[Debtags-devel] Re: spam in wiki.debian.net

2005-09-13 Thread Benjamin Mesing
http://wiki.debian.net/?spamInWikiPages http://wiki.debian.net/?DealingWithSpam After having read this - wouldn't it be easier to report the user doing the spamming, and simply reverting all changes done by this user (probably the users spamming will not have add valuable content)? Who is in

Re: [Debtags-devel] New web interface

2005-11-14 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, I think the idea is a good one - it might even work in practice :-). I've tried a search starting with package, email and browser. Package was a total failure (I wanted tools dealing with packages). Try it now. The search was case-sensitive, now I have made it insensitive.

[Debtags-devel] devel facet suggestions and text thoughts

2005-11-15 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, having used debtags-edit for real the first time today I've stumbled over some issues. Could someone please add a devel::modelling tag (for UML and everything es out there)? What is the meaning of Tag: devel::editor Description: Software development editor Does

Re: [Debtags-devel] devel facet suggestions and text thoughts

2005-11-16 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello What is the meaning of Tag: devel::editor Description: Software development editor Does this include everything used for editing in SW development? That would equal to use::editing. Or does it work for source code editors only (as opposed to e.g. UML editing).

Re: [Debtags-devel] wiki.debian.org/DebTaggingGuidelines is alive!

2005-11-17 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, I've just added the content of Enrico's email Tips collected while approving LOTS of tags from Oct. 28. And the URL is: wiki.debian.org/DebTaggingGuidelines Thanks for the setup Ben ___ Debtags-devel mailing list

Re: [Debtags-devel] New [related] link in search.cgi

2005-11-18 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, What he was doing was searching the package name instead of keywords; that would indeed match the package at least, bring the package's tags in the 'Wanted' taglist and show other packages with same tags. This sounds like what is referred to as related search to me (with a distance of

Re: [Debtags-devel] [RFC] mailing list organisation

2005-11-25 Thread Benjamin Mesing
PS: Maybe we should add faceted system to the mailing lists and all posts should be tagged appropriately /joking. Parse Error: Closing tag which was not opened at line 43 :-P Ben ___ Debtags-devel mailing list

Re: Finally, tags for FireFox!

2005-12-06 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello http://www.arches.uga.edu/~dripfeed/bookmarktags/ Cool. But the guy seems not to use use libtagcoll - I see no facets there. Someone to convert :-) Btw. yesterday I thought about a tagged filesystem. Not this database stuff everyone is coming up with now. But wouldn't a real file system

Undefined Symbol error

2005-12-10 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, I think I've trouble with debtags again. Probably it is libapt-front. I got the following unresolved symbol when dynamicall loading the debtags-plugin for packagesearch: Dynamic Library error: plugins/libdebtagsplugin.so: undefined symbol: _Z13URItoFileNameSs Any ideas? Best regards Ben

The haunting role::software:{application, utility} distinction

2005-12-16 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, I have discovered, that people tagging their application still are not doing well on agreeing on a common definition of the application and utility tags. Examples I was able to find in a short period of time, where I would judge the packages similiar in their complexity, but tagged

Re: nitpicking about a couple of ML like languages (caseness and the heck)

2006-02-02 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, I'd rather go Tag: devel::lang:ocaml Description: Objective Caml Development rather than Description: OCaml Development Searching tags for ocaml will still find it, because debtags searches Tag: field as well as Description: field. Any suggestion? I'd say we go with the

Re: PROPOSAL: debian/control file to include new License: field

2006-02-21 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Note that there was a discussion using debtags for license information on debtags-devel/debian-legal. http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/06/msg00016.html is a good starting point. Personally I believe, that if such an information should be available, debtags is more suitable to express

Re: New on-disk index

2006-02-21 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, looks pretty cool. I'm looking forward to seeing the performance improvments in the end user applications :-) output18910ms 7740ms50ms What does this output? Only the package names and the tags, or also the package information?

Re: [PROPOSAL] Re: What tags first?

