Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-17 Thread David Wright
On Tue 17 May 2022 at 13:52:03 (-0300), Chris Mitchell wrote: > Also note that you very much do *not* need to run your own MTA to > achieve the goal of an address you own and can move from provider to > provider. Very much agree. And with a good choice of provider, you may not want or need to.

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-17 Thread Chris Mitchell
On Tue, 17 May 2022 12:22:48 -0400 Edwin Zimmerman wrote: > > If you can't get a static IP address for your home computer, > > consider running your mail server on a cheap VPS (Virtual Private > > Server). This may be cheaper than a static IP address for your > > home, depending on your ISP. >

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-17 Thread 황병희
rhkra...@gmail.com writes: > Thanks to all who replied! > > I'll need to think over what I want to do. That is true. Email stuff is not easy always. > I guess if I want to run a local MTA, I'd need either a static IP address > (along with a domain) or I'm guessing I could use one of those

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-17 Thread IL Ka
> > > Don't host your email on just any old cheap VPS. Many VPS providers have > bad reputations for not policing spam senders, and as a consequence large > email services like gmail often block whole ip ranges that belong to these > VPS providers. > At least make sure the IP address isn't

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-17 Thread Edwin Zimmerman
On 5/17/22 07:43, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 07:29:51AM -0400, Edwin Zimmerman wrote: >> I would not recommend running an MTA on a dynamic IP address.  I can >> absolutely guarantee you that emails sent from such a system will not reach >> the recipient.  Most email servers

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 07:29:51AM -0400, Edwin Zimmerman wrote: > I would not recommend running an MTA on a dynamic IP address.  I can > absolutely guarantee you that emails sent from such a system will not reach > the recipient.  Most email servers block emails from MTAs with dynamic IP >

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 12:20:52PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > On 2022-05-17 01:44, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Thanks to all who replied! > > > > I'll need to think over what I want to do. > > > > I guess if I want to run a local MTA, I'd need either a static IP > > address > > (along with a

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-17 Thread IL Ka
> > I would not recommend running an MTA on a dynamic IP address. I can > absolutely guarantee you that emails sent from such a system will not reach > the recipient. > +1. You also need SPF (DNS record that lists IP addresses allowed to send emails from a certain domain) which isn't easy if you

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-17 Thread Edwin Zimmerman
> I'm guessing I could use one of those services (and > software) that lets you use a dynamic IP address (by doing something like > updating you if your IP address changes. I would not recommend running an MTA on a dynamic IP address.  I can absolutely guarantee you that emails sent from

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-17 Thread mick crane
On 2022-05-17 01:44, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to all who replied! I'll need to think over what I want to do. I guess if I want to run a local MTA, I'd need either a static IP address (along with a domain) or I'm guessing I could use one of those services (and software) that lets you

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-16 Thread rhkramer
Thanks to all who replied! I'll need to think over what I want to do. I guess if I want to run a local MTA, I'd need either a static IP address (along with a domain) or I'm guessing I could use one of those services (and software) that lets you use a dynamic IP address (by doing something like

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-16 Thread rhkramer
On Monday, May 16, 2022 07:11:47 AM Stella Ashburne wrote: > Excuse me, how is the original post "Permanent email address?" relevant to > this mailing list? I should have marked it OT.

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-16 Thread 황병희
Stella Ashburne writes: > Excuse me, how is the original post "Permanent email address?" > relevant to this mailing list? > (Maybe) it is considered a off-topic. So no problem, i think. Sincerely, Linux fan Byung-Hee -- ^고맙습니다 _和合團結_ 감사합니다_^))//

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-16 Thread Stella Ashburne
Excuse me, how is the original post "Permanent email address?" relevant to this mailing list?

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-16 Thread Curt
On 2022-05-15, John Hasler wrote: > >> I think the only way to avoid this is not to let your incoming email >> sit in anyone else's server i.e. to run an MTA. > > My incoming mail never sits in Pobox's server for more than one minute. A minute seems sufficient. > But it's a store and forward

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-16 Thread Richard Hector
On 16/05/22 05:11, Dan Ritter wrote: I note that nobody owns rhkramer.org: $ host rhkramer.org Host rhkramer.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) NXDOMAIN means no such domain. Not quite. It doesn't mean no-one owns it; it just means (IIRC) there's no A or record for that domain.

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-15 Thread Siard
On Sun, 15 May 2022 16:48 -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > On Sun, 15 May 2022 18:25 +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > Keep the gmail address and just forward from there to an address > > ypu control. > > If you know how to have gmail forward to some other address, I'd love > to know how. I could

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-15 Thread John Hasler
Joe writes: > The OP makes mention of mail 'going through' Google. I believe these > days anyone who handles your email has reserved themselves the right to > read that email and use any data in it as it thinks fit. In the case of free providers such as Gmail of course they do, and they say so.

