Hi,
On 11/13/23 02:47, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote:
Similarly, where the
main contributors to free and open-source projects are developers
employed by commercial entities and when such developers or the employer
can exercise control as to which modifications are accepted in the
On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 01:03:38PM -0600, Simon Quigley wrote:
> Just for good measure, seconded.
This is the 5th second.
Kurt
Just for good measure, seconded.
If this does go through, I am curious about the wider impact this has on the
free software and open source community, outside the EU. As a United States
citizen, I fear fragmentation in software availability and licenses that could
potentially "wall off" the
"Art. 3
(1) ‘product with digital elements’ means any software or hardware
product ...
(18) ‘manufacturer’ means any natural or legal person who develops or
manufactures products with digital elements ... and markets them under
his or her name or trademark, whether for payment or free of charge;
On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 at 18:11, Ilulu wrote:
> Am 12.11.23 um 19:01 schrieb Luca Boccassi:
> > Yes - if it's "made available on the market", which is in the first
> > bit that was snipped. Pushing a repository on Gitlab is not "making
> > available on the market".
>
> You are wrong. It is. That's
Am 12.11.23 um 19:01 schrieb Luca Boccassi:
Yes - if it's "made available on the market", which is in the first
bit that was snipped. Pushing a repository on Gitlab is not "making
available on the market".
You are wrong. It is. That's why the proposal has:
"(10d) The sole act of hosting
On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 at 17:47, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 at 14:35, Ilulu wrote:
> >
> [snip]
> > (10a) For example, a fully decentralised development model, where no
> > single commercial entity exercises control over what is accepted into
> > the
On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 at 17:35, Ilulu wrote:
>
> Am 12.11.23 um 18:09 schrieb Luca Boccassi:
> > We do know whether something is commercial or not though ...
>
> I sincerely doubt that. Just to illustrate this I'm citing a part (only
> a part) of one of the regulation drafts which are presently
Hi,
On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 at 14:35, Ilulu wrote:
>
[snip]
> (10a) For example, a fully decentralised development model, where no
> single commercial entity exercises control over what is accepted into
> the project’s code base, should be taken as an indication that the
> product has been developed
Am 12.11.23 um 18:38 schrieb Luca Boccassi:
Which definitions does the proposal use? Could you please quote them?
The first two links do not provide any, as far as I can see. The third
link (a blog post, not a piece of legislation) explicitly says: "the
Cyber Resilience Act does not define
On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 at 17:29, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On November 12, 2023 5:09:26 PM UTC, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> >On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 at 15:10, Santiago Ruano Rincón
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Debian Fellows,
> >>
> >> Following the email sent by Ilu to debian-project (Message-ID:
> >>
Am 12.11.23 um 18:09 schrieb Luca Boccassi:
> We do know whether something is commercial or not though ...
I sincerely doubt that. Just to illustrate this I'm citing a part (only
a part) of one of the regulation drafts which are presently considered
in trilogue.
"(10) Only free and open-source
On November 12, 2023 5:09:26 PM UTC, Luca Boccassi wrote:
>On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 at 15:10, Santiago Ruano Rincón
> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Debian Fellows,
>>
>> Following the email sent by Ilu to debian-project (Message-ID:
>> <4b93ed08-f148-4c7f-b172-f967f7de7...@gmx.net>), and as we have
>>
On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 at 15:10, Santiago Ruano Rincón
wrote:
>
> Dear Debian Fellows,
>
> Following the email sent by Ilu to debian-project (Message-ID:
> <4b93ed08-f148-4c7f-b172-f967f7de7...@gmx.net>), and as we have
> discussed during the MiniDebConf UY 2023 with other Debian Members, I
> would
Hi,
Thanks for pushing this forward. Seconded.
Cheers,
Nicolas
On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 12:10:21PM -0300, Santiago Ruano Rincón wrote:
> Dear Debian Fellows,
>
> Following the email sent by Ilu to debian-project (Message-ID:
> <4b93ed08-f148-4c7f-b172-f967f7de7...@gmx.net>), and as we have
>
I have also been part of the discussion on the Mini DebConf and I second
this.
On 12/11/23 12:10, Santiago Ruano Rincón wrote:
Dear Debian Fellows,
Following the email sent by Ilu to debian-project (Message-ID:
<4b93ed08-f148-4c7f-b172-f967f7de7...@gmx.net>), and as we have
discussed during
On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 12:10:21PM -0300, Santiago Ruano Rincón wrote:
> I
> would like to call for a vote about issuing a Debian public statement
> regarding
> the EU Cyber Resilience Act (CRA) and the Product Liability Directive
> (PLD).
I also second this vote, reporter verbatim hereafter.
>
We discussed the text quoted below (that is, the full text that
Santiago just sent), and I find its wide discussion and, at least,
understanding of utmost importance to the free software community as a
whole.
I wholeheartedly second the call for votes with this text.
Santiago Ruano Rincón dijo
Dear Debian Fellows,
Following the email sent by Ilu to debian-project (Message-ID:
<4b93ed08-f148-4c7f-b172-f967f7de7...@gmx.net>), and as we have
discussed during the MiniDebConf UY 2023 with other Debian Members, I
would like to call for a vote about issuing a Debian public statement regarding
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