On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 10:09:48 +
Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 10:12:47PM -0500, Michael Lustfield wrote:
> > Choice X:
> >
> > The Debian Project disapproves of recent and past actions taken by FSF. With
> > regards to the latest action (re-acceptance of RMS to the board),
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 10:12:47PM -0500, Michael Lustfield wrote:
> Choice X:
>
> The Debian Project disapproves of recent and past actions taken by FSF. With
> regards to the latest action (re-acceptance of RMS to the board), it now
> chooses to cut ties with the foundation. The Debian Project
It bothers me to comment on this at all, but... I would like to propose the
following resolution.
Choice X:
The Debian Project disapproves of recent and past actions taken by FSF. With
regards to the latest action (re-acceptance of RMS to the board), it now
chooses to cut ties with the
* Russ Allbery:
> Sruthi Chandran writes:
>
>> I have an alternate suggestion. Instead of signing the said letter,
>> Debian can issue a position statement similar to the one released by FSF
>> Europe. [1]
>
>> Will share the amended text if this idea has supporters.
>
>> [1]
Many things have already been said, I'm not going to comment on them.
There is however a particular sentence that gives me a really sour
stomach. It's the second in:
| We urge those in a position to do so to stop supporting the Free Software
| Foundation. Refuse to contribute to projects
Quoting Antoine Beaupré (2021-03-25 20:13:42)
> On 2021-03-25 19:13:09, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > I dislike the conclusive judgemental framing of the previously
> > referenced open letter, and consider it wrong for Debian as an
> > organisation to make direct demands on how other organisations
On 26/03/21 2:00 am, Sam Hartman wrote:
>> "Sruthi" == Sruthi Chandran writes:
> Sruthi> I propose that instead of signing the said letter, Debian
> Sruthi> issue a position statement. The text of the statement is
> Sruthi> adapted from the statements by FSFE and EFF.
>
>
> "Sruthi" == Sruthi Chandran writes:
Sruthi> I propose that instead of signing the said letter, Debian
Sruthi> issue a position statement. The text of the statement is
Sruthi> adapted from the statements by FSFE and EFF.
Sruthi> Text of GR
Sruthi> Release a
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On 26/03/21 12:47 am, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Sruthi Chandran writes:
>
>> I have an alternate suggestion. Instead of signing the said letter,
>> Debian can issue a position statement similar to the one released by FSF
>> Europe. [1]
>
>> Will
D'oh!
Due to cascading failures, I had to clearsign to get around some GMail
issues I've been having. It looks to have line wrapped me, I've attached
the content from above.
Additionally, my key expired, I've pushed an updated key to the
keyservers, as well as Debian's. I thought I did this
Sruthi Chandran writes:
> On March 25, 2021 2:24:16 AM GMT+05:30, Steve Langasek
> wrote:
>>Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the
>>body
>>who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
>>
On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 03:19:19PM -0400, Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote:
> D'oh!
>
> Due to cascading failures, I had to clearsign to get around some GMail
> issues I've been having. It looks to have line wrapped me, I've attached
> the content from above.
>
> Additionally, my key expired, I've
On 2021-03-25 19:13:09, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> I dislike the conclusive judgemental framing of the previously
> referenced open letter, and consider it wrong for Debian as an
> organisation to make direct demands on how other organisations should
> conduct its business. I certainly would
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:37:26PM +0100, Sylvestre Ledru wrote:
> Seconded
I get a:
*BAD* signature from: Sylvestre Ledru
aka: Sylvestre Ledru
aka: Sylvestre Ledru
aka: Sylvestre Ledru
aka: Sylvestre Ledru
Sruthi Chandran writes:
> I have an alternate suggestion. Instead of signing the said letter,
> Debian can issue a position statement similar to the one released by FSF
> Europe. [1]
> Will share the amended text if this idea has supporters.
> [1]
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 05:13:28PM -0400, Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote:
> > Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the body
> > who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
> >
> >
> https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io/blob/main/index.md
> >
Jonas Smedegaard writes:
> Quoting Sruthi Chandran (2021-03-25 18:29:32)
>>
>>
>> On March 25, 2021 2:24:16 AM GMT+05:30, Steve Langasek
>> wrote:
>> >Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the
>> >body who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
>> >
>>
Quoting Sruthi Chandran (2021-03-25 18:29:32)
>
>
> On March 25, 2021 2:24:16 AM GMT+05:30, Steve Langasek
> wrote:
> >Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the
> >body who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
> >
>
On March 25, 2021 2:24:16 AM GMT+05:30, Steve Langasek
wrote:
>Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the
>body
>who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
>
>https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io/blob/main/index.md
>is a statement
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 11:25:19PM +0100, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> Can't you just express your opinion by yourself, by signing the letter?
I'm with Thomas on this.
Dear project secretary
On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 13:54:16 -0700
Steve Langasek wrote:
> Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the
> body who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
Due to the timeliness of this GR, please reduce the discussion period
for this GR to
On 3/24/21 10:00 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the body
> who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
>
> https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io/blob/main/index.md
> is a statement which I believe Debian
Confirmed.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 5:33 PM Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:16:44PM +0100, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 01:54:16PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote :
> > > Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the
> body
> > > who
On 16082 March 1977, Steve Langasek wrote:
I accept an amendment to include the word "board" (which was missed on
accident by me) and would ask the seconders to confirm their
acceptance of
this amendment so we can avoid any unnecessary extra variations on the
GR
ballot.
Confirmed.
--
bye,
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Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the body
who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io/blob/main/index.md
is a statement which I believe Debian as a
On 24/03/2021 21:33, Steve Langasek wrote:
> I accept an amendment to include the word "board" (which was missed on
> accident by me) and would ask the seconders to confirm their acceptance of
> this amendment so we can avoid any unnecessary extra variations on the GR
> ballot.
amendment also
On 2021-03-24 17 h 33, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:16:44PM +0100, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 01:54:16PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote :
>>> Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the body
>>> who has the power to issue
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 02:33:19PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
>On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:16:44PM +0100, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote:
>
>> Seconded.
>
>> (I'll also second an amended text with s/FSF/FSF board/ or equivalent
>> correction)
>
>I accept an amendment to include the word "board" (which
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 10:16:44PM +0100, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 01:54:16PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote :
> > Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the body
> > who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
> >
> >
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> Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the body
> who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
>
>
https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io/blob/main/index.md
> is a statement which I believe
On 24/03/2021 20:54, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the body
> who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
>
> https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io/blob/main/index.md
> is a statement which I believe Debian
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 01:54:16PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote :
> Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the body
> who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
>
> https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io/blob/main/index.md
> is a statement
> "Steve" == Steve Langasek writes:
Steve> Text of GR
Steve> The Debian Project co-signs the statement regarding Richard
Steve> Stallman's readmission to the FSF seen at
Steve>
https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io/blob/main/index.md.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 01:54:16PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
>Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the body
>who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
>
>https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io/blob/main/index.md
>is a statement which I
Please, as a previous vote runner, can we only have 5 seconders rather
than the (currently) 82 DDs who have signed it so far?
On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 01:54:16PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Text of GR
>
> The Debian Project co-signs the statement regarding Richard Stallman's
>
On 16082 March 1977, Steve Langasek wrote:
Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the
body
who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io/blob/main/index.md
is a statement which I believe Debian as a
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On 2021-03-24 16 h 54, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the body
> who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
>
>
Under 4.1.5 of the Constitution, the developers by way of GR are the body
who has the power to issue nontechnical statements.
https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io/blob/main/index.md
is a statement which I believe Debian as a project, and not just individual
Debian
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