On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Chris Bannister
cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:35:11AM -0400, Tom H wrote:
Stop in stop job isn't an adjective, it's a noun (or an
attributive noun) just like office in office chair.
Or it could be a verb, as in a command Stop
On 20140814_1035-0400, Tom H wrote:
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Paul E Condon
pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
In English, both 'stop job' and 'stopped job' are an adjective
modifying a noun. The noun in both cases is 'job'. 'stop job' is a
noun phrase expressing a type of job, and
Hi,
I interpret the quoted string in the Subject: header as being flawed
use of English language. 'stop' should be 'stopped'. And, there is a
That would definitely be clearer.
I was interpreting it as some special systemd shutdown-ey thing which
runs around trying to stop things, and
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:35:11AM -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Paul E Condon
pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
In English, both 'stop job' and 'stopped job' are an adjective
modifying a noun. The noun in both cases is 'job'. 'stop job' is a
noun phrase expressing
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
I wonder if the people developing this are paying attention to a
development in de Windows environment where the latest thing is that de
service can report back that it is indeed still trying to stop and not
just hung and not reporting back. Windows
On 8/15/14, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org wrote:
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
I wonder if the people developing this are paying attention to a
development in de Windows environment where the latest thing is that de
service can report back that it is indeed still
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 09:19:48 +
Bonno Bloksma b.blok...@tio.nl wrote:
I wonder if the people developing this are paying attention to a
development in de Windows environment where the latest thing is that
de service can report back that it is indeed still trying to stop and
not just hung
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 09:38:14AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
Some processes don't work well together, and systemd can maintain a
database of such processes, perhaps in Postgres, to prevent one of
those processes from running if the other is already running, unless
the processes themselves tell
Le 12/08/2014 17:48, Michael Biebl a écrit :
Am 12.08.2014 17:16, schrieb Hugo Vanwoerkom:
Right. Debian Sid. 'halt' does not poweroff with systemd.
Well, yeah. halt is not supposed to power off your system.
But that is most likely not the issue Zenaan is having
SAme thing wirh stop
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Erwan David wrote:
Right. Debian Sid. 'halt' does not poweroff with systemd.
The halt/reboot/poweroff binary shipped from sysvinit source will request a
direct power-off, halt or reboot to the kernel. Just give it the -f
option. And don't complain if this causes data
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote:
Bonno Bloksma:
I wonder if the people developing this are paying attention to a
development in de Windows environment where the latest thing is that de
service can report back that it is indeed still trying to stop and not
just hung
Hi.
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 02:12:48 +1200
Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
You mean systemd should shoulder some of the kernel's work?
A database of conflicting processes is a half-measure. Moreover, an
existing implementation of RDBMS older than systemd such as Postgres is
On 8/14/14, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
I should stop. I really have very little firm knowledge of systemd,
just opinions that make sense to me. (tm)
That's TM for YOU son! It's formal english thank you very much. and
(tm) is a very sloppy rendition!! I don't know that we can
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:03:31PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On 8/14/14, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
I should stop. I really have very little firm knowledge of systemd,
just opinions that make sense to me. (tm)
That's TM for YOU son! It's formal english thank you
On 8/14/14, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote:
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:03:31PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On 8/14/14, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
I should stop. I really have very little firm knowledge of systemd,
just opinions that make sense to me. (tm)
Zenaan Harkness writes:
ChrisBanalGrammatistica,
Grammatistica? Which language does this word belong to? Ancient
Debianese, possibly pre-Vax era?
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On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Paul E Condon
pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
In English, both 'stop job' and 'stopped job' are an adjective
modifying a noun. The noun in both cases is 'job'. 'stop job' is a
noun phrase expressing a type of job, and must be some kind of geeky
usage. OTOH,
On 12/08/14 22:23, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Tuesday 12 August 2014 17:53:19 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
But if the english meaning of the words give
exact this difference, so well. In my understanding there never was much of
a difference between halt and poweroff.
I'm not quite clear what you are
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On 08/14/2014 10:35 AM, Tom H wrote:
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Paul E Condon
pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
In English, both 'stop job' and 'stopped job' are an adjective
modifying a noun. The noun in both cases is 'job'. 'stop job'
On 2014-08-14, Iain M Conochie i...@thargoid.co.uk wrote:
Yet this is exactly what my 2 year old car does now. I halt at the
lights and the engine powers off. Is this a bug?
Depends.
Given enough usage, a bug can become a feature.
Some clever folks turn bugs into features, I reckon:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:14:09 +0200
sa...@eng.it wrote:
Zenaan Harkness writes:
ChrisBanalGrammatistica,
Grammatistica? Which language does this word belong to? Ancient
Debianese, possibly pre-Vax era?
