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Context menu for a USB pendrive shows Unmount,
The problem I have with a USB drive is the confusion between Safely
Remove Drive and Eject, with only the latter option working. The
Safely Remove Drive just produces a weird error message.
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@pitti
I know why one would want to unmount or safely remove a CD drive: Not all CD
drives are CD-ROM drives; some are burners with a rewritable disc mounted in
packet writing mode. But I'll admit that packet writing becomes less common as
USB flash drives and SD card slots become more common.
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USB-drives shouldn't have their own trash-can. Users know of ONE trashcan, and
thats the one they will go look in first.
To the user, the USB-drive is just a folder (that happens to be placed on an
external device). Would one want every folder on the harddrive to have its own
trash too?
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@loldrup
USB drives have trash cans because moving a file within a drive is much faster
than moving a file between drives. When moving a file within a drive, all that
changes is the file name and the file is not touched. Deleting a file removes
the reference to the file but again, the file
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Right now, i think unmount is the best option, Kamereon has true:
The only way I know to really free this space on an external drive is to use
'unmount'. On 'unmount' Nautilus will ask me if i want to delete the trash.
'safely remove' and 'eject' will not do that.
So I think that even the most
@aloisam
What one has to do with another? Trash icon doesn't get properly updated and
that's why users need umount? That's just ridiculous. Users need Trash icon to
properly reflect Trash contents and that's all. Not everyone wants to empty
their Trash on disconnecting the drive so Ubuntu
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Should this also be applied to Volumes section of the netbook edition?
Currently a right click on a removable drive in this section on UNE only
gives unmount as an option.
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You
Michał Gołębiowski [2010-03-31 16:56 -]:
Who in the world will want to actually remove the CD-ROM drive? AFAIK
it would cause the drive to be unusable until a reboot so I cannot think
who would really want anything like that...
Well, I do that, but indeed for CD-ROMs you can just yank the
In the case of external media, can we just show Eject instead of Eject
and Safely Remove? I don't think users will be confused if they Eject
their USB key and the port doesn't spit the key out :)
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David Siegel [2010-03-31 8:42 -]:
In the case of external media, can we just show Eject instead of Eject
and Safely Remove? I don't think users will be confused if they Eject
their USB key and the port doesn't spit the key out :)
We should just show Safely Remove, since technically you
I wouldn't worry that you can't technically Eject a USB stick. If the user
only sees Eject, will the user think technically I cannot eject a USB
device because the USB port lacks the mechanism to forcefully remove the
occupying plug, so I am not sure what to do at this point. Or, will the
user be
For devices which actually have removable media, we still need both,
though. It's a difference whether you want to eject the media in a
drive, or disconnect the drive (for CD-ROMs, card readers, cameras,
etc.)
The upstream bug has some detailled information why we can't just use
safe removal by
@Martin Pitt
It's a difference whether you want to eject the media in a
drive, or disconnect the drive (for CD-ROMs, card readers,
cameras, etc.)
Who in the world will want to actually remove the CD-ROM drive? AFAIK
it would cause the drive to be unusable until a reboot so I cannot think
who
@ Michal
I believe this relates specifically to removable, external USB devices
and drives...
Ethan
2010/3/31 Michał Gołębiowski mz.go...@gmail.com:
@Martin Pitt
It's a difference whether you want to eject the media in a
drive, or disconnect the drive (for CD-ROMs, card readers,
cameras,
Patch sent to upstream bug.
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nautilus (1:2.30.0-0ubuntu3) lucid; urgency=low
* Add 16_hide_unmount.patch: Do not show Unmount when showing Eject/Safe
removal. Having three menu entries (unmount/eject/safe removal) in a
volume/drive menu entry is too confusing. Unmount only really makes sense
for internal
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Why not add an Advanced menu that has sub-items to do the other two
options? Some of us might want to unmount, but DON'T want to have to
goto the command-line every time.
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In my opinion, must be removed in the case of CD / DVD and USB stick
button Unmount because there is no need for external disks sorry but
you do not install gparted from?
