[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2022-03-30 Thread Tim Wetzel
Two points -Have not been able to find a combination of logind parameters that avoids this issue. -Have also found that this problem is not limited to HDMI connection. It has also now appeared on a T480 in UltraDock using DP++ connection to external display. Again, the external display is the

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2022-03-07 Thread Tim Wetzel
Shadrin, I tried that... removed the # from the start of that line so it was set to ignore. It had no effect. I notice that there is another parameter LidSwitchIgnoreInhibited. That is set to yes. What is the function of that parameter, do you know? Thanks... AND I CONCUR: Please correct this

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2022-02-21 Thread Tim Wetzel
New wrinkle: over the weekend on startup (from full shutdown), in dock, lid down with HDMI monitor and external keyboard and mouse, got to the Ubuntu login and put in the password. Was waiting for this suspend bug to appear. Instead: got a Linux error as follows at the point where this bug

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2022-02-19 Thread Tim Wetzel
New wrinkle: today on startup (from full shutdown), in dock, lid down with HDMI monitor and external keyboard and mouse, got to the Ubuntu login and put in the password. Was waiting for this suspend bug to appear. Instead: got a Linux error as follows at the point where this bug typically

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2022-02-10 Thread Tim Wetzel
Yes, this is still a problem. Please see post #5 above and /bugs/1897185 where I posted earlier information. As noted by fchen, this started with Ubuntu updates and has been a problem ever since, though I started seeing it months ago. PLEASE fix this. Thanks. -- You received this bug

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2021-05-29 Thread Tim Wetzel
Just want to remind us that this was NOT AN ISSUE UNTIL after the September 2020 Ubuntu 20.04 updates that included the updates to 20.04.1. Therefore I have trouble with dismissing it as a known, unaddressed hardware issue. If so, why did it work fine prior to those updates? No: there were several

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2021-05-29 Thread Tim Wetzel
See comment #5 above. Yes, the nVidia driver may appear to be a common denominator BUT... I've seen the issue trigger apparently due to other things loading as opposed to nVidia's third party driver, so it may not be anything in the nVidia driver per se. The occurrences due to other utilities

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2021-05-03 Thread Tim Wetzel
Agree that this is a serious issue. Like EAB, each of our setups remains constant: same laptop, dock, display, etc. This issue continues to recur probably 11 out of 12 startups when docked lid down. Notably, I have almost never seen it when the laptop is running standalone (out of the dock). Note

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2021-03-22 Thread Tim Wetzel
On our systems, T480 and T570's, this issue continues to occur EVERY STARTUP when the machine is run in the UltraDock, lid down using and external HDMI display as primary. Sometimes it is possible to bump the dock power again to restart it (and then it goes to the desktop WITHOUT any password

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2021-01-11 Thread Tim Wetzel
Johan and also iMac, thank you... I was trying to see whether this issue correlated with the type of cable between the dock and the external display; but obviously not since we're seeing it with both HDMI and DP. I'm not suggesting that a particular item such as the Dropbox app, Logitech USB

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2021-01-10 Thread Tim Wetzel
Johan, is the external monitor connected to the dock with an HDMI cable? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to mutter in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1841826 Title: Going to sleep instead of logging in while

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2020-12-11 Thread Tim Wetzel
Three additional points: -This occurs with ONE external HDMI monitor connected to the dock and running as the primary display. Need not be multi-monitor. All cases I've seen involve one external monitor. -I put log information in the notes for 1897185 to show the events that preceded the

[Bug 1841826] Re: Going to sleep instead of logging in while lid closed & external display

2020-12-11 Thread Tim Wetzel
A few things that may help with this, these were noted under bug 1897185. In looking at logs when this occurred (observed on ThinkPads including T440s, T570, T480 all docked and running lid-down with external display, keyboard, etc); this behavior occurred when: -using a third-party nVidia

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-12-05 Thread Tim Wetzel
Another wrinkle since this week's kernel update in 20.04.1 (from 5.4.0.54.57 to 5.4.0.56.59: on every second or third startup in the UltraDock and with the external HDMI display as primary (which is where this suspend on login password problem occurs), the system now goes into never-never land

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-11-30 Thread Tim Wetzel
This bug remains, and exhibits with every startup in the T570's UltraDock. Likewise, this bug has exhibited on every system here (all ThinkPads) when in their respective UltraDocks. This includes a T480, which is a current machine based on the i7-8xxx chipset. -- You received this bug

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-11-14 Thread Tim Wetzel
Update: this is still acting up, even after the kernel update and Intel microcode updates of Nov 11 and Nov 12 respectively. Given those updates, I tested to see whether this bug is still there. Unfortunately, it is. This is a ThinkPad T570, docked, using external HDMI display (via the dock) as

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-11-10 Thread Tim Wetzel
Daniel, of course. My point was that I've now seen multiple occurrences where this suspend on login bug, as it continues to occur on a given system, causes Ubuntu to become less and less stable over time. Unfortunately that impact has become predictable at least on the machines here. So to me,

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-11-09 Thread Tim Wetzel
This bug is destabilizing the main Ubuntu system here again. Gnome shell has begun to crash. Latest cold start once again went into suspend as soon as the login password was entered. Lines immediately before suspending were: Stopped target Main User Target A connection to the bus can't be made

