Re: Amendment to rms-open-letter GR

2021-03-26 Thread M dB
To add my "only for myself": +1 to all of this. Cheers, M. On 3/26/21 6:22 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 01:02:43PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: >> Can I ask why you didn't call for the recall of all of the voting >> members rather than just the board? It seems there

Re: Amendment to rms-open-letter GR

2021-03-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 01:02:43PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > Can I ask why you didn't call for the recall of all of the voting > members rather than just the board? It seems there are voting members > who are not on the board? Yeah, sure (as before: speaking only for myself). Because I

Re: Amendment to rms-open-letter GR

2021-03-26 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Thu 25 Mar 2021 at 10:33PM +01, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:50:37PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: >> I'm not sure I like this. I believe that removing the board is a >> critical part of the letter. They are 4 friends that RMS chooses that he >> chose because

Re: Amendment to rms-open-letter GR

2021-03-26 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello Jonathan, On Thu 25 Mar 2021 at 10:50PM +02, Jonathan Carter wrote: > I'm not sure I like this. I believe that removing the board is a > critical part of the letter. They are 4 friends that RMS chooses that he > chose because they never appose him. They are not elected by members of > the

Re: Amendment to rms-open-letter GR

2021-03-26 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Thu 25 Mar 2021 at 01:17PM -07, Sean Whitton wrote: > The point of this is not to call for the removal of the entire FSF > board, as the open letter does, while still supporting the main thrust > of the open letter, which is about Stallman himself. > > The vote to restore Stallman to

Re: Amendment to rms-open-letter GR

2021-03-26 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 01:48:39AM -0500, Richard Laager wrote: > > Seeking seconds: > > > > ===BEGIN > > > > Replace the entire text with: > > > > Under section 4.1.5 of the constitution, the Developers make the > > following statement: > > > > The Debian Project echoes and supports recent

Re: Amendment to rms-open-letter GR

2021-03-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Sean Whitton (2021-03-25 21:17:34) > ===BEGIN > > Replace the entire text with: > > Under section 4.1.5 of the constitution, the Developers make the > following statement: > > The Debian Project echoes and supports recent calls to remove Richard > M. Stallman from positions of

Re: Amendment to rms-open-letter GR

2021-03-26 Thread Richard Laager
[Hopefully signed this time for the record. Sorry for the noise.] Seeking seconds: ===BEGIN Replace the entire text with: Under section 4.1.5 of the constitution, the Developers make the following statement: The Debian Project echoes and supports recent calls to remove Richard M. Stallman

Re: Amendment to rms-open-letter GR

2021-03-26 Thread Gard Spreemann
Sean Whitton writes: > Hello, > > Seeking seconds: > > ===BEGIN > > Replace the entire text with: > > Under section 4.1.5 of the constitution, the Developers make the > following statement: > > The Debian Project echoes and supports recent calls to remove Richard > M. Stallman from positions of

Re: Amendment to rms-open-letter GR

2021-03-26 Thread Richard Laager
Seeking seconds: ===BEGIN Replace the entire text with: Under section 4.1.5 of the constitution, the Developers make the following statement: The Debian Project echoes and supports recent calls to remove Richard M. Stallman from positions of leadership within free software, for which we

Re: Amendment to rms-open-letter GR

2021-03-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:50:37PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: > I'm not sure I like this. I believe that removing the board is a > critical part of the letter. They are 4 friends that RMS chooses that he > chose because they never appose him. They are not elected by members of > the FSF but a

Re: Amendment to rms-open-letter GR

2021-03-25 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Sean On 2021/03/25 22:17, Sean Whitton wrote: > The point of this is not to call for the removal of the entire FSF > board, as the open letter does, while still supporting the main thrust > of the open letter, which is about Stallman himself. > > The vote to restore Stallman to the board was

Re: Amendment to rms-open-letter GR

2021-03-25 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Sean" == Sean Whitton writes: Sean> The vote to restore Stallman to the board was not unanimous, Sean> and there is some confusion about how the procedure for Sean> elections to the board actually works, so the call to remove Sean> *all* board members does not make sense

Amendment to rms-open-letter GR

2021-03-25 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, Seeking seconds: ===BEGIN Replace the entire text with: Under section 4.1.5 of the constitution, the Developers make the following statement: The Debian Project echoes and supports recent calls to remove Richard M. Stallman from positions of leadership within free software, for which