Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-08-06 Thread PaulNM
Jordan Metzmeier wrote: On 08/04/2010 08:31 PM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: What do you do if you had access to just one machine (say your personal laptop) and don't have the luxury of running multiple machines (one for testing and one for production etc.,)? Sometimes, it is better/practical

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-08-06 Thread Jari Fredriksson
On 6.8.2010 18:35, PaulNM wrote: If you'll be running the VM only when logged in, virtualbox is definitely preferred. If you need to run headless servers that start automatically on bootup, qemu is the way to go. I use VirtualBox just like you described, but I use VMWare Server 2.0 for

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-08-06 Thread PaulNM
Jari Fredriksson wrote: On 6.8.2010 18:35, PaulNM wrote: If you'll be running the VM only when logged in, virtualbox is definitely preferred. If you need to run headless servers that start automatically on bootup, qemu is the way to go. I use VirtualBox just like you described, but I use

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-08-06 Thread Gilles Mocellin
On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 01:09:17PM -0400, PaulNM wrote: Jari Fredriksson wrote: On 6.8.2010 18:35, PaulNM wrote: If you'll be running the VM only when logged in, virtualbox is definitely preferred. If you need to run headless servers that start automatically on bootup, qemu is the way to

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-08-04 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Jordan Metzmeier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/03/2010 08:57 PM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: I always start upgrading well before the new release is made. I start by upgrading the packages that I use most of the time (ex:- iceweasel, vim, konsole, knode

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-08-04 Thread Jordan Metzmeier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/04/2010 08:31 PM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: What do you do if you had access to just one machine (say your personal laptop) and don't have the luxury of running multiple machines (one for testing and one for production etc.,)?

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-08-03 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Johnny wrote: Hi I am sorry if someone has already has asked this ? on the list When is best time to upgrade from lenny to squeeze. I use my computer daily I always start upgrading well before the new release is made. I start by upgrading the packages that I use most of the time (ex:-

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-08-03 Thread Jordan Metzmeier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/03/2010 08:57 PM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: I always start upgrading well before the new release is made. I start by upgrading the packages that I use most of the time (ex:- iceweasel, vim, konsole, knode etc.,). That way if there is a

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-21 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Paul Cartwright schreef: thanks for clearing that up for all the info! I love the stable lenny release, I dread upgrading the kernel, mainly because of the NVIDIA driver.. not sure why, but it seems that every time I changed the kernel, besides X not working, it also made my network stop...

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-21 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Wed July 21 2010, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: In squeeze, they shipped a dkms-version of the nvidia drivers, and it actually works. I've updated my kernel quite a few times and didn't had to do any 'm-a a-i nvidia'. Does your network card also require some alternative driver? well, not

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-21 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 10:13:10 Paul Cartwright wrote: in squeeze is KDE changed to KDE4 ? Yes - which is why I am still running Lenny. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-21 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Paul Cartwright schreef: On Wed July 21 2010, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: In squeeze, they shipped a dkms-version of the nvidia drivers, and it actually works. I've updated my kernel quite a few times and didn't had to do any 'm-a a-i nvidia'. Does your network card also require some alternative

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-21 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Jul 21, 2010, at 4:45 AM, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: Paul Cartwright schreef: On Wed July 21 2010, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: In squeeze, they shipped a dkms-version of the nvidia drivers, and it actually works. I've updated my kernel quite a few times and didn't had to do any 'm-a a-i nvidia'.

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-21 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Wed July 21 2010, Jordon Bedwell wrote: Could you not just hold back the KDE3 to KDE4 upgrade when you upgrade Debian? the problem is applications that require KDE4 libs.. I've already run into that more than once.In the end, I'm sure I will have to upgrade to KDE4, but I know my wife

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-21 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Jul 21, 2010, at 5:33 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote: On Wed July 21 2010, Jordon Bedwell wrote: Could you not just hold back the KDE3 to KDE4 upgrade when you upgrade Debian? the problem is applications that require KDE4 libs.. I've already run into that more than once.In the end, I'm

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-21 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Wed July 21 2010, Jordon Bedwell wrote: This reminds me of when they started messing with GNOME and started switching defaults and ended up alienating a lot of true Linux users (this was mostly Ubuntu using their sway to do it.) I was always a KDE user, through a few years of learning SUSE,

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-21 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 10:45:06 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: In the long run, you'll either have to accept KDE4 or use the fork of KDE 3.5 at http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/. Or choose something else. CLI? Fluxbox? Another DE? Trinity looks promissing, but seems to be focussed on Ubuntu.