At this point, mightn't it be good to change the subject, just in case
the original
On 8/15/14, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
On Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:14:09 +0200
sa...@eng.it wrote:
Zenaan Harkness writes:
ChrisBanalGrammatistica,
Grammatistica? Which language does this word belong to? Ancient
Debianese, possibly pre-Vax era?
At this point, mightn't it be
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Paul E Condon
pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
I interpret the quoted string in the Subject: header as being flawed
use of English language. 'stop' should be 'stopped'. And, there is a
bug in the script that fails to evaluate the variable USER and
therefore
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:15:22AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On 8/13/14, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
I interpret the quoted string in the Subject: header as being flawed
use of English language. 'stop' should be 'stopped'. And, there is a
That would definitely be
On 20140813_1033+0100, Darac Marjal wrote:
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:15:22AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On 8/13/14, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
I interpret the quoted string in the Subject: header as being flawed
use of English language. 'stop' should be 'stopped'.
Debian sid
systemd currently fails to poweroff for me
XFCE (appears to) exit, the mouse point shows
for a while, then the kernel/ shutdown log appears.
The last message is:
A stop job is running for Session 2 of user me
Red asterisks (up to 3) appear to oscillate at left
edge in an ascii wait
Am 12.08.2014 16:50, schrieb Zenaan Harkness:
Debian sid
systemd currently fails to poweroff for me
XFCE (appears to) exit, the mouse point shows
for a while, then the kernel/ shutdown log appears.
The last message is:
A stop job is running for Session 2 of user me
Red asterisks (up
Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Debian sid
systemd currently fails to poweroff for me
XFCE (appears to) exit, the mouse point shows
for a while, then the kernel/ shutdown log appears.
The last message is:
A stop job is running for Session 2 of user me
Red asterisks (up to 3) appear to oscillate at
On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 00:50:31 +1000
Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote:
Red asterisks (up to 3) appear to oscillate at left
edge in an ascii wait for me animation.
You're a lucky guy: I don't have even one asterisk (only
a white underscore and a blinking cursor - on a laptop).
But I'm not
Am 12.08.2014 17:16, schrieb Hugo Vanwoerkom:
Right. Debian Sid. 'halt' does not poweroff with systemd.
Well, yeah. halt is not supposed to power off your system.
But that is most likely not the issue Zenaan is having
--
Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:16:27AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Debian sid
systemd currently fails to poweroff for me
XFCE (appears to) exit, the mouse point shows
for a while, then the kernel/ shutdown log appears.
The last message is:
A stop job is running
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote:
Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Debian sid
systemd currently fails to poweroff for me
XFCE (appears to) exit, the mouse point shows
for a while, then the kernel/ shutdown log appears.
The last message is:
A stop job is
Am Dienstag, 12. August 2014, 17:48:10 schrieb Michael Biebl:
Am 12.08.2014 17:16, schrieb Hugo Vanwoerkom:
Right. Debian Sid. 'halt' does not poweroff with systemd.
Well, yeah. halt is not supposed to power off your system.
Interestingly in the last ten years I have used halt exactly to
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote:
Debian sid
systemd currently fails to poweroff for me
XFCE (appears to) exit, the mouse point shows
for a while, then the kernel/ shutdown log appears.
The last message is:
A stop job is running for Session 2 of
I interpret the quoted string in the Subject: header as being flawed
use of English language. 'stop' should be 'stopped'. And, there is a
bug in the script that fails to evaluate the variable USER and
therefore fails to print the name of the user (aka. owner) of the
stopped job in Session 2.
Did
On Ma, 12 aug 14, 12:51:12, Paul E Condon wrote:
I interpret the quoted string in the Subject: header as being flawed
use of English language. 'stop' should be 'stopped'. And, there is a
...
In a better formulated message, there should be a comma ',' between
'user' and '$USER'. Thus if the
On Tuesday 12 August 2014 17:53:19 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
But if the english meaning of the words give
exact this difference, so well. In my understanding there never was much of
a difference between halt and poweroff.
I'm not quite clear what you are saying, but if you are saying that
On 8/13/14, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote:
Debian sid
systemd currently fails to poweroff for me
XFCE (appears to) exit, the mouse point shows
for a while, then the kernel/ shutdown log appears.
The last message
On 8/13/14, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote:
The last message is:
A stop job is running for Session 2 of user me
Red asterisks (up to 3) appear to oscillate at left
edge in an ascii wait for me animation.
eye of cylon (thanks to who mentioned that)
Have you waited at least 90 secs,
On 8/13/14, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote:
I interpret the quoted string in the Subject: header as being flawed
use of English language. 'stop' should be 'stopped'. And, there is a
That would definitely be clearer.
I was interpreting it as some special systemd shutdown-ey thing
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