Re: Q: NEW process licence requirements

2018-04-02 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le dimanche, 1 avril 2018, 00.11:58 h CEST Adrian Bunk a écrit : > Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 11:03:00PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > Like it or not, but there *is* a big difference in the project making > > something available for the big wide world (which a public NEW would > > be), or a user

Re: Q: NEW process licence requirements

2018-04-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:11 AM, Adrian Bunk wrote: > What is the big (legal) difference between distributing something > from the Debian group on the Debian machine salsa.debian.org, and > distributing the same from a different Debian machine? The big difference appears to be the Social Contract

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2018-04-02 Thread Kurt Roeckx
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Re: Question: What would you like to see {more,less} of?

2018-04-02 Thread Chris Lamb
Dear Bdale, > I've been startled sometimes at how other read what I wrote instead of > what I meant, and how often a very small tweak in wording was all it > took to clear up the distinction... Thank you for sharing your wisdom :) Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `.

Re: Question: What would you like to see {more,less} of?

2018-04-02 Thread Bdale Garbee
Chris Lamb writes: > Every time I tried drafting such "loaded" opinions in the past I could > already hear the (perhaps justified…) pushback and thus decided not to > get closer involved. I think it depends a lot on how local vs general the topic is. For example, in my second

Re: Q: NEW process licence requirements

2018-04-02 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Apr 02, 2018 at 10:57:24AM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: >... > The other, critical, factor nobody has raised is time. Why not > assume good faith here? After all, which is more likely - the FTP > team are sitting around doing nothing and happy/enjoying the current > state of affairs, or too

Re: Q: NEW process licence requirements

2018-04-02 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Apr 02, 2018 at 04:11:40PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2018 at 10:36:23PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > If someone does go down the road, then any project creation on salsa > > would possibly end up needing to be vetted by an admin (or a new team > > doing this, or a

Re: Q: NEW process licence requirements

2018-04-02 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Apr 01, 2018 at 10:36:23PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 14994 March 1977, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > Since Debian distributing whatever random people upload to salsa > > is fine for you, I fail to see the point why you would consider > > distributing what is in the DD-only NEW a huge

Re: Question: What would you like to see {more,less} of?

2018-04-02 Thread Chris Lamb
Hi Martin, > > Every time I tried drafting such "loaded" opinions in the past > > I could already hear the (perhaps justified…) pushback and thus > > decided not to get closer involved. > > Don't you think being a leader sometimes requires to withstand some > pushback Of course, but not if one

Re: Question: What would you like to see {more,less} of?

2018-04-02 Thread Chris Lamb
Hi Martin, > > Every time I tried drafting such "loaded" opinions in the past > > I could already hear the (perhaps justified…) pushback and thus > > decided not to get closer involved. > > Don't you think being a leader sometimes requires to withstand some > pushback Of course, but not if one

Re: Question: What would you like to see {more,less} of?

2018-04-02 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Chris Lamb [2018-04-02 21:41 +1200]: > Every time I tried drafting such "loaded" opinions in the past > I could already hear the (perhaps justified…) pushback and thus > decided not to get closer involved. Don't you think being a leader sometimes requires to

Re: Q: NEW process licence requirements

2018-04-02 Thread Chris Lamb
Hi Adrian, > > do we really want to a culture in Debian where it is acceptable to > > publically belittle others' efforts using such emotionally loaded > > words or in such a combatitive / adversarial manner? > > you omitted the relevant part from my email I'm sorry you feel misquoted but I

Re: Question: What would you like to see {more,less} of?

2018-04-02 Thread Chris Lamb
Dear Enrico, > I wouldn't want the DPL to express their opinion with the expectation > that everyone should agree or follow their lead, but more with the idea > of giving a sense of direction Nod. There are a few situations where I would like to have liked to done this during my first term.