Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Brian
On Sun 29 Mar 2015 at 18:48:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 29 March 2015 12:58:11 Brian wrote: These directives should be in /etc/cups/cups-files. I was just making sure I could kill a job gone wild without having to become root on a rootless system to do it. My color laser

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 06:48:07PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 29 March 2015 12:58:11 Brian wrote: On Sun 29 Mar 2015 at 10:57:37 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: I am getting the impression that the overall install on both doesn't have the correct Browsing options set, from this

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 30 March 2015 12:52:32 Gene Heskett wrote: And, tell that to cups, or if installed, on BEH, which sees it as a failure restarts the job, wasting another 40 sheets of paper toner by the time you get it stopped by nuking the cups stuff in /var/cups or /var/tmp, or maybe /tmp,

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Mar 2015 at 07:52:32 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 30 March 2015 05:59:40 Brian wrote: A rhetorical question? Upstream has explained why a number of times. Rhetorical? No. URL? http://lwn.net/Articles/485617/ should give enough for a wider and deeper search dnssd

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 30 March 2015 07:57:58 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 30 March 2015 12:52:32 Gene Heskett wrote: And, tell that to cups, or if installed, on BEH, which sees it as a failure restarts the job, wasting another 40 sheets of paper toner by the time you get it stopped by nuking the

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 30 March 2015 14:46:11 Gene Heskett wrote: CF You've defeated me _and_ http://www.acronymfinder.com/ this time Gene! Well, anyhow, me. :-( Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 30 March 2015 08:20:27 Brian wrote: On Mon 30 Mar 2015 at 07:52:32 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 30 March 2015 05:59:40 Brian wrote: A rhetorical question? Upstream has explained why a number of times. Rhetorical? No. URL? http://lwn.net/Articles/485617/ That

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Mar 2015 at 12:57:58 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 30 March 2015 12:52:32 Gene Heskett wrote: And, tell that to cups, or if installed, on BEH, which sees it as a failure restarts the job, wasting another 40 sheets of paper toner by the time you get it stopped by nuking the

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 30 March 2015 05:59:40 Brian wrote: On Sun 29 Mar 2015 at 18:48:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 29 March 2015 12:58:11 Brian wrote: These directives should be in /etc/cups/cups-files. I was just making sure I could kill a job gone wild without having to become root on

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread claude juif
Humm, Chinese Food Maybe ? ;) 2015-03-30 16:06 GMT+02:00 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com: On Monday 30 March 2015 14:46:11 Gene Heskett wrote: CF You've defeated me _and_ http://www.acronymfinder.com/ this time Gene! Well, anyhow, me. :-( Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread David Wright
Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com): On Monday 30 March 2015 05:59:40 Brian wrote: On Sun 29 Mar 2015 at 18:48:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 29 March 2015 12:58:11 Brian wrote: These directives should be in /etc/cups/cups-files. I was just making sure I could kill a

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 30 March 2015 10:06:48 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 30 March 2015 14:46:11 Gene Heskett wrote: CF You've defeated me _and_ http://www.acronymfinder.com/ this time Gene! Suffice to say its not supposed to be spelled out in mixed company. Well, anyhow, me. :-( Lisi Cheers, Gene

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 30 March 2015 12:45:50 David Wright wrote: Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com): On Monday 30 March 2015 05:59:40 Brian wrote: On Sun 29 Mar 2015 at 18:48:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 29 March 2015 12:58:11 Brian wrote: These directives should be in

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Dan Purgert
On Mon, 30 Mar 2015 14:31:15 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: [snip...] It does, network-mangler is totally incapable of dealing with a local /etc/hosts file based network. I've added hosts to /etc/hosts with no problem whilst sill having Network Manager do its thing. However, I DID comment out

Reminiscences, was Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread David Wright
Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com): On Monday 30 March 2015 12:45:50 David Wright wrote: Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com): On Monday 30 March 2015 05:59:40 Brian wrote: On Sun 29 Mar 2015 at 18:48:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 29 March 2015 12:58:11 Brian

