(last minute) Question to both candidates: CRA+PLD, similar regulations, and Debian

2024-04-05 Thread santiago
quirements? [CRA] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/TA-9-2024-0130_EN.html Thanks for running for DPL to both of you! -- Santiago signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: CRA and PLD vote status

2023-12-08 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
and PLD proposals include regulations detrimental to FOSS > > > > This would be real-english-english? ;-) If it has the same meaning, fine > by me. I've pinged Santiago. I fully trust Russ's English skills :-) LGTM. Thank you! signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Call for seconds: Delegate to the DPL

2023-12-07 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 02/12/23 a las 01:07, Bill Allombert escribió: > On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 04:36:29PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > Bill Allombert dijo [Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 10:07:29PM +0100]: > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 09:25:17AM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > > > This is also something we discussed before

More additional changes (was: General Resolution: Statement about the EU Legislation "Cyber Resilience Act and Product Liability Directive")

2023-11-25 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
ial Contract No. 2, 3 and 4 +(2) Debian Social Contract No. 2, 3 and 4 https://www.debian.org/social_contract Thank you all, -- Santiago signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Amendment to the original proposal (was: General Resolution: Statement about the EU Legislation "Cyber Resilience Act and Product Liability Directive")

2023-11-24 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
silience-act-new-cybersecurity-rules-for-digital-products-and-ancillary-services/F3376542_en +Detailed analysis: https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/13410-Cyber-resilience-act-new-cybersecurity-rules-for-digital-products-and-ancillary-services/F3376542_en (3) Debian Social Contract No. 2, 3 and 4 https://www.debian.org/social_contract Cheers, -- Santiago signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: General Resolution: Statement about the EU Legislation "Cyber Resilience Act and Product Liability Directive"

2023-11-21 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
Thanks to those who have spotted errors and have proposed fixes! I am collecting more patches, and I will send an updated proposal as soon as possible. But I won't be able to do it earlier than tomorrow Wednesday, when I will be in the Northern hemisphere. El 21/11/23 a las 12:01, Miriam Ruiz

Re: Re: Call for vote: public statement about the EU Legislation "Cyber Resilience Act and Product Liability Directive"

2023-11-21 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
t; > Second version, taking into account feedback. Looking for seconds at > > this point: > > Maybe Santiago wants to adopt this text, rather than having 2 options? The initial proposal was made collectively, and now I realise I should have signed with a "On behalf of the Debian fellows

Re: Call for vote: public statement about the EU Legislation "Cyber Resilience Act and Product Liability Directive"

2023-11-15 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 15/11/23 a las 00:49, Luca Boccassi escribió: > On Sun, 2023-11-12 at 12:10 -0300, Santiago Ruano Rincón wrote: > > Dear Debian Fellows, > > > > Following the email sent by Ilu to debian-project (Message-ID: > > <4b93ed08-f148-4c7f-b172-f967f7de7...@gmx.net&g

Call for vote: public statement about the EU Legislation "Cyber Resilience Act and Product Liability Directive"

2023-11-12 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
security-rules-for-digital-products-and-ancillary-services/F3376542_en (3) Debian Social Contract No. 2, 3 and 4 https://www.debian.org/social_contract - GENERAL RESOLUTION ENDS - Cheers, -- Santiago signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

2022-08-31 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
d mailing lists). > > Thereby re-inforcing the interpretation that any installer or image with > non-free software on it is not part of the Debian system, but that we > support their use and welcome others to distribute such work. > > == I won't vote for this, but I think it is important to have this option on the ballot. Seconded, -- Santiago signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Reaffirm public voting

2022-03-04 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 04/03/22 a las 12:03, Mattia Rizzolo escribió: > On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 10:42:51AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > > Reaffirm public voting > > == > > > > Since we can either have secret and intransparent voting, or we can have > > open and transparent voting, the project

Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian

2021-04-01 Thread Santiago R.R.
El 31/03/21 a las 20:14, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz escribió: > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 19:53 Enrico Zini wrote: > > Hello Debian Members, > > > > For some time, we have been having systemic issues that make GR > > discussions painful. GRs themselves shouldn't be painful, and don't need > > to be.

