Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-11 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Anthony Towns wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 05:39:23AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 07:28:58PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: About freeze timing we think that DebConf should definitely not fall into a freeze We noticed that releases in the first quarter of the year worked

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-11 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Tue Aug 11 10:12, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: Personally I don't think we should do a GR to recommend a freeze or release date. We already used the DPL election to push a release, when it was *long* due, but I don't think we should push a freeze. Zack has been patching devotee to allow

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Aug 11 2009, Matthew Johnson wrote: On Tue Aug 11 10:12, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: Personally I don't think we should do a GR to recommend a freeze or release date. We already used the DPL election to push a release, when it was *long* due, but I don't think we should push a

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-11 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:14:10AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Forking devotee at this point seems to serve little purpose, given that upstream is not hostile. Given that the secretary team haven't heared of these patches (AFAIK), the mention of 'forking' is a bit of a

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-11 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Anthony Towns dijo [Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 01:07:33PM +1000]: So, with August almost half-way over, I guess the release team's not going to be doing much more to seek input from non-key teams/developers. I still think it'd be interesting and useful to get broader input, though. Something like

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Aug 11 2009, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Anthony Towns dijo [Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 01:07:33PM +1000]: So, with August almost half-way over, I guess the release team's not going to be doing much more to seek input from non-key teams/developers. I still think it'd be interesting and useful to

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-11 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Anthony Towns said: Any thoughts? We could have such a vote over and done in about two weeks, with the DPL's consent, and it'd seem a lot more inclusive and less cabal-tastic than how things seem to be working atm... Is there some reason we need something as

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-11 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 11 août 2009 à 15:08 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : Perhaps you should look at this less confrontationally. The vote is a non-binding recommendation, it is an information gathering vote where people provide feedback to the release team; by voting for the option that best

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Aug 11 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mardi 11 août 2009 à 15:08 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : Perhaps you should look at this less confrontationally. The vote is a non-binding recommendation, it is an information gathering vote where people provide feedback to the

Re: Bits from the release team and request for discussion

2009-08-11 Thread Marc Singer
2009/8/11 Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org [deletia] I do not trust a majority of people – regardless of the people – to make an appropriate managerial decision. We have people in charge, who take a lot of time to remain informed of the status of various subsystems in Debian so that they