On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 03:18:25PM +, Sune Vuorela wrote:
That's a nice step. Now we just need someone to maintain the consolekit
codepaths in all the desktop environments, in policykit and in other
users.
It's being maintained by XFCE until the systemd API's are good enough in
On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 06:07:20PM +0900, Tristan Van Berkom wrote:
Is systemd the problem or is the GNOME Desktop Environment[0] ?
Could you maybe address this within GNOME first instead of on Debian?
Going to Debian because you have a concern within GNOME seems rather
counter productive. First
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 09:56:33AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
All this talk about what upstream developers will and won't do.
Seems to me that they've been writing sysvinit scripts for years;
systemd support ADDS work. It's only the GNOME developers who are
being rather vocal about not
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 12:57:49PM +0300, Aigars Mahinovs wrote:
The root of the problem is coming from upstream not caring about
alternative init systems. To take the logind case as an example - each
of the dependencies from GDM to systemd make perfect sense in
isolation. However, the end
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:55:34AM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
The same applies to many upstream developers, they develop software
mainly for themselves, not the users, see for example the latest
development of Gnome. The only way to change this is by creating a large
enough user group taking
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 08:38:36PM +0530, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
On Thursday 23 October 2014 06:08 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 11:55:34AM +0200, Svante Signell wrote:
The same applies to many upstream developers, they develop software
mainly for themselves
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 09:16:49AM +0300, Aigars Mahinovs wrote:
Actually that is a *very* similar issue. Apps should be
window-manager-neutral as much as they should be init-system-neutral.
Imagine if suddenly all Gnome apps stopped working unless you were
running Metacity. It should not be
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 12:23:15PM +0200, Florian Lohoff wrote:
Because of pressure of other upstreams going forward everyone adopted it
and this makes it non controversial - i dont get it?!?
The adaption in openSUSE and Mageia was not due to this. The discussion
is public. If you claim above
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 06:23:30PM +0530, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
On Friday 17 October 2014 05:10 PM, Olav Vitters wrote:
The world isn't just GNOME.
The issue is bigger than just GNOME. Think of e.g. UPower. There is
various other software which is affected by this. Requiring people
On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 12:15:37PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
Russ Allbery writes (Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init
systems):
Since, in my opinion, this question is all about how the project wants to
govern itself and how we want to handle assigning responsibility for work
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