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Sorry, but this bug is why background? While people are convolte forty-
four Archive manager only four!
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Importance: Low
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Status: Triaged
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CD/DVD drives should have Eject, and anything else should have
Safely Remove
Then what should a CF/SD reader have? I'm guessing eject because the
media can be removed from the drive.
Currently in 9.10, when I unmount a CF or SD card in my SanDisk
multiformat reader, the LED next to the CF or SD
I understand the difference between all the options, and use all of
them. I am still confused by the GUI. I think much of this is solvable
with pop-up dialogs. See examples:
USB flash (thumb) drive:
1. Insert/connect drive.
2. [automount]
3. Press eject
4. Drive unmounts and dialog box
i cleaned up my comment a little here:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=598690#c18
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This isn't as off-topic as it sounds:
How do I delete files off an external drive?
Let's say the drive is full. So I delete some files to make room. these
files disappear in Nautilus, but are not really gone, because I do not
get any more free space on that drive. If I use 'safely remove' or
I wonder if Unmount could be shown only if you hold SHIFT when right
clicking or can be enabled with a gconf key or something?
I've been using Ubuntu for some time (since 2005) and it's only while
reading this bug report (and the one upstream) that I understand why
there are 3 options there, I
I agree with those that think GUI should be minimal (so there are less
technical variable to manage) and should only offer options for typical
users. An advanced user can use the cli for certain operations. So, in
the specific, I think that, as Kazade sayd, it should be only shown
eject for cd/dvd
I don't think we should pursue a solution that has normal users doing
one thing and advanced users stuck with a terminal. There must be a
solution that normal users find easy to use and advanced users
appreciate.
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@David Siegel
I strongly disagree. First of all, advanced users appreciate terminal because
it's for them (e.g. for me) faster and more convenient. On the other hand,
non-technical users shouldn't touch the terminal. This itself contradicts Your
claim. Besides, I find it the best solution to
That's not what I said. Users are of course free to use the terminal if they
wish, I don't mean to prevent them from doing that; and as far as options
are concerned, moderation is always better than starvation. I just think
that applying the pattern of designing one interface for normal users and
I disagree with Michał Gołębiowski... i know the way around with the
terminal, but to say that the terminal is more convenient a priori is
simply wrong:
if we already have a place to manage the eject/umount of the devices,
with the users (all users, even advanced ones) accustomated to reach
there
Luke makes a good point. I would go even further and suggest that
unmount should not be available anywhere in Nautilus, but that
advanced users should go to Palimpsest or the terminal to unmount.
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How about special casing the Desktop context menu:
Eject for Optical Drives and Safely Remove for anything else.
Advanced users can still Unmount in the Places sidebar context menu, while
average users will (hopefully) see the eject button and not need to worry about
what Unmount means.
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After reading in Gnome-bugs I understand that the three options makes
sense, but nevertheless they confused me at first (and I take for
granted that every beginner would feel the same).
Is it possible to add some explanation, for example a 'yellow label'
showing up, when the mouse hovers over
Although upstream offers use cases, no matter how esoteric, for each of
these three apparently similar menu items, I guarantee that tooltips are
not the solution here :)
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Any progress on that one?
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you can read comments on the upstream bug which explain why those 3
options are required
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I don't think it's about any hidden partition. My pendrive doesn't have
any and I still see 3 options.
Let me write what I've written in my dup: I think only the Safely
remove... option should be left. It's the way it's done in MS Windows
XP (Vista/Seven behaves worse) and I think it's a proper
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The particular flash drive I'm using is a Sandisk Cruzer Micro with U3 Smart
Technology.
From what I've gathered these drives contain a small partition where the U3
installer is located. Now jaunty doesn't mount that partition, but Karmic
does. It shows up as a mounted CD-Rom, seperate from the
Thank you for your bug report. The issue is an upstream one and it would
be nice if somebody having it could send the bug the to the people
writting the software (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Upstream/GNOME)
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