2006-03-17 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Still to be done. It can be a good opportunity for revamping the autotagger. Which in turn is an easy package to maintain if someone is interested. Does this include upstream maintenance? Ben ___ Debtags-devel mailing list

Re: New facet proposal

2006-05-10 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello Jesus Climent just proposed me a new facet for debian-specific tags, such as package is debian native or package is orphaned. This would be useful at least to Debian developers, and the orphaned part also to others. So, to start it can be like this: Facet: debian Description:

Re: Finding tags with discriminating property

2006-05-16 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, 1) take a list of packages 2) find 2 the best selections of tags A and B that approximate that ~50% of the packages have tag A and ~50% of the packages have tag B 3) present the user the choice Do you want A or B? 4) weed out the half of the list that the user doesn't want

Re: Finding tags with discriminating property

2006-05-16 Thread Benjamin Mesing
The question is, if it is possible at all. Especially so, since every package must be contained in at least A or B, being in both won't hurt much, but being only in one would be bad. The last part must read: but being in none would be bad. Sorry for the confusion, Ben

Re: Google Summer of Code

2006-06-01 Thread Benjamin Mesing
[past experience] One problem I had when I tried to use dbacl to review tags is that in dbacl the size of the training data matters a lot. This was a problem because the package data for {all packages with tag A} is usually much smaller than the package data for {all packages without tag

Re: Package management usability project

2006-10-02 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, first of all, sorry for the late reply.. I'm studying informatics and for my thesis, I want to do research on usability of application installer user interfaces for Debian, targeted towards non-expert users. My plan is to analyze current users' use of and expectations for an

use::comparing/diffing

2006-10-09 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, do we need a use::comparing or use::diffing tag? I could find an appropriate use tag for diff and friends. Best regards Ben ___ Debtags-devel mailing list Debtags-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org

Re: Tags from www.iterating.org

2006-11-02 Thread Benjamin Mesing
On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 21:15 +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: Hello, Exciting good news: http://www.iterating.org/ is providing a tag source for software ratings! Very cool, finally some nicely accessible rating :-) I need some time to work on packagesearch! What is the license of the data generated

Re: Some questions about Debtags

2006-11-08 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, Anyway, this documentations seems to be a bit out of date: in my understanding, the correct tag to tell a program is written in C is implemented-in::c, and at least debtags-edit seems to agree with me. Quoting Enrico's email from from july: Begin me and mornfall had a long

Re: Please support experimental in the web tagger

2006-11-28 Thread Benjamin Mesing
I'd love to see support for experimental-only packages in the tagger, so that people can tag packages there without needing to wait until they hit the wider audience of unstable. Agreed. We also need a way to tag packages in the process of packaging. Otherwise we will never get people to tag

Re: Added tag uitoolkit::xlib

2006-12-03 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Tag: uitoolkit::xlib Description: X library Now things are getting insane, no offense :-) We have four library tags already: Tag: devel::library Description: Libraries Tag: role::devel-lib Description: Development Library Tag:

Re: Added tag uitoolkit::xlib

2006-12-03 Thread Benjamin Mesing
On Sun, 2006-12-03 at 19:44 +, Enrico Zini wrote: On Sun, Dec 03, 2006 at 08:35:21PM +0100, Benjamin Mesing wrote: We have four library tags already: Tag: devel::library Description: Libraries Tag: role::devel-lib Description: Development Library

Re: role:: questions

2006-12-30 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, all statements made below represent my personal opinion, rather than absolute answers. To keep answers short I spared the I believe.. phrases. * gcc exists as a sort of escalator dependency package to keep whatever-C-compiler-is-currently-default installed, but it isn't empty - it

Versioned tag information

2007-02-04 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, here is an idea I came up with, when thinking about the discussion of different tag sets for different releases (thanks Justin for bringing it up!). The idea is somewhat borrowed from versioned bugs. If a tag is added to a package, the tag is submitted together with the version

Re: New tags for biology and medicine.

2007-09-04 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, I believe it is past time to react to this proposal, we don't want to be seen as some kind of black hole, everything that goes in never comes out. And since I have some spare time at hand, I will make a start. Generally speaking the proposed tags are relativly detailed. I believe this

Re: New tags for biology and medicine.

2007-09-05 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello Thus we need to decide, if those details should become part of the main vocabulary database. Well, I don't think that we should make a harsh difference compared to the main vocabulary database. Considering the effect of a less fine grained tagging: People will be presented a list

Re: New tags for biology and medicine.

2007-09-06 Thread Benjamin Mesing
On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 09:11 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Benjamin Mesing wrote: We had a short discussion on IRC about your proposal, and as far as we are concerned, Option 2. would be Ok for us (obviously Option 1. would also be ok, since we wouldn't have anything

Re: New tags for biology and medicine.