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-21 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 02:43:11PM +0100, Lisi wrote: On Wednesday 21 July 2010 10:45:06 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: In the long run, you'll either have to accept KDE4 or use the fork of KDE 3.5 at http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/. Or choose something else. CLI? Fluxbox? Another DE?

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Tue July 20 2010, you wrote: $ printf 'You are ' \ {         [ $(aptitude search '~S ~i ~Alenny-backports' | wc -l) -ge 1 ] || \ printf 'not ' } \ printf 'using lenny-backports.\n' You are using lenny-backports. The script takes that output and runs it through

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-20 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 20 July 2010 03:56:08 Paul Cartwright wrote: so if I wanted the LIST of packages that I have installed using backports, it would be like this? $ aptitude search '~S ~i ~Alenny-backports' i libmysqlclient-dev - MySQL database development files i A libmysqlclient16

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Tue July 20 2010, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: I tend to use queries like this on my mixed system to determine how far I've drifted from stable.  Right now, on my laptop, 686/1312 packages are from stable, 100/1312 are from backports, and 526/1312 are from testing.  Once I'm running mostly

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-20 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 20 July 2010 05:55:37 Paul Cartwright wrote: back to the original question on the thread:) so, considering that I only have 4 packages installed from backports, what is the squeeze schedule, and I assume now is too early to upgrade? Yes. Wait until the official release

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Tue July 20 2010, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: back to the original question on the thread:) so, considering that I only have 4 packages installed from backports, what is the squeeze schedule, and I assume now is too early to upgrade? Yes.  Wait until the official release announcement.

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-19 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 14 July 2010 10:52:57 Johnny wrote: I am sorry if someone has already has asked this ? on the list When is best time to upgrade from lenny to squeeze. I use my computer daily Are you happy with Lenny? Are you using lenny-backports? If you are happy with Lenny and are not using

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-19 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Mon July 19 2010, you wrote: You should assume you are using lenny-backports. I am, I have this in my sources.list file: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free It is possible you do not have any software installed from that repository, which means it

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-19 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 19 July 2010 15:09:58 Paul Cartwright wrote: On Mon July 19 2010, you wrote: You should assume you are using lenny-backports. I am, I have this in my sources.list file: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free It is possible you do not have

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-17 Thread Jesús M. Navarro
Johnny: On Wednesday 14 July 2010 17:52:57 Johnny wrote: Hi I am sorry if someone has already has asked this ? on the list When is best time to upgrade from lenny to squeeze. I use my computer daily What do you mean by best? Maybe what is best for you is not best for others. That's the

When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-14 Thread Johnny
Hi I am sorry if someone has already has asked this ? on the list When is best time to upgrade from lenny to squeeze. I use my computer daily Johnny -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-14 Thread Jordan Metzmeier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/14/2010 11:52 AM, Johnny wrote: Hi I am sorry if someone has already has asked this ? on the list When is best time to upgrade from lenny to squeeze. I use my computer daily Johnny The question is rather vague... After

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-14 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 12:22:11 -0400 (EDT), Jordan Metzmeier wrote: On 07/14/2010 11:52 AM, Johnny wrote: When is best time to upgrade from lenny to squeeze. I use my computer daily After squeeze becomes the stable release and lenny becomes old stable. At this time, there will be squeeze

Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

2010-07-14 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Stephen Powell put forth on 7/14/2010 12:28 PM: I know, for example, that there will be boot loader issues involving hook scripts, etc. And these are not documented in the Lenny release notes. Stephen, I found the following somewhat related information a bit refreshing. I'm hoping it's a