Re: Reminiscences, was Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 30 March 2015 23:36:02 David Wright wrote: Now I know that you like testing your printers with real 80 page jobs, Your exhuberant guess is approximately 1800 pages short. There are almost 1900 pages of LinuxCNC manuals. I was within 10% of the 88 page jobs you appeared to

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150329_1814+0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 29 March 2015 17:58:11 Brian wrote: Browsing On BrowseOrder allow,deny BrowseAllow all BrowseRemoteProtocols CUPS BrowseAddress @LOCAL BrowseLocalProtocols CUPS dnssd This is almost the standard Wheezy, It will not suffice

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 29 March 2015 05:22:19 deloptes wrote: Paul E Condon wrote: I'm running Jessie, as close to plain vanilla as my hardware allows. I have a HP Laserjet 5MP. This is an ancient device. It has built-in firmware for Level 2 Postscript printing and a special socket for Apple Localtalk

Re: Need help with CUPS printing [solved?]

2015-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150329_1421+0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 29 March 2015 13:36:28 Curt wrote: On 2015-03-29, deloptes delop...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi long mails are not easy to read and understand. Most important is the quality of information in it ... like model number or chipset in the

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-29 Thread Curt
On 2015-03-29, deloptes delop...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi long mails are not easy to read and understand. Most important is the quality of information in it ... like model number or chipset in the hardware you use etc. +1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 29 March 2015 13:36:28 Curt wrote: On 2015-03-29, deloptes delop...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi long mails are not easy to read and understand. Most important is the quality of information in it ... like model number or chipset in the hardware you use etc. +1 I'm afraid that I gave

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-29 Thread Brian
On Sun 29 Mar 2015 at 10:57:37 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: I am getting the impression that the overall install on both doesn't have the correct Browsing options set, from this machine which serves all That could be a possibility, although the OP did say After installing the most recent

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 29 March 2015 17:58:11 Brian wrote: Browsing On BrowseOrder allow,deny BrowseAllow all BrowseRemoteProtocols CUPS BrowseAddress @LOCAL BrowseLocalProtocols CUPS dnssd This is almost the standard Wheezy, It will not suffice on Jessie. The BrowseOrder, BrowseAllow,

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-29 Thread Brian
On Sun 29 Mar 2015 at 18:14:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 29 March 2015 17:58:11 Brian wrote: Browsing On BrowseOrder allow,deny BrowseAllow all BrowseRemoteProtocols CUPS BrowseAddress @LOCAL BrowseLocalProtocols CUPS dnssd This is almost the standard Wheezy, It

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-29 Thread deloptes
Paul E Condon wrote: I'm running Jessie, as close to plain vanilla as my hardware allows. I have a HP Laserjet 5MP. This is an ancient device. It has built-in firmware for Level 2 Postscript printing and a special socket for Apple Localtalk connection, but no USB. It is a sturdy old beast and

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 29 March 2015 12:58:11 Brian wrote: On Sun 29 Mar 2015 at 10:57:37 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: I am getting the impression that the overall install on both doesn't have the correct Browsing options set, from this machine which serves all That could be a possibility, although

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-28 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150327_0237-0400, ken wrote: On 03/26/2015 07:38 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: I'm running Jessie, as close to plain vanilla as my hardware allows. I have a HP Laserjet 5MP. This is an ancient device. It has built-in firmware for Level 2 Postscript printing and a special socket for Apple

Re: Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-27 Thread ken
On 03/26/2015 07:38 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: I'm running Jessie, as close to plain vanilla as my hardware allows. I have a HP Laserjet 5MP. This is an ancient device. It has built-in firmware for Level 2 Postscript printing and a special socket for Apple Localtalk connection, but no USB. It is a

Need help with CUPS printing

2015-03-26 Thread Paul E Condon
I'm running Jessie, as close to plain vanilla as my hardware allows. I have a HP Laserjet 5MP. This is an ancient device. It has built-in firmware for Level 2 Postscript printing and a special socket for Apple Localtalk connection, but no USB. It is a sturdy old beast and was running nicely until