Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-24 Thread Christoph K.
Hi Marco, thanks for taking the time to reply. Am Tue, 22 Aug 2023 20:24:39 +0200 schrieb Marco Möller : > Having had the same problem to solve for myself I ended up to use: > Noto sans for all my GUI > Liberation Mono for coding The "Noto Sans" has an almost identical

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-22 Thread Marco Möller
On 19.08.23 21:19, Christoph K. wrote: Could you please recommend a "suitable" sans-serif font that a) (...) b) (...) c) (...) d) (...) Thanks, Christoph Having had the same problem to solve for myself I ended up to use: Noto sans for all my GUI Liberation Mono for coding

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-22 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 09:19:48PM +0200, Christoph K. wrote: Could you please recommend a "suitable" sans-serif font that A lot of your criteria are rather subjective. For packaged fonts you might look at "hack" (https://source-foundry.github.io/Hack/font-specimen.html) or "go"

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-21 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On Mon Aug 21 16:23:25 2023 "Christoph K." wrote: > Am Sun, 20 Aug 2023 21:41:04 + > schrieb "Russell L. Harris" : > >> On the 3, 5, 6, and 9, open the end of the loops, and shorten the >> horizontal stroke on top of the 5 so the 5 is not mistaken for an S. >> Always put horizontal strokes

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-21 Thread Richmond
debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Cindy Sue Causey wrote: >> My own mind went to the place of thinking sans serif was about those >> very lines. I just didn't make it to thinking that would make it hard >> to find any alternate in that family. My long time preference is >>

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-21 Thread Christoph K.
Am Sun, 20 Aug 2023 21:41:04 + schrieb "Russell L. Harris" : > On the 3, 5, 6, and 9, open the end of the loops, and shorten the > horizontal stroke on top of the 5 so the 5 is not mistaken for an S. > Always put horizontal strokes on I. Make the 1 with a flag on the > upper end and put a

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-20 Thread Tom Browder
On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 15:45 James H. H. Lampert wrote: > What Herr Rönnquist said. > And given that I actually *do* set type with some regularity, ... > (And for the record, my "go-to fonts" are all versions of Garamond.) Wow, another Garamond lover! I do, too, love it (and bought a copy

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-20 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 10:14:20PM +0200, Christoph K. wrote: And I loathe fonts in which the numerals 3, 5, 6, and 9 are not radically different. Interesting point. Didn't pay much attention to these numerals, yet. Back in the 1970's, I ran across a detailed study of character shape with

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-20 Thread Christoph K.
Am Sat, 19 Aug 2023 20:16:25 + schrieb "Russell L. Harris" : > I am concerned primarily with the distinction between numeral 1 and > lower case L. Of course, 'l' and 'I' was just the most prominent example. Usually I look at 1lI| (numeral one, small 'L' capital 'L', Pipe) > And I loathe

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-20 Thread James H. H. Lampert
What Herr Rönnquist said. And given that I actually *do* set type with some regularity, I can say from experience that, with the exception of some monospaced examples that are only *nominally* sans-serif (e.g., Bitstream Swiss Monospaced), sans-serif fonts in which uppercase I and lowercase l

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-20 Thread Frank
Op 19-08-2023 om 21:19 schreef Christoph K.: I'm unsatisfied with the default sans font in debian for use in the graphical user interface (in my case XFCE). To be honest, I've long since forgotten what the default is. I've used Liberation Mono Regular everywhere in my Xfce DE for ages and I

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-20 Thread Karl Vogel
On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 03:29:22PM -0400, Christoph K. wrote: > > I'm unsatisfied with the default sans font in debian for use in the > graphical user interface (in my case XFCE). I use BSD and Linux, and my eyesight sucks. For console work (23" monitor that's about 2 feet away) I use an Xterm

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-19 Thread Nate Bargmann
For a proportional font, Verdana, Regular seems to come close with, it seems to me, good differentiation between l, I, and 1. O and 0 are a bit problematic as 0 is not dotted or slashed but is more of an ellipse. On this GNOME desktop the interface is set to Cantarell, Regular, and while it has

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-19 Thread Tom Browder
On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 16:15 Russell L. Harris wrote: > bumper sticker: DYSLEXICS UNTIE! I concur on sans comments. You might take a look at the Free* fonts family (Debian packages “fonts-freefont-ttf” and “fonts-freefont-otf”). -Tom

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-19 Thread Russell L. Harris
bumper sticker: DYSLEXICS UNTIE!

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-19 Thread debian-user
Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > My own mind went to the place of thinking sans serif was about those > very lines. I just didn't make it to thinking that would make it hard > to find any alternate in that family. > > My long time preference is developer-weary-eye-friendly > fonts-anonymous-pro for

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-19 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 8/19/23, Andreas Rönnquist wrote: > On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 21:19:48 +0200, > Christoph K. wrote: >> >>I'm unsatisfied with the default sans font in debian for use in the >>graphical user interface (in my case XFCE). >> >>My main concern with the default sans font (I guess it's Bitsream Vera,

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-19 Thread Russell L. Harris
I am a XFCE user with a similar taste in fonts, but I have no need for umlaut. I am concerned primarily with the distinction between numeral 1 and lower case L. And I loathe fonts in which the numerals 3, 5, 6, and 9 are not radically different. Back in the 1970's, I ran across a detailed

Re: Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-19 Thread Andreas Rönnquist
On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 21:19:48 +0200, Christoph K. wrote: >Hi all, > >I'm unsatisfied with the default sans font in debian for use in the >graphical user interface (in my case XFCE). > >My main concern with the default sans font (I guess it's Bitsream Vera, >but that doesn't really matter) is the

Looking for a good "default" font (small 'L' vs. capital 'i' problem)

2023-08-19 Thread Christoph K.
Hi all, I'm unsatisfied with the default sans font in debian for use in the graphical user interface (in my case XFCE). My main concern with the default sans font (I guess it's Bitsream Vera, but that doesn't really matter) is the the small 'L' and the capital 'i' look the same (mostly).