Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-20 Thread David Wright
an issue. > > Question: with IMAP is it feasible for a mail client to Leave messages > on the server? Well, sorting by Date, mutt lists your post at position: 33858 L 231118 Peter Ehlert (1.2K) Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail out of a total of 33910 on the

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 10:15:56 -0600 Mike McClain wrote: Hello Mike, >A second item that's slightly off topic, I've had no luck setting >up claws-mail to send out through frontier.net and if anyone knows how >to do that I'd appreciate the claws-mail setup for it. Without knowing what you've

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-20 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Monday 20 November 2023 11:15:56 am Mike McClain wrote: > Seeing several messages complaining about fetching messages from > gmail.com I'd like to point out that gmail can be set to forward all > messages to a gmail account to another account on a different server. That's exactly what I'm

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-20 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2023-11-20 at 10:15 -0600, Mike McClain wrote: > Seeing several messages complaining about fetching messages from > gmail.com I'd like to point out that gmail can be set to forward all > messages to a gmail account to another account on a different server. > I saw a message making

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-20 Thread Mike McClain
Seeing several messages complaining about fetching messages from gmail.com I'd like to point out that gmail can be set to forward all messages to a gmail account to another account on a different server. I saw a message making that point several years ago, probably here, and seldom log

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-19 Thread Darac Marjal
On 19/11/2023 17:50, Tixy wrote: On Sun, 2023-11-19 at 07:58 -0800, Peter Ehlert wrote: Question: with IMAP is it feasible for a mail client to Leave messages on the server? My question was incomplete.  I should have added that I must have local copies of almost everything, for Me to filter

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-19 Thread Tixy
On Sun, 2023-11-19 at 07:58 -0800, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > Question: with IMAP is it feasible for a mail client to Leave > > messages > > on the server? > My question was incomplete.  I should have added that I must have > local > copies of almost everything, for Me to filter an purge. > --- >

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-19 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 11/18/23 08:58, Peter Ehlert wrote: thread back from the dead: first, thanks for all of the input and wise suggestions I am going crazy with Thunderbird, and Claws too. Now Claws has a calendar add-on, did not try it but maybe it will suffice. My longtime web and email host support have

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-19 Thread peter ehlert
pardon the top posting. I made a minor change to the security settings that Webmasters omitted (or said Not to do) in their documentation for the security upgrades on their servers, and it's working again. a couple thousand messages to clean and sort, but my will filters do 97% of that. I

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-19 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 11:57:03 + Joe wrote: Hello Joe, >On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 19:31:31 + >Brad Rogers wrote: >> Can be altered in Prefs. >> Display; Summaries Message list tab "Mark message as read" section. >Thank you. I never told it to do that. I think (but don't quote me) it's the

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 19:20:49 + Joe wrote: Hello Joe, >currently, selecting an email in the list marks it as read, which is not Can be altered in Prefs. Display; Summaries Message list tab "Mark message as read" section. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}"

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread David Wright
On Sun 19 Nov 2023 at 04:29:57 (+), Tim Woodall wrote: > On Sat, 18 Nov 2023, Joe wrote: > > > If this area is likely to be the issue, try telnet to the IMAP server > > using port 143, you should get back a list of capabilities which may > > help. Oddly, though I'm using port 993 to my local

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Tim Woodall
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023, Joe wrote: If this area is likely to be the issue, try telnet to the IMAP server using port 143, you should get back a list of capabilities which may help. Oddly, though I'm using port 993 to my local server, it does not return any information from that port, only on 143.

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread jeremy ardley
On 19/11/23 08:04, jeremy ardley wrote: On 19/11/23 01:59, Alex wrote: IMAP clients will therefore keep messages on the IMAP server and not delete them unless you specifically tell them to, for example via right-click -> delete. A client can also alter messages retained on a server or

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread jeremy ardley
On 19/11/23 01:59, Alex wrote: IMAP clients will therefore keep messages on the IMAP server and not delete them unless you specifically tell them to, for example via right-click -> delete. A client can also alter messages retained on a server or event insert new messages. This is

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 19:20:49 + Joe wrote: > Claws cannot compose HTML emails, which may be a showstopper for you. > It can display HTML, though I always use plain text. If I really need > to see HTML, such as when an unsubscribe link is buried in 100K of > useless markup, I use a webmail

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Joe
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 08:58:41 -0800 Peter Ehlert wrote: > thread back from the dead: > first, thanks for all of the input and wise suggestions > > I am going crazy with Thunderbird, and Claws too. > Now Claws has a calendar add-on, did not try it but maybe it will > suffice. > > My longtime web