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-11-04 Thread Tim Wetzel
This may also help: I'm testing the fix for bug 1872159 (spinning logo hang on startup). It seems to be working. So, since the rendering of the nVidia driver is superior to the x.org driver, I switched for the generic x.org back to nVidia's latest 450 version for the T570's GeForce 940MX. Well:

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-10-31 Thread Tim Wetzel
Another system failed under 20.04.1: A T480 that hadn't been used for a while, set up dual boot Ubuntu 20.04 and Win 10. Ubuntu had updates waiting including the 20.04.1 updates from several weeks ago. As soon as that installed and the system was restarted, malfunctions began. The system was

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-10-27 Thread Tim Wetzel
Daniel, this seems consistent: so long as I don't load the Dropbox app, I haven't seen the suspend. I don't know if this is the cause but regardless the Dropbox app may help in reproducing this issue? Thanks... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-10-23 Thread Tim Wetzel
Daniel, thanks; looks like there IS something with the Dropbox app going on as one triggers of this. I changed the Dropbox properties so that Dropbox does not automatically start; turned off Dropbox sync; and turned off the Dropbox app. Shut down the system. When I started the system, it did

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-10-22 Thread Tim Wetzel
Looking through the logs... Seeing "Suspending" from systemd-logind this morning. The line immediately before (below) that is dropbox: load fq extention '/home/tim/.dropbox-dist/dropbox-lnx.x86_64-108.4.453/psutil._psutil_posi The lines immediately after (above) the suspending line are

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-10-22 Thread Tim Wetzel
Posted this detail upstream at Plymouth in hopes it may help: So I did 3 things yesterday: I applied all Ubuntu Updates; turned the splash screen back on; and reverted from the third-party nVidia drivers back to the open source driver. Then rebooted. This was the first time in a month that I

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-10-22 Thread Tim Wetzel
Daniel, you're right: it just happened again. Suspended as soon as I put in the login password. Uh- oh! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is subscribed to mutter in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1897185 Title: Laptop docked

[Bug 1897185] Re: Laptop docked with lid closed, goes to sleep immediately on login

2020-10-21 Thread Tim Wetzel
NOTE that I'm not seeing this since today's fix for 1872159 (the spinning logo splash hang on startup). Are these related? Something has changed; but I'm not sure whether it's truly fixed? Thanks... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Desktop Bugs, which is

[Bug 1872159] Re: Boot animation never finishes when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected

2020-10-20 Thread Tim Wetzel
I noted this new comment: "I am used to having such problems with Nvidia graphics is involved, but this is not the case on this laptop. It has been happily running 18.04." In my case, I'm seeing this on machines that have been running *LTS 20.04* just fine UNTIL the updates to 20.04.1 started

[Bug 1900057] Re: ThinkPad T400 sleeps immediately after login in Xorg sessions, but not Wayland

2020-10-19 Thread Tim Wetzel
Daniel, please see also bug #1897185. Quite similar. And when I searched for information on the suspend on login password problem, I also found #1481442, 1589593, and 1626689 which *may* be related. I see this on Thinkpad T570 in a mechanical dock with external HDMI display and external USB

[Bug 1872159] Re: Boot animation never finishes when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected

2020-10-13 Thread Tim Wetzel
OK: I created a login at Plymouth and added comments to "bump" their bug: Booting hangs when external monitors are connected Also noted the seriousness of this and the question of whether it has corrupted T440s BIOS. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu

[Bug 1872159] Re: Boot animation never finishes when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected

2020-10-10 Thread Tim Wetzel
Thanks James. My configuration is different: the laptops in question are in mechanical docks. The laptop remains closed (lid down); external display is connected to the dock via HDMI, external keyboard and mouse are also connected to the dock via USB dongle in the dock. So I can't start them and

[Bug 1872159] Re: Boot animation never finishes when external monitors (or just more than one) are connected

2020-10-10 Thread Tim Wetzel
Well, that answers something I've wondered: this DOES affect the T480 (full Thunderbolt) chipset. I've seen it on T570; I've seen it reported on T470; and I've also seen it on T440s. Again, this is one of FOUR serious bugs that I've seen pop up since the Ubuntu updates starting around September 12

[Bug 1872159] Re: booting with splash hangs when external monitors are connected

2020-10-07 Thread Tim Wetzel
Sebastien, I'm new to Ubuntu so I may not be looking in the right place... but I couldn't find much in the logs. There was no crash, no error, just... nothing. Only option was a forced power down. I could find the point where I restarted it in the logs, but nothing else seemed remarkable. And that

[Bug 1872159] Re: booting with splash hangs when external monitors are connected

2020-10-06 Thread Tim Wetzel
In my experience, the bug occurs when a ThinkPad is in its Ultra Dock and is run, lid closed, using external display, keyboard, and mouse. Bug #1888695 refers to a direct connection of an external monitor to the laptop's own HDMI port. Thus the configuration is not the same. The cause may be

[Bug 1872159] Re: booting with splash hangs when external monitors are connected

2020-10-02 Thread Tim Wetzel
This bug recurred with the last two 20.04 Updater packages, starting mid-September. The initramfs upacking bug 1835660 recurred about the same time. Turning off the Ubuntu splash screen seems to avoid the problem, but when it doesn't (or until you realize that you have to make that change); the