How you can credibly blame the FSF to have kept secret the process of RMS
reinstatement, when you are the first asking to keep secret the votes in regard
of this stupid GR ? You should select better the DPL the next time, pushing
a such divisive GR in freeze time was a very bad decision for
Hi,
On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 03:06:07PM +, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> Could we get a Constitution Amendment GR passed along the lines of the
> following?
>
> Provided that 2*Q developers demand it, votes are kept secret after
> the vote ended.
I would actually prefer it to be easier:
If
Hello,
On 01.04.21 20:08, Bart Martens wrote:
On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 05:00:47PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
The constitution says:
3. Votes are taken by the Project Secretary. Votes, tallies, and
results are not revealed during the voting period; after the vote
the Project
On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 05:00:47PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> The constitution says:
> 3. Votes are taken by the Project Secretary. Votes, tallies, and
>results are not revealed during the voting period; after the vote
>the Project Secretary lists all the votes cast. The
Kurt Roeckx writes:
...
>after the vote the Project Secretary lists all the votes cast.
...
> You could say that "all the votes cast" could mean what was voted,
You could also note that there is no stipulation of how soon after the
vote that publication must occur, and decide that in
Felix Lechner writes:
> Moving to new software without preparation or a chance to practice
We would have to pass a constitutional amendment to allow for secret votes
for anything other than DPL elections, at least by my understanding of the
constitution and this thread, so there will be plenty
On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 10:18:08AM -0700, Felix Lechner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 9:59 AM Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> >
> > I could move to voting software like Belenios
>
> Moving to new software without preparation or a chance to practice
> could discourage centrist voters—i.e. those
On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 09:47:51AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> I didn't quite parse that, so I'm not sure if this is what you were
> already proposing, but I wonder if we should just have secret ballots for
> all votes.
My bad for my previous non-parsable paragraph. I was proposing something
Le jeudi 01 avril 2021 à 10:18:08-0700, Felix Lechner a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 9:59 AM Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> >
> > I could move to voting software like Belenios
>
> Moving to new software without preparation or a chance to practice
> could discourage centrist voters—i.e. those
Hi,
On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 9:59 AM Kurt Roeckx wrote:
>
> I could move to voting software like Belenios
Moving to new software without preparation or a chance to practice
could discourage centrist voters—i.e. those who care least but provide
the gravity to hold the project together.
It could
On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 09:47:51AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Stefano Zacchiroli writes:
>
> > This is probably something that should be fixed in the Constitution, by
> > mandating secret voting for elections whereas living to the judgment of
> > the secretary whether other GR votes should be
Stefano Zacchiroli writes:
> This is probably something that should be fixed in the Constitution, by
> mandating secret voting for elections whereas living to the judgment of
> the secretary whether other GR votes should be secret or not.
I didn't quite parse that, so I'm not sure if this is
Le jeudi 01 avril 2021 à 19:04:41+0300, Andrei POPESCU a écrit :
> On Jo, 01 apr 21, 17:00:47, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> >
> > This would be a vote I would also like to see as secret. The
> > constitution says:
> > 3. Votes are taken by the Project Secretary. Votes, tallies, and
> >results
On Jo, 01 apr 21, 17:00:47, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
>
> This would be a vote I would also like to see as secret. The
> constitution says:
> 3. Votes are taken by the Project Secretary. Votes, tallies, and
>results are not revealed during the voting period; after the vote
>the
Hi,
On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 8:01 AM Kurt Roeckx wrote:
>
> This would be a vote I would also like to see as secret. The
Maybe a solution would be to offer two alternatives of each option on
the ballot—one as currently stated, and one that includes a secret
vote instruction to the secretary. It
Stefano Zacchiroli, 2021-04-01 10:41 -0400:
> On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 12:42:01PM +, Jean Duprat (Avignon) wrote:
> > Votes in leadership elections are kept secret even after the end of
> > the voting period for obvious reasons: by knowing that the ballot is
> > secret, voters can feel free to
1 avril 2021 17:01 "Kurt Roeckx" a écrit:
> On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 04:40:59PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 12:42:01PM +, Jean Duprat (Avignon) wrote:
>> Votes in leadership elections are kept secret even after the end of
>> the voting period for obvious
On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 04:40:59PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 12:42:01PM +, Jean Duprat (Avignon) wrote:
> > Votes in leadership elections are kept secret even after the end of
> > the voting period for obvious reasons: by knowing that the ballot is
> > secret,
On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 12:42:01PM +, Jean Duprat (Avignon) wrote:
> Votes in leadership elections are kept secret even after the end of
> the voting period for obvious reasons: by knowing that the ballot is
> secret, voters can feel free to express their opinion as they see
> fit. This
Hi,
On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 6:17 AM Pasha wrote:
>
> Could you please provide any historical example of your "mob justice" ?
Sadly, a discussion over proof cannot solve the issue. The request of
a single eligible voter—motivated by fear or otherwise—should trigger
a secret procedure. (Although
On Thu, 2021-04-01 at 12:42 +, Jean Duprat (Avignon) wrote:
> Votes in leadership elections are kept secret even after the end of
> the voting period for obvious reasons: by knowing that the ballot is
> secret, voters can feel free to express their opinion as they see
> fit. This
Votes in leadership elections are kept secret even after the end of the voting
period for obvious reasons: by knowing that the ballot is secret, voters can
feel free to express their opinion as they see fit. This constitutional
guarantee sadly does not apply to General Resolutions.
The GR
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