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-15 Thread Ash Joubert
On 16/05/2022 02:29, Roger Price wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2022, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to have an email address that will be permanent, ... (And that gets my email out of google's control / reach.) Spend the money, get your own domain, it's worth it.  Roger  This is the only

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-15 Thread Ash Joubert
On 16/05/2022 08:48, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: If you know how to have gmail forward to some other address, I'd love to know how. I could avoid having to fetch directly from Google. At the top right of the Gmail web application, choose Settings (⚙️) / press "See all settings" / choose

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-15 Thread 황병희
writes: > [...] > >> I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to do, but take a look at Protonmail: >> >> https://protonmail.com > > Quite a few things I dislike there: > > - browser based > - end encryption and decryption in the browser >(of all things!) > +1; Me too! So Protonmail

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-15 Thread paulf
On Sun, 15 May 2022 18:25:50 +0100 Brian wrote: > > Keep the gmail address and just forward from there to an address > ypu control. > If you know how to have gmail forward to some other address, I'd love to know how. I could avoid having to fetch directly from Google. Paul -- Paul M.

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-15 Thread Joe
On Sun, 15 May 2022 18:33:46 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Sun 15 May 2022 at 17:53:35 +0100, Joe wrote: > > > On Sun, 15 May 2022 17:50:34 +0200 > > Markus Schönhaber wrote: > > > > > 15.05.22, 16:31 +0200, Reco: > > > > > > > On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 10:08:57AM -0400,rhkra...@gmail.com > > >

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-15 Thread tomas
[...] > I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to do, but take a look at Protonmail: > > https://protonmail.com Quite a few things I dislike there: - browser based - end encryption and decryption in the browser (of all things!) - reinventing part of the mail infrastructure (at least,

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-15 Thread Curt
On 2022-05-15, wrote: > > I have a gmail account as well, and I use either fetchmail or > Claws-Mail to pick up my gmail messages. Unfortunately, some of my This belies and debunks thread # 58.

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-15 Thread Brian
On Sun 15 May 2022 at 17:53:35 +0100, Joe wrote: > On Sun, 15 May 2022 17:50:34 +0200 > Markus Schönhaber wrote: > > > 15.05.22, 16:31 +0200, Reco: > > > > > On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 10:08:57AM -0400,rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > >> My understanding is that the (only?) way to do

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-15 Thread Dan Ritter
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > My understanding is that the (only?) way to do get such a permanent address > is > to have my own domain and assign an email address in that domain to me? Correct. Find a domain that is currently unclaimed. Pay $8-15/year to a domain registrar to establish your

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-15 Thread Brian
On Sun 15 May 2022 at 12:59:55 -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: > On Sun, 15 May 2022 10:08:57 -0400 > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I would like to have an email address that will be permanent, in > > that, for example, I can move it from provider to provider as I > > desire or need

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-15 Thread paulf
On Sun, 15 May 2022 10:08:57 -0400 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I would like to have an email address that will be permanent, in > that, for example, I can move it from provider to provider as I > desire or need (if, for example, a provider goes out of business). > (And that gets my email out of

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-15 Thread Joe
On Sun, 15 May 2022 17:50:34 +0200 Markus Schönhaber wrote: > 15.05.22, 16:31 +0200, Reco: > > > On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 10:08:57AM -0400,rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > >> My understanding is that the (only?) way to do get such a > >> permanent address is to have my own domain and assign

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-15 Thread Thomas Hochstein
rhkra...@gmail.com schrieb: > My understanding is that the (only?) way to do get such a permanent address > is > to have my own domain and assign an email address in that domain to me? That is correct. > Also, iiuc, I cannot move my gmail address to some other provider? Of course not. -thh

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-15 Thread Markus Schönhaber
15.05.22, 16:31 +0200, Reco: On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 10:08:57AM -0400,rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: My understanding is that the (only?) way to do get such a permanent address is to have my own domain and assign an email address in that domain to me? If you have to be in control over sending

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-15 Thread ghe2001
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 --- Original Message --- On Sunday, May 15th, 2022 at 8:08 AM, wrote: > I would like to have an email address that will be permanent, in that, for > example, I can move it from provider to provider as I desire or need (if, for >

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-15 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, May 15, 2022 at 10:08:57AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > My understanding is that the (only?) way to do get such a permanent address > is > to have my own domain and assign an email address in that domain to me? If you have to be in control over sending and receiving

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-15 Thread Roger Price
On Sun, 15 May 2022, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to have an email address that will be permanent, ... (And that gets my email out of google's control / reach.) Spend the money, get your own domain, it's worth it. Roger

Re: Permanent email address?

2022-05-15 Thread John Hasler
rhkramer writes: > My understanding is that the (only?) way to do get such a permanent > address is to have my own domain and assign an email address in that > domain to me? Got to pobox.com, open an account, and follow instructions. Many (including me) prefer use different organizations for

Permanent email address?

2022-05-15 Thread rhkramer
in response to the changes that google is making effective May 30 -- I plan to use an application specific password to (I hope) keep kmail working after that date -- the desire for a permanent email address out of google's control is a longer term goal -- I'm not in a big hurry.) My understanding