2007-09-06 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 20:30 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Dear all, I was a bit lazily waiting for the conversation to settle before trying to aswer :) +Tag: field::biology:bioinformatics +Tag: field::biology:molecular +Tag: field::biology:structural This is probably a

Committed tags for debian-med

2007-09-14 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, today I have commit the tags based on the suggested patch provided by the debian-med project. The diff is appended at the end of the e-mail. The changes should hit the main vocabulary in a day or two. Regards Ben Index: debian-packages

Re: Recent debtags news

2007-09-19 Thread Benjamin Mesing
There are messages proposing many more tags, including a very long list of suggestions i got from Justin at Debconf, that I still need to go through. The process of adding tags might need some improvement. Would it make sense to open a bug on the 'debtags' package for every single one

Re: use::checking description

2007-10-04 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Here's a simple patch which adds a description to use::checking. The verb checking is a very vague verb and many activities could be described as checking, but most of the packages I saw with this tag fit a very specific concept. This is my attempt to put the concept into words. Is this the

Re: Why is GLib tagged uitoolkit::gtk?

2008-02-26 Thread Benjamin Mesing
On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 11:32 +0100, Andrea Bolognani wrote: I just noticed libglib2.0-0 is tagged with uitoolkit::gtk, and it doesn't really make sense to me. GLib is used by GTK+, but it doesn't make use of GTK+ itself, so I don't think the tag is correct for this package. You are absolutly

Re: Links to packages with certain tags

2008-07-09 Thread Benjamin Mesing
I note also that if I enter physics, I get field::physics and implemented-in::fortran in the wanted section. I find this slightly surprising. I' believe Enrico has implemented some magic, that derives the tags listed when searching the vocabulary (list of tags) by performing a full text

x11::xserver

2009-05-02 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello, I am wondering what an x11::xserver is. Should xserver-xorg-video-* have this tag? Should xserver-xorg-input-*? Current state of tagging is inconsistent (e.g. -vesa has x11::xserver, -nv does not). Best regards Ben ___ Debtags-devel

Re: x11::xserver

2009-05-03 Thread Benjamin Mesing
On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 12:27 +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 07:34:25AM +0200, Benjamin Mesing wrote: I am wondering what an x11::xserver is. Should xserver-xorg-video-* have this tag? Should xserver-xorg-input-*? Current state of tagging is inconsistent (e.g. -vesa

Re: x11::xserver

2009-05-07 Thread Benjamin Mesing
I'd say that x11::xserver is a package providing an X server, that is, something that X clients can connect to. I guess that covers whatever gives us /usr/bin/X, xnest, xephyr and probably not many others. Which would fail our minimum package count requirement for a tag. However, for

Re: x11::xserver

2009-05-11 Thread Benjamin Mesing
If there are no objections in the next couple of days, I am going to modify the vocabulary accordingly (i.e. x11::xserver gets the short description X Server and Drivers, long description X servers and drivers for the X server (input and video)) and perform the neccessary tagging to reach a

Re: Fwd: Vocabulary browser

2010-02-21 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Nice work :) 2010/2/13 Jesse Weinstein je...@wefu.org: When you click on a second-level menu item, it turns bold, and a third-level menu opens up, with the name, and a description (if there is one). The bug happens when you then click on the third-level item. With the first click, the

Re: Fwd: Vocabulary browser

2010-02-28 Thread Benjamin Mesing
On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 16:00 -0300, Tássia Camões wrote: 2010/2/21 Benjamin Mesing bensm...@gmx.net: Btw. I kinda like the idea of a close button (i.e. an [x]). Otherwise there is no way to get a clean view of the facets after opening one except for F5. Thought jumping to the top of the page

Re: libept-based Popcon-access

2010-02-28 Thread Benjamin Mesing
. Can you give me a pointer to applications using xapian for debtags without libept (is debtags already ported)? Are there any porting hints available? Best regards Ben On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 22:32 +, Enrico Zini wrote: On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 09:48:48PM +0100, Benjamin Mesing wrote: I

Re: Refactoring the vocabulary

2010-03-24 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hi, while there is a point to the fact, that some facets could be more or less covered by other facets (like office, which IMO is more like a purpose classification), I think they still serve their purpose. I believe those facets still describe a useful concept. Besides where would you draw

Re: New field for computer science / programming?

