Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 19 nov 12, 12:27:22, Tom H wrote: Yes, wheezy's udev thankfully pre-merge. Given that there are a few distributions that want and will want to have a standalone udev for the lifetime of jessie, some agreement can be reached about compiling it easily that way for the foreseeable

SOLVED - systemd hangs on fstab directory bindmount - was Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-20 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 11/20/12, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: On 11/20/12, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: You mentioned, that you use some sort of encryption. Posting more details (fstab, cryptab, etc) might help. I suspect your problem is related to that. ... fstab: # / was on /dev/sda5

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 15:07 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Is this the best place for systemd assistance? The best place to get assistance are the insane people who try to force this into every Linux distribution, with LP leading the way. First, systemd worked. Now it hangs on bootup That's a

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 11/19/12, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 15:07 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Is this the best place for systemd assistance? The best place to get assistance are the insane people who try to force this into every Linux distribution, with LP leading the

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 09:03 +0200, ed mente wrote: Have you tried booting from another device and fsck on your root and boot partitions? No, no, I suspect the issue has something to do with read only or not read only at startup. However, search the web. I don't remember exactly this issue, but

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 09:07:17AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 15:07 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Is this the best place for systemd assistance? The best place to get assistance are the insane people who try to force this into every Linux distribution, with LP leading

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 03:07:54PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Is this the best place for systemd assistance? For systemd-in-Debian, most likely, yes. First, systemd worked. Now it hangs on bootup, with the following messages: What has changed? Have you upgraded systemd or other packages?

Not OT: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 09:27 +, Jon Dowland wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 09:07:17AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 15:07 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Is this the best place for systemd assistance? The best place to get assistance are the insane people who try to

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 11/19/12, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 03:07:54PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Is this the best place for systemd assistance? For systemd-in-Debian, most likely, yes. First, systemd worked. Now it hangs on bootup, with the following messages: What has

Re: Not OT: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:54:57AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: why not warn people to use something that's known for issues only? It isn't known for issues only. There's a lot of heat and noise about problems with systemd, that is true, but a substantial amount of that heat and noise is posts

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: First, systemd worked. Now it hangs on bootup, with the following messages: Loading, please wait... systemd-fsck[249]: /dev/sda5: clean, ... plus one similar fsck msg. After a minute or two it asks me for root pwd

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 15:07 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Is this the best place for systemd assistance? The best place to get assistance are the insane people who try to force this into every Linux

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 07:44 -0500, Tom H wrote: Nothing but innacuracy and FUD, as usual. As I've pointed out in another thread/post [1], you're confusing consolekit and policykit. I'm not. Didn't you read the links? Policykit is a standalone application/package. Consolekit on the other

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Lun 19 novembre 2012 14:38, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 07:44 -0500, Tom H wrote: Nothing but innacuracy and FUD, as usual. As I've pointed out in another thread/post [1], you're confusing consolekit and policykit. I'm not. Didn't you read the links? Policykit is a

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 07:44:39AM -0500, Tom H wrote: The problem is that it's no longer possible for recent versions of udev to compile it without compiling systemd too. The truth is a bit more complicated. You can build just udev from the systemd sources: make udevd rather than the default

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi - please trim your quotes. On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 03:05:55PM +0100, Morel Bérenger wrote: If I am not wrong, there IS such a warning if you do the switch. At least, if you remove the package sysvinit (or whatever name) with aptitude, it will ask you to write an entire sentance which

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 11/19/12, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: First, systemd worked. Now it hangs on bootup, with the following messages: ... Nov 19 14:31:12 localhost named[2353]: error (network unreachable) resolving

Re: Not OT: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 11/19/12, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:54:57AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Could you please answer this question of the OP: On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 19:42 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Can anyone here say they've achieved any sort of systemd joy, or am I just

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Michael Biebl
On 19.11.2012 16:07, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 11/19/12, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: First, systemd worked. Now it hangs on bootup, with the following messages: ... Nov 19 14:31:12 localhost named[2353]: error

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 11/20/12, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: As for getting a more verbose debug log, there is plenty of documentation which is easily found by google. Try http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Systemd_problems or http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging Yes,

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 07:44 -0500, Tom H wrote: Nothing but innacuracy and FUD, as usual. As I've pointed out in another thread/post [1], you're confusing consolekit and policykit. I'm not. Didn't you read the

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Morel Bérenger berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le Lun 19 novembre 2012 14:38, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : Don't worry I'm tired to explain it again and again. Everybody should switch to systemd, it's superb to have everything startup needs in one big binary

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: WFT?!!?! No syslog file. BIG apologies, I have been deceived by the systemd - I assumed it would log _something_ to syslog. No. Everything I was seeing (and reporting on thus far) was init. systemd hangs before it

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 12:08:37 -0500 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: So what was the point?! Systemd is superb! I've nothing to add. It's completely useless to discuss it again and again. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-18 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Is this the best place for systemd assistance? First, systemd worked. Now it hangs on bootup, with the following messages: Loading, please wait... systemd-fsck[249]: /dev/sda5: clean, ... plus one similar fsck msg. After a minute or two it asks me for root pwd or to Ctrl-D for normal bootup. I

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-18 Thread ed mente
Have you tried booting from another device and fsck on your root and boot partitions? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87y5hy2hwh@noname.com

Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-18 Thread Zenaan Harkness
I shall try that tonight, thanks, but didn't think it necessary since it says, each time I try to boot, fsck appears result in clean (see above). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org