolv.conf and do echo 'make_resolv_conf() { :; }' > /etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/leave_my_resolv_conf_alone chmod 755

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 7:13 AM Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote: > > On 21 Oct 2023 17:13 -0400, from poc...@columbus.rr.com (Pocket): > > Why would I register a domain name for an internal network? > > Any name will do. You could make the same argument if you just > > makeup a

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 01:24:21PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 01:08:58PM -0400, Pocket wrote: > > > > On 10/21/23 12:49, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 12:23:45PM -0400, Pocket wrote: > > > > I want NetworkManager to not over write /etc/resolv.conf >

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

Pocket wrote: > > On 10/22/23 08:32, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Pocket wrote: > > > I am just using what was installed by my scripted debian installation > > Who provided the script? You skipped the most important question. -dsr-

Re: AW: Panic again any idea

On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 12:21:53PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote: > > Good afternoon > > > Thank You > > Here is the bug report: > > https://ibb.co/1fDc8yQ > Upload Image — Free Image Hosting > Free image hosting and sharing service, upload pictures, photo host.

A file synchronization tool that respects hardlinks

Hi I have two machines for which I need to sync my home directory. The sync must be bidirectional and *respect hardlinks* because many subdirs are kept under the control of darcs[1] which by default uses hardlinks. The sync tool I used in the past, unison[2], does not respect hardlinks[3].

Re: Date time problem bookworm, fvwm....

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 01:51:41PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: [...] > Originally it did only put out text in an xterm, but then i shamelessly > exploited code from the exploitation chain xpppload <- xisdnload <- xload > to give it a histogram in ain additional separate window. Now this one

Re: Date time problem bookworm, fvwm....

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 07:50:54AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2023-10-22 at 07:24, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > I better not tell. My clock is a... shell script in a tiny Xterm > > which also shows my battery status. > > Ooo, that sounds interesting. I don't currently have a laptop, so the

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On 22 Oct 2023 08:22 -0400, from poc...@columbus.rr.com (Pocket): > What version of NetworkManager is installed with bullseye? https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/network-manager https://tracker.debian.org/network-manager -- Michael Kjörling  https://michael.kjorling.se

Re: example.org and other RFC 2606 domains; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On 22 Oct 2023 08:42 -0400, from poc...@columbus.rr.com (Pocket): > I get that, I have used example.org for more than 20 years and at the time I > began using it things were different. It has been reserved for its current purpose at least since June 1999 (that's the publication date of RFC 2606),

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

Pocket wrote: >The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) also currently has the >following second level domain names reserved which can be used as >examples. > > example.com > example.net > example.org > > Which I take it that you can use them for any

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On 10/22/23 08:36, mick.crane wrote: On 2023-10-22 13:22, Pocket wrote: I would normally not use NetworkManager on a server system either, but in this case NetworkManager is installed on all the bookworm installation so in this case I choose to work with it instead of removing it. It maybe

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On 10/22/23 08:32, Dan Ritter wrote: Pocket wrote: The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) also currently has the following second level domain names reserved which can be used as examples. example.com example.net example.org Which I take it

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On 10/22/23 01:24, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 03:29:40PM -0400, Pocket wrote: On 10/21/23 15:02, Stefan Monnier wrote: I agree about that on most machines, but the machine in question has bind running so nameserver needs to be set to 127.0.0.1 and the domain to

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On 2023-10-22 13:22, Pocket wrote: I would normally not use NetworkManager on a server system either, but in this case NetworkManager is installed on all the bookworm installation so in this case I choose to work with it instead of removing it. It maybe comes with the desktop thing. With

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On 10/22/23 07:13, Michael Kjörling wrote: On 21 Oct 2023 17:13 -0400, from poc...@columbus.rr.com (Pocket): Why would I register a domain name for an internal network? Any name will do. You could make the same argument if you just makeup a domain to use as it could already be registered or

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On 10/22/23 04:02, Max Nikulin wrote: On 22/10/2023 00:24, Greg Wooledge wrote: If you're asking us to tell you how to *make NetWorkManager behave* then you might be frustrated. Most of the people on this mailing list don't use it. There are some who actively despise it, and go out of their

Re: Date time problem bookworm, fvwm....

On 2023-10-22 at 07:24, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > I better not tell. My clock is a... shell script in a tiny Xterm > which also shows my battery status. Ooo, that sounds interesting. I don't currently have a laptop, so the battery-status part wouldn't currently apply, but this sounds like

Re: Date time problem bookworm, fvwm....

Hi, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > My clock is a... shell script in a tiny Xterm which > also shows my battery status. My digital clock with date display is a C program which mainly watches the network traffic. It even has an own date format ("A0" = 2000, now is "C3") which has an odd history

Re: Default DNS lookup command?

On 22/10/23 04:56, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 05:35:21PM +0200, Reiner Buehl wrote: is there a DNS lookup command that is installed by default on any Debian getent hosts NAME getent ahostsv4 NAME That said, you get much finer control from dedicated tools. That is a

Re: Date time problem bookworm, fvwm....

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 11:16:25AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Charlie wrote: > > I removed the clock from the > > FVWM task bar and Gkrellm now dis[pays the right time. So a fix > > of sorts with which I can live. > > Congrats. :)) > > > > being a bit long in > > the tooth to start

Re: Domain name to use on home networks; was: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On 21 Oct 2023 17:13 -0400, from poc...@columbus.rr.com (Pocket): > Why would I register a domain name for an internal network? > Any name will do. You could make the same argument if you just > makeup a domain to use as it could already be registered or someone > my register it in the future. >

Re: Date time problem bookworm, fvwm....

Hi, Charlie wrote: > I removed the clock from the > FVWM task bar and Gkrellm now dis[pays the right time. So a fix > of sorts with which I can live. Congrats. :)) > being a bit long in > the tooth to start relearning another window manager. I'm using fvwm since the last century. It's

Re: Date time problem bookworm, fvwm....

On Sun, 22 Oct 2023 10:13:59 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > Hi, > > Charlie wrote: > > The date on that system is one day in advance and one hour late. Not > > terrible, > > However after a short period 100% of one of the CPU cores is used, > > noisy running, and top -c shows this as the user:

Re: Date time problem bookworm, fvwm....

Hi, Charlie wrote: > The date on that system is one day in advance and one hour late. Not > terrible, > However after a short period 100% of one of the CPU cores is used, > noisy running, and top -c shows this as the user: > /usr/libexe/fvwm2/2.7.0/FvwmScript 17 4 none 0 8 FvwmScript DateTime

Re: Bookworm: NetworkManager

On 22/10/2023 00:24, Greg Wooledge wrote: If you're asking us to tell you how to *make NetWorkManager behave* then you might be frustrated. Most of the people on this mailing list don't use it. There are some who actively despise it, and go out of their way to ensure it's never installed. I

Date time problem bookworm, fvwm....

Hello All, Have a a Dell Vostro laptop: Bookworm up to date and upgraded operating system to that state. Using FVWM window manager. The date on that system is one day in advance and one hour late. Not terrible, However after a short period 100% of one of the