Re: Debian's relationship with money and the economy

2013-03-19 Thread Gergely Nagy
Hello, Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes: The Debian ecosystem includes many economical actors, be it companies or individuals, but we tend to hide those aspects as if they didn't exist. Well, we have the debian-companies[1] list, we also have a partners page[2], and the

Re: Debian's relationship with money and the economy

2013-03-18 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 22:07:39 +0100 Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org wrote: For example, LWN's regular stats on contributions to the various Linux Kernel releases are based on email domains. So it seems unfair to compare the two worlds on the basis of which email domains are used when

Re: Debian's relationship with money and the economy

2013-03-16 Thread Toni Mueller
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 01:01:25PM +0300, Moray Allan wrote: Though, for clarity, I wouldn't want DPN to turn into some kind of Slashdot clone that just happens to be run by Debian people -- I We have planet.debian.org for that, right? Cheers, --Toni++ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Debian's relationship with money and the economy

2013-03-15 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 08:13:02PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: I think I would generally be fine about an informational message in Debian Project News about an fundraising campaign for something that clearly benefits Debian. Btw, in the specific example of your book, have you considered

Re: Debian's relationship with money and the economy

2013-03-15 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-03-15 12:32, Neil McGovern wrote: My view as one of the press officers is that I'll issue press releases for newsworthy[0] items that the *project* has done, and DPN should have news items that are informative to people interested in the project. Yes -- now that you've said it, this

Re: Debian's relationship with money and the economy

2013-03-15 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-03-14 23:34, Raphael Hertzog wrote: I never use my @freexian.com email even when my contributions are the result of work for my customers. We have many DD working at Credativ, I have never seen Credativ being credited anywhere. HP is recognized for their hardware donations, but I don't

Re: Debian's relationship with money and the economy

2013-03-15 Thread Francesca Ciceri
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 01:01:25PM +0300, Moray Allan wrote: And clearly it's up to the DPN editors to decide whether to include specific story suggestions or not. Thank you Moray for making this point. Francesca, the other press officer -- Non mi uccise la morte, ma due guardie bigotte, mi

Re: Debian's relationship with money and the economy

2013-03-14 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-03-12 14:06, Raphael Hertzog wrote: The Debian ecosystem includes many economical actors, be it companies or individuals, but we tend to hide those aspects as if they didn't exist. I don't think that's quite the case. Perhaps Debian's commercial partnership/sponsorship/supporter

Re: Debian's relationship with money and the economy

2013-03-14 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, On 12/03/13 at 12:06 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Hi, my previous mail targeted the topic of using Debian's money (20130312094330.ga30...@x230-buxy.home.ouaza.com). But the topic of money in Debian does not have to be limited to that. The Debian ecosystem includes many economical

Re: Debian's relationship with money and the economy

2013-03-14 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 14/03/13 at 20:13 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Btw, in the specific example of your book, have you considered creating a Debian package for it? Oops, I missed http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/debian-handbook Excellent! Lucas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Debian's relationship with money and the economy

2013-03-14 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Thu, 14 Mar 2013, Moray Allan wrote: On 2013-03-12 14:06, Raphael Hertzog wrote: The Debian ecosystem includes many economical actors, be it companies or individuals, but we tend to hide those aspects as if they didn't exist. I don't think that's quite the case. Perhaps Debian's

Re: Debian's relationship with money and the economy

2013-03-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 09:34:10PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Put this in contrast with the Linux Kernel community. There must be a reason why companies are so shy when it comes to Debian... In the Linux Kernel community there is a virtuous culture of measuring company contributions, which

Debian's relationship with money and the economy

2013-03-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, my previous mail targeted the topic of using Debian's money (20130312094330.ga30...@x230-buxy.home.ouaza.com). But the topic of money in Debian does not have to be limited to that. The Debian ecosystem includes many economical actors, be it companies or individuals, but we tend to hide those