recent changes to the CRA address FLOSS community concerns?

2023-12-08 Thread Paul Wise
Hi all, On IRC it was mentioned that there are updates to the CRA that may address the concerns of the FLOSS community. These blogs have updates at the top: https://blog.nlnetlabs.nl/open-source-software-vs-the-cyber-resilience-act/ 拾 update, december 2023: The concerns expressed in this

General Resolution: Statement about the EU Legislation "Cyber Resilience Act and Product Liability Directive"

2023-12-08 Thread Debian Project Secretary - Kurt Roeckx
Hi, This is the first call for votes abouti: Statement about the EU Legislation "Cyber Resilience Act and Product Liability Directive" Voting period starts 2023-12-09 00:00:00 UTC Votes must be received by 2023-12-22 23:59:59 UTC This vote is being conducted as required by the

Re: CRA and PLD vote status

2023-12-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Ilu writes: > Am 08.12.23 um 21:13 schrieb Russ Allbery: >> How about: >> CRA and PLD proposals include regulations detrimental to FOSS > This would be real-english-english? ;-) If it has the same meaning, fine > by me. I've pinged Santiago. Yeah, casually you would normally stick "that

Re: CRA and PLD vote status

2023-12-08 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 at 23:04, Bart Martens wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 10:06:45PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 08/12/23 at 21:58 +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > > [ ] Choice 1: CRA and PLD proposals include regulations detrimental to > > > FOSS > > > [ ] Choice 2: The EU

Re: CRA and PLD vote status

2023-12-08 Thread Bart Martens
On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 10:06:45PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Hi, > > On 08/12/23 at 21:58 +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > [ ] Choice 1: CRA and PLD proposals include regulations detrimental to FOSS > > [ ] Choice 2: The EU should clarify that non-commercial FOSS is exempted > >

Re: CRA and PLD vote status

2023-12-08 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 08/12/23 a las 21:37, Ilu escribió: > Am 08.12.23 um 21:13 schrieb Russ Allbery: > > Ilu writes: > > > > > CRA + PLD proposals include regulations, that will be detrimental > > > to FOSS > > > > How about: > > > > CRA and PLD proposals include regulations detrimental to FOSS > > > >

Re: CRA and PLD vote status

2023-12-08 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, On 08/12/23 at 21:58 +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > [ ] Choice 1: CRA and PLD proposals include regulations detrimental to FOSS > [ ] Choice 2: The EU should clarify that non-commercial FOSS is exempted "non-commercial FOSS" sounds like CC BY-NC-SA (which is not FOSS). What this option is

Re: CRA and PLD vote status

2023-12-08 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 10:39:38PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > Hi, > > I've updated the page at https://www.debian.org/vote/2023/vote_002 which > the current status. Here is the draft ballot: Voting period starts 2023-12-09 00:00:00 UTC Votes must be received by 2023-12-22

Re: CRA and PLD vote status

2023-12-08 Thread Ilu
Am 08.12.23 um 21:13 schrieb Russ Allbery: Ilu writes: CRA + PLD proposals include regulations, that will be detrimental to FOSS How about: CRA and PLD proposals include regulations detrimental to FOSS This would be real-english-english? ;-) If it has the same meaning, fine by me.

Re: CRA and PLD vote status

2023-12-08 Thread Russ Allbery
Ilu writes: > CRA + PLD proposals include regulations, that will be detrimental > to FOSS How about: CRA and PLD proposals include regulations detrimental to FOSS -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org)

Re: CRA and PLD vote status

2023-12-08 Thread Ilu
Am 08.12.23 um 20:55 schrieb Judit Foglszinger: The CRA and PLD proposals include regulations, that will be detrimental to free and open source software We've never had such a long option, and I'm worried this will break for some people trying to vote when it gets wrapped to the next line. But

Re: CRA and PLD vote status

2023-12-08 Thread Judit Foglszinger
> > The CRA and PLD proposals include regulations, that will be detrimental > > to free and open source software > > We've never had such a long option, and I'm worried this will break for > some people trying to vote when it gets wrapped to the next line. But it > might also just be fine. There

Re: CRA and PLD vote status

2023-12-08 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 08:43:33PM +0100, Ilu wrote: > The CRA and PLD proposals include regulations, that will be detrimental > to free and open source software We've never had such a long option, and I'm worried this will break for some people trying to vote when it gets wrapped to the next

Re: CRA and PLD vote status

2023-12-08 Thread Ilu
The CRA and PLD proposals include regulations, that will be detrimental to free and open source software Am 08.12.23 um 20:40 schrieb Kurt Roeckx: The CRA and PLD will be detrimental to open source software

Re: CRA and PLD vote status

2023-12-08 Thread Kurt Roeckx
Since the vote will start in a few hours, I need options for the other 2 options. My best attempts so far: A: The CRA and PLD will be detrimental to open source software B: The EU should clarify that non-commercial open source is exempted C: The EU should not overrule DFSG 6 and FOSS licenses