Re: Apache Brochure/Tri-Fold?

2019-03-21 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 6:23 PM Shane Curcuru wrote: > > Kevin A. McGrail wrote on 3/21/19 8:57 PM: > > Anyone know where the source for this is at so I can print some for the > > roadshow? > > Last updated 2017, but it is a trifold brochure layout: > >

Re: Apache Brochure/Tri-Fold?

2019-03-21 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 3/21/2019 9:13 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > Kevin A. McGrail wrote on 3/21/19 8:57 PM: >> Anyone know where the source for this is at so I can print some for the >> roadshow? > Last updated 2017, but it is a trifold brochure layout: > >

Re: Apache Brochure/Tri-Fold?

2019-03-21 Thread Shane Curcuru
Kevin A. McGrail wrote on 3/21/19 8:57 PM: > Anyone know where the source for this is at so I can print some for the > roadshow? Last updated 2017, but it is a trifold brochure layout: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/marketing/brochure/ -- - Shane Director & Member The Apache

Apache Brochure/Tri-Fold?

2019-03-21 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Anyone know where the source for this is at so I can print some for the roadshow? Regards, KAM -- Kevin A. McGrail Member, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-03-21 Thread Rich Bowen
A few more hits on 'meritoc' since we use "meritocratic" some places. On 3/21/19 1:53 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: > FWIW: > > [rbowen@sasha:comdev/site]$ grep -ri meritocracy | wc -l > 4 > > So, that one's easy ... > > > [rbowen@sasha:apache/www-site]$ grep -ri meritocracy ./ | wc -l > 150 > >

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-03-21 Thread Rich Bowen
On 3/21/19 1:15 PM, Naomi Slater wrote: > > I feel like this is a good opportunity to bring up (as I have brought up > before) the fact that "meritocracy" was invented for the purposes of a > satirical *dystopian* novel. Well, maybe. I kind of find that entire line of conversation to be just

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-03-21 Thread Naomi Slater
On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 at 17:04, Rich Bowen wrote: > As alluded to, I am aware of people in our community who believe that we > have achieved this goal, and that any inference to the contrary is > crazy-making. I explicitly disagree with that stance. We have clearly > *not* achieved this goal, and

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-03-21 Thread Rich Bowen
On 3/21/19 10:51 AM, Naomi Slater wrote: > "I'm not aware of anybody (ok, fine, I am aware of one person) that thinks > that Apache has arrived at meritocratic ideals. Rather, we strive towards > them." > > that's not how we communicate it at all, in my view. here's an ASF blog > post from

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-03-21 Thread Naomi Slater
"It appears to state that because we haven't yet achieved equity, we shouldn't bother striving for it" is this in relation to the first article or the second? either way, it's not what I'm suggesting I'm not too sure how to answer your question without repeating what is said in the article. but

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-03-21 Thread Kenneth Knowles
Thanks for these links to interesting reading. These are topics I care deeply about. I'd be very interested in related analyses around specific forms or instances of open source governance. Kenn On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 6:21 AM Rich Bowen wrote: > I read the article last week when it was doing

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-03-21 Thread Rich Bowen
I read the article last week when it was doing the rounds, and I must admit I find it confusing. It appears to state that because we haven't yet achieved equity, we shouldn't bother striving for it. This seems false and harmful. I'm not aware of anybody (ok, fine, I am aware of one person) that

Re: on "meritocracy"

2019-03-21 Thread Naomi Slater
don't wanna spam the list. but here's a bit of serendipity. another piece crossed my newsfeed today https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2018/8/21/17687402/kylie-jenner-luck-human-life-moral-privilege this one is a longer read. but perhaps interesting for this list's subscribers, because

on "meritocracy"

2019-03-21 Thread Naomi Slater
this article crossed my news feed today: https://www.fastcompany.com/40510522/meritocracy-doesnt-exist-and-believing-it-does-is-bad-for-you here's a key takeaway: > [...] in companies that explicitly held meritocracy as a core value, managers assigned greater rewards to male employees over