2013-06-09 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hi Peter, [Daniel Hartwig] Computer science, perhaps with programming as a subfield. Do you have some idea how many packages would use programming? Should I do anything more than bringing it up on this list to get new fields added? No, that should be sufficient - please prod again, if

Re: Debtags for defining the minimal age that a program can generally be used

2013-09-21 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hi, as a semi-active member of the debtags project I am more involved in the technical side. But generally I like your idea. I would suggest to add those tags to the junior:: facet. I would also suggest to limit the age-classification not to games but generally to software targeted for kids

Removal of tags

2013-11-03 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hi, I want to remove the tag suite::xmms from the vocabulary. It is only used by a single package. Can I simply remove the tag from the debtags-vocabulary/debian-package file? What are the implication of such a removal, how will packages still having this tag be handled? Best regards Ben

Broken links on Debtags Wiki page

2014-03-13 Thread Benjamin Mesing
[forwarded on behalf of Simon Kainz si...@familiekainz.at] Hello! On at least https://wiki.debian.org/Debtags and https://wiki.debian.org/Debtags/FAQ#What_is_Debtags.3F the links to vocabulary ( http://debtags.alioth.debian.org/vocabulary ) are not working (= 404) Just to let someone know.

Tags in firmware packages

2014-03-13 Thread Benjamin Mesing
[Forwarded on behalf of s3v c0llap...@yahoo.it - sorry for the delay] Hi, can you add a facet (role::firmware? hardware:firmware? Something else?) for tagging the firmware packages in free-non-free-contrib areas? e.g. $ debtags search role::firmware atmel-firmware .. bluez-firmware ..

Re: Broken links on Debtags Wiki page

2014-03-15 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Thanks for the hint, I have fixed the links to point to the up-to-date vocabulary in SVN. Best regards Ben On Thu, 2014-03-13 at 21:16 +0100, Benjamin Mesing wrote: [forwarded on behalf of Simon Kainz si...@familiekainz.at] Hello! On at least https://wiki.debian.org/Debtags and https

Re: Tags in firmware packages

2014-03-15 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hi, I doubt debtags is a good way to locate firmware. :) It may not be the best way to locate firmware, but debtags is one of the main search interfaces to the user, and I consider it a valid use case to search for firmware e.g. to get your hardware working. I've taken the time to look at how

Where is the vocabulary being maintained?

2014-08-05 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hi Enrico, today I wanted to update the tag vocabulary. When trying to update my vocabulary I get: svn up Updating '.': svn: E210002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL 'svn +ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/debtags/vocabulary/trunk' svn: E210002: To

Interface::x11 vs X11::application

2014-08-06 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hi, one thing that has always confused me is, that we have those two tags. To me it seems that X11::application should be dropped in favour of interface::x11. Any objections? Could we autoapply packages interface::x11 with X11::application. Btw. at one point interface::X11 should be changed to

Re: Auto-discard notification

2014-08-06 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hi Stéphane, sorry for the delay. I have added implemented-in::pascal which should become visible in the debtags editor in the next few days. Best regards Benjamin --- Hello, Can You add implemented-in::pascal tag please ? All fp,

Re: Interface::x11 vs X11::application

2015-06-08 Thread Benjamin Mesing
[@Enrico] Please reply to this message, the other was sent from the wrong adress I thought of a trick that can help with renaming tags: 1. Add the new tag to the vocabulary, wait a day for the site to pick it up. 2. Add the new tag to all packages that have the old tag: $ wget

Re: Tagging new software. Proposing new tags, and some misc doubts

2015-06-05 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hi Laura, One package is auralquiz which is a music quiz game that scans a users selected folder of music and creates a quiz using the tags from the audio files. We couldn't find a suitable game::xxx tag, and we suggest game::quiz I agree, that there is no suitable game tag, and probably

Re: Package error installing debtags

2015-08-19 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hi Rob, thanks for the information, you should probably file a bug against the debtags-package. Regards Ben On Sat, 2015-08-08 at 07:53 +1000, rob stone wrote: Whilst updating (via synaptic) it fails to complete the installation of debtags. If needed I could take a screen shot of the error

Re: Libept .tcc-Files removed

2015-09-07 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Ok, thanks. I will prepare an update of packagesearch. Regards Ben On Sun, 2015-09-06 at 22:24 +0200, Enrico Zini wrote: > On Sun, Sep 06, 2015 at 09:17:14PM +0200, Benjamin Mesing wrote: > > > libept-dev no longer contains the tcc-files (and therefore packagesearch > > FTBS