Hi,
On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 2:40 PM Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
>
> I don't understand how you semantically see 7 and 8 as comparable.
Aside from Bdale's reason for ranking unwanted options below FD—which
were motivated by the voting system—I do: GRs do not decide a matter
with prejudice, even
Le lundi 19 avril 2021 à 12:46:38-0700, Russ Allbery a écrit :
> "Barak A. Pearlmutter" writes:
>
> > Sam, you make an excellent point about gaps between options, and that
> > a ranking does not show the strength of preferences. Like, I might
> > prefer ALPHA >>> BETA > GAMMA while you prefer
Le dimanche 18 avril 2021 à 22:18:22+0100, Barak A. Pearlmutter a écrit :
> The Schwartz set resolution algorithm is absolutely best of breed. But
> there's an old saying in computer science: garbage in, garbage out.
>
> If we look at the actual ballots, it's really interesting. Options 7
> and 8
"Barak A. Pearlmutter" writes:
> Sam, you make an excellent point about gaps between options, and that
> a ranking does not show the strength of preferences. Like, I might
> prefer ALPHA >>> BETA > GAMMA while you prefer ALPHA > BETA >>> GAMMA.
> So if it's down to ALPHA vs BETA, my vote should
On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 05:32:40PM +0100, Barak A. Pearlmutter wrote:
> Sam Hartman writes:
> > For me though, even there, notice that we'd be choosing between options
> > that the voters considered acceptable.
> > Because of that, I am not bothered by the cycle.
>
> If the decision doesn't
On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 at 16:35, Sam Hartman wrote:
> I think we need voting reform around how the amendment process works and
> managing discussion time ...
> ...
> Preferences can be of different strengths.
>
> Which is to say that the gaps between preferences might be relatively
> weak.
FWIW, I didn't consider 7 and 8 at all similar.
After watching the strain the pre-vote discussion introduced, I decided making
no statement as a project was the best outcome. But if the project were to
make a statement, I wanted to express preference between the acceptable to me
statements,
Sam Hartman writes:
> For me though, even there, notice that we'd be choosing between options
> that the voters considered acceptable.
> Because of that, I am not bothered by the cycle.
If the decision doesn't really matter but a non-FD option must be
chosen (like a hungry group picking a
> "Barak" == Barak A Pearlmutter writes:
Barak> The Schwartz set resolution algorithm is absolutely best of
Barak> breed. But there's an old saying in computer science: garbage
Barak> in, garbage out.
Barak> If we look at the actual ballots, it's really
Barak>
I'm writing to present an alternate interpretation--the one under which
I think our voting system is doing a good job of choosing among complex
ballots in the last couple elections.
I think we need voting reform around how the amendment process works and
managing discussion time, but I am very
Quoting Don Armstrong (2021-04-19 00:39:12)
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2021, Barak A. Pearlmutter wrote:
> > If we look at the actual ballots, it's really interesting. Options 7
> > and 8 were semantically pretty much equivalent. It's hard to see any
> > reason for someone to rank them very differently.
>
On 2021/04/18 23:36, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> Complaining about the
> voting system because you don't like the outcome or because you could
> announce the outcome in an awkward way is not helpful.
Who complained about the voting system because they didn't like the
outcome of this particular vote?
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