Re: Amendement to GR Statement regarding Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-30 Thread Santiago R.R.
both with the FSF and any other organisation in which > >>> Richard > >>> Stallman has a leading position. > >> Hi Santiago, > >> > >> I know this is more of a question about the original FSFE statement with > >> this phrasing, but sinc

Re: Amendement to GR Statement regarding Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-29 Thread Santiago R.R.
El 29/03/21 a las 14:51, Santiago R.R. escribió: > Hi, > > This is mostly Sruthi Chandran's proposed amendment, with minor tweaks > and without asking for resignation. I am proposing this because I don't > want Debian tells other organisations what to do (small differenc

Amendement to GR Statement regarding Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-29 Thread Santiago R.R.
Hi, This is mostly Sruthi Chandran's proposed amendment, with minor tweaks and without asking for resignation. I am proposing this because I don't want Debian tells other organisations what to do (small difference that for me is important). Choice X: Debian is unable to collaborate with FSF ===

Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-26 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 26/03/21 a las 13:26, Dominik George escribió: > Hi, > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 11:50:31AM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > [replying only to -vote - please avoid cross-posting!] > > OK, but you actually replied only to -devel instead of -vote. > > > > > Quoting Dominik George

Re: GR Proposal: replace "Chairman" with "Chair" throughout the Debian Constitution

2016-07-08 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
ances of the word Chairman shall be replaced with the word Chair. > > === END GR TEXT === Seconded. Thanks! Santiago signature.asc Description: PGP signature

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Re: summary of software licenses in non-free

2004-01-11 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2004 at 06:57:09PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: mocka BSD-style license with noxious advertising clause. why is this in non-free? This does look like a mistaken categorization to me; to my eye, the

Re: summary of software licenses in non-free

2004-01-11 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, 10 Jan 2004, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2004 at 06:57:09PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: mocka BSD-style license with noxious advertising clause. why is this in non-free? This does look like a mistaken categorization to me; to my eye, the

Re: GR: Removal of non-free

2004-01-09 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Andrew Suffield wrote: The next release of Debian will not be accompanied by a non-free section; there will be no more stable releases of the non-free section. The Debian project will cease active support of the non-free

Re: GR: Removal of non-free

2004-01-09 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Andrew Suffield wrote: The next release of Debian will not be accompanied by a non-free section; there will be no more stable releases of the non-free section. The Debian project will cease active support of the non-free

Re: where to submit bugs in constituion

2002-11-19 Thread Santiago Vila
Susan Kleinmann wrote: I have found a few sentences in the debian constitution· http://www.debian.org/devel/constitution which seem incomplete or just wrong to me, so I wonder what's the name of the package to which I should submit the bug report. Please respond to me as well as the list,

Re: General Resolution draft against spam.

2002-10-20 Thread Santiago Vila
Manoj Srivastava wrote: Santiago My points is that posting to a mailing list should be a Santiago privilege, not a right. I strongly disagree. We are vendors who provide an OS. I know we do not treat users as customers, but being a debian user is not a privilege. Of course

Re: General Resolution draft against spam.

2002-10-19 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Manoj Srivastava wrote: The answer is not to treat legitimate users like dirt, and force them to use the subscribe address (my subscribe address is never the address I post from). No, you could subscribe the address you post from to the white list. Smartlist then

Re: General Resolution draft against spam.

2002-10-19 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Santiago Unless you change ISP several times a week, this would not be a Santiago problem for you, Manoj. I change ISP's several times a month, and, indeed, sometimes use more than 2 a week. Well, but most people don't do that. Can you

Re: General Resolution draft against spam.