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Alex
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 08:58:41 -0800 Peter Ehlert wrote: > Question: with IMAP is it feasible for a mail client to Leave > messages on the server? That's why IMAP exists to begin with. IMAP was made to make it possible for multiple clients to manage the same mailbox[1]. IMAP clients will

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread peter ehlert
damn! I forgot... not able to receive on my POP mail accounts! now using the hateful Gmail... maybe that's why Thunderbird can't use a mailing list, they don't trust their own email app. Eff Them! On 11/18/23 08:58, Peter Ehlert wrote: thread back from the dead: first, thanks for all of the

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Peter Ehlert
thread back from the dead: first, thanks for all of the input and wise suggestions I am going crazy with Thunderbird, and Claws too. Now Claws has a calendar add-on, did not try it but maybe it will suffice. My longtime web and email host support have been struggling to help me, Kudos to

Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-08-29 Thread Frank Lanitz
Hi, On 15.08.23 21:48, Russell L. Harris wrote: Consider evolution. Tried it. Used >6GB RAM. .f OpenPGP_signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-08-19 Thread Bret Busby
On 19/8/23 21:49, Peter Ehlert wrote: Claws mail has an official users mailing list, which, I believe, is hosted and administered by the application developer, who also answers queries on the list. Thunderbird email has no official users mailing list, but has two unofficial users

Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-08-19 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 8/15/23 19:20, Max Nikulin wrote: On 15/08/2023 23:43, Peter Ehlert wrote: I am a long time user of Thunderbird. No real complaints, but the GUI has been slowly been changed. I think, Thunderbird will be upgraded to version 115 soon in Debian stable. Major changes of default UI have

Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-08-19 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 8/15/23 12:13, Bret Busby wrote: On 16/8/23 00:43, Peter Ehlert wrote: I am a long time user of Thunderbird. No real complaints, but the GUI has been slowly been changed. lately I have been struggling with that, trying to get it to be My Way. Minor success. also the .msf files have

Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-08-16 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 08:58:25 +0200 Thierry Leurent wrote: Hello Thierry, >Thanks for the information YW, Thierry. Unless one reads the Claws mailing list, it's not easy to have known what was going on. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The

Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-08-16 Thread Thierry Leurent
Thanks for the information On 8/16/23 08:30, Brad Rogers wrote: On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 00:10:20 +0200 Thierry Leurent wrote: Hello Thierry, -  Claws mail not render correctly html mails. It doesn't render them at all, unless you have a suitable plugin installed(1). And yes, for a while, HTML

Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-08-16 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 00:10:20 +0200 Thierry Leurent wrote: Hello Thierry, >-  Claws mail not render correctly html mails. It doesn't render them at all, unless you have a suitable plugin installed(1). And yes, for a while, HTML rendering was not great. This was due to removal (in many

Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-08-15 Thread Max Nikulin
On 15/08/2023 23:43, Peter Ehlert wrote: I am a long time user of Thunderbird. No real complaints, but the GUI has been slowly been changed. I think, Thunderbird will be upgraded to version 115 soon in Debian stable. Major changes of default UI have been announced. I have not tried it, so I

Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-08-15 Thread Thierry Leurent
My last experience with mua is : - KMail have problem with big imap mailbox. -  Claws mail not render correctly html mails. - Thunderbird work great. I'm under kde so I  don't try evolution. On 8/15/23 18:43, Peter Ehlert wrote: I am a long time user of Thunderbird. No real complaints,

Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-08-15 Thread Bret Busby
On 16/8/23 03:48, Russell L. Harris wrote: Consider evolution. I think evolution is one of the gnome applications, where the gnomes shut down all of the users' mailing lists - thence, instability. .. Bret Busby Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) ..

Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-08-15 Thread Russell L. Harris
Consider evolution.

Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-08-15 Thread Bret Busby
On 16/8/23 00:43, Peter Ehlert wrote: I am a long time user of Thunderbird. No real complaints, but the GUI has been slowly been changed. lately I have been struggling with that, trying to get it to be My Way. Minor success. also the .msf files have gotten Huge and that hinders rapid and

Re: Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-08-15 Thread Marco
Am 15.08.2023 um 09:43:57 Uhr schrieb Peter Ehlert: > Question: do you folks recommend migrating to Claws Mail? > the initial look and feel seems to be familiar and comfortable, but I > know little of the history and stability. One way is to use an IMAP server, move the mail to it, then move it

Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-08-15 Thread Peter Ehlert
I am a long time user of Thunderbird. No real complaints, but the GUI has been slowly been changed. lately I have been struggling with that, trying to get it to be My Way. Minor success. also the .msf files have gotten Huge and that hinders rapid and easy backups. In the process I would