2002-10-19 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, Manoj Srivastava wrote: The answer is not to treat legitimate users like dirt, and force them to use the subscribe address (my subscribe address is never the address I post from). No, you could subscribe the address you post from to the white list. Smartlist then

Re: General Resolution draft against spam.

2002-10-19 Thread Santiago Vila
On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Santiago Unless you change ISP several times a week, this would not be a Santiago problem for you, Manoj. I change ISP's several times a month, and, indeed, sometimes use more than 2 a week. Well, but most people don't do that. Can you

General Resolution draft against spam.

2002-10-16 Thread Santiago Vila
Draft. Comments welcome. Please Cc the list, not me. Those who have in Debian the power to do so, will implement the following: To avoid spammers harvesting addresses from the list archives: - The public web archives

Re: General Resolution draft against spam.

2002-10-16 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Adam Heath wrote: On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Santiago Vila wrote: Those who have in Debian the power to do so, will implement the following: The rest of your email is ignorable, because the above is blatantly wrong. You can't force anyone to do anything, period. If you

Re: General Resolution draft against spam.

2002-10-16 Thread Santiago Vila
Enough comments. I withdraw my proposal (better said: I won't make it official). Thanks everybody. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

General Resolution draft against spam.

2002-10-16 Thread Santiago Vila
Draft. Comments welcome. Please Cc the list, not me. Those who have in Debian the power to do so, will implement the following: To avoid spammers harvesting addresses from the list archives: - The public web archives

Re: General Resolution draft against spam.

2002-10-16 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Adam Heath wrote: On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Santiago Vila wrote: Those who have in Debian the power to do so, will implement the following: The rest of your email is ignorable, because the above is blatantly wrong. You can't force anyone to do anything, period. If you want

Re: General Resolution draft against spam.

2002-10-16 Thread Santiago Vila
Enough comments. I withdraw my proposal (better said: I won't make it official). Thanks everybody.

Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader

2001-02-23 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Craig Sanders wrote: On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 04:29:15PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: Branden Robinson wrote: Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's a sacrifice I'm willing

Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader

2001-02-22 Thread Santiago Vila
Branden Robinson wrote: Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. It's funny that someone who wants to be the Project Leader uses the word "sacrifice" here. -- To

Re: my platform for Debian Project Leader

2001-02-22 Thread Santiago Vila
Branden Robinson wrote: Nevertheless, if elected DPL, I realize that I turn the temperature down on my occasional email flame of a fellow developer. That's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. It's funny that someone who wants to be the Project Leader uses the word sacrifice here.

Re: Non-Constitutional Voting Procedure

2000-09-29 Thread Santiago Vila
unzip should be in main now - it's now got a free license. Clarification: unzip is in non-US/main in woody, for those who didn't find it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Non-Constitutional Voting Procedure

2000-09-29 Thread Santiago Vila
unzip should be in main now - it's now got a free license. Clarification: unzip is in non-US/main in woody, for those who didn't find it.

Re: Non-Constitutional Voting Procedure

2000-09-27 Thread Santiago Vila
The problem is: (a) A group of developers don't think the social contract can legally (according to the constitution) be modified (b) A group of developers think modification of the social contract should require a supermajority (c) A group of

Re: Non-Constitutional Voting Procedure

2000-09-27 Thread Santiago Vila
I wrote: * Our constitution is incomplete because there is not a constitutional way to determine whether something is constitutional or not. We would need to amend it and create a constitutional court of justice. Ooops! I have just been pointed out that this is not true, because of

Re: Non-Constitutional Voting Procedure

2000-09-26 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, you wrote: On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 12:22:58PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: 5.Issue nontechnical policy documents and statements. These include documents describing the goals of the project, its relationship with other free software entities, and nontechnical

Re: Formal CFV: General Resolution to Abolish Non-Free

2000-06-12 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 7 Jun 2000, John Goerzen wrote: Debian General Resolution Resolved: A. That the Debian Social Contract with the Free Software Community be amended as follows: 1. That text of Section 5 be modified to read: We acknowledge that some of our