Re: macOS 10.13 High Sierra AOO testers

2017-10-16 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Nevermind. I think I found them: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.4-RC5/binaries/ Louis On 16 October 2017 at 08:18, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Anyone onlist using High Sierra and able to test AOO > 4.1.4-RC5? > >

Re: macOS 10.13 High Sierra AOO testers

2017-10-16 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Jim, et al., So, where are the macOS builds of RC5? FWIW, finding these using the website's obvious (to me) routes is … fruitless. Finding them using my old bookmarks also bootless. Louis On 16 October 2017 at 08:18, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Anyone onlist using High Sierra and

Re: macOS 10.13 High Sierra AOO testers

2017-10-16 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
I've been playing with LibreOffice on a dev version of High Sierra (10.13.1) with no ill effects, but that was a short while ago. I can try it with AOO, but is there anything in particular I should look for? I use office suites sparingly and lightly but am game to try out a suite of tests. Note:

Re: Community building: give our User a chance to contribute!

2017-01-27 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 2017-01-27, at 14:04, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > While there was much heat, I don't think Sun was pure in this matter. Not by > any means. Whatever the case, when Apache OpenOffice was founded, it was as > an Apache Project, not any other kind. The "original"

Re: future of OpenOffice

2017-01-12 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 12 January 2017 at 18:29, Simon Phipps wrote: > S. > (speaking here only as an AOO community member) Thanks, Simon. I have long desired for there to be a useful confluence and even convergence of code, effort, vision--I mean between LO and AOO. Would still be nice, if only

Re: Meson: yet another build system

2016-12-05 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 05 Dec 2016, at 11:32, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > >> Objective C? Yacc? Cygwin? Custom compiler flags to disable C++ exception >> handling, build some files with optimizations disabled? >> >> Our build systems are not our biggest problem. Meson, or SCons, or others, >> could

Meson: yet another build system

2016-11-29 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Pedro, * Thanks for the hint. I've not tried Meson (http://mesonbuild.com/index.html) out yet and am just reading up on "Wrap",* the tech that Meson uses. BTW, "Why is it called Meson? (When the name was originally chosen, there were two main limitations: there must not exist either a Debian

Re: [VOTE] Recommend Marcus Lange (marcus) as the New Vice President for Apache OpenOffice

2016-09-16 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
+1 Louis > On 15 Sep 2016, at 11:54, Keith N. McKenna wrote: > > Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >> [BCC to PMC] >> >>RESOLUTION: That Marcus Lange (marcus) be recommended to the >>Apache Software Foundation Board to serve as Vice President >>for Apache

Re: Spelling of Ancient Greek

2016-06-29 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
louis=C2=A0 -Original Message- =46rom:=C2=A0=CE=91=CF=80=CF=8C=CF=83=CF=84=CE=BF=CE=BB=CE=BF=CF=82 =CE=A3= =CF=85=CF=81=CF=8C=CF=80=CE=BF=CF=85=CE=BB=CE=BF=CF=82

Re: Finally retiring from openoffice.org

2016-06-08 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Greetings, Oliver-Rainer! Welcome to the afterlife! :-) With fond memories--and better expectations, louis On 8 June 2016 at 13:44, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: > Hi, > > for a long time I had contributed to openoffice.org. > But since approx. 1.5 years I was not

Re: Mac Dev. Builds?

2016-02-16 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 16 Feb 16, at 12:40, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 02/16/2016 05:50 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: >> So, what's going on with the OS X dev builds? They have not been there for >> some time now. >> >> louis > > We don't

Mac Dev. Builds?

2016-02-16 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
So, what's going on with the OS X dev builds? They have not been there for some time now. louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org

Re: Going

2016-01-29 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> - Dennis > > >> -----Original Message- >> From: Louis Suárez-Potts [mailto:lui...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 10:53 >> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Going >> >> >>> On 29 Jan 16, at 12:31

Re: Going

2016-01-29 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 29 Jan 16, at 12:31, Kay Schenk wrote: > > I'm happy to see that you're still remaining on the "dev" list. ☺ I might that way help out or at least gripe entertainingly and occasionally voice the desire that users of AOO and LO be better served by not having to

Going

2016-01-28 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Apache projects…. I'll remain subscribed to this and other lists, but am leaving the PMC. You can always reach me via the usual ways. Cheers, Louis --- Louis Suárez-Potts Skype: louisiam Twitter: @luispo Personal: http://www.luispo.com/ signature.asc Description: Message signed

Re: John McCreesh

2016-01-18 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Thanks, Simon, though the news is bleak. I'll post to the Facebook page, at the least. I knew John for many years and kept in touch with him after OOo fell apart. This is brutal news, and far more for those who loved him closely. I don't think I exaggerate in saying that without his efforts,

Re: Does GPL apply when building AOO under CygWin?

2015-10-26 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi > On 26 Oct 15, at 04:47, Roman Kuksin wrote: > > Hello, > > I am currently building AOO sources with CygWin under Windows XP x86 using > this instruction: > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7 > > According to

Re: Meeting at ApacheCon

2015-10-01 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi- > On 01 Oct 2015, at 14:43, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > It seems that several of us are (or are going to be) at ApacheCon Europe > today y and tomorrow, but it's difficult to find people in the huge crowd. > > Louis suggested that we organize a meeting tomorrow morning

Re: Macs for building / testing AOO?

2015-09-30 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 29 Sep 2015, at 20:44, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > > Hi > > Do we have any Macs we can use for building and testing AOO? > > I've made some progress on a commonly reported serious regression on > MacOS (#125431), where encrypted ODF files cannot be opened with > recent

Re: Wrongful information on the Wikipedia

2015-09-16 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 16 Sep 15, at 13:56, Rob Weir wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 4:52 PM, John D'Orazio > wrote: >> Interestingly mr. David Gerard IS a moderator on Wikipedia it seems. He >> still has to abide by the rules though. And there is quite

Re: Wrongful information on the Wikipedia

2015-09-16 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 16 Sep 15, at 15:38, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > Time, gentlemen, time. > > We're far across the ad hominem boundary and it is time to let this thread go > night-night. > > Whatever is thought of about what happens on Wikipedia, it is not ASF and AOO > business.

Re: Wrongful information on the Wikipedia

2015-09-16 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
erard is enough to earn his keep, I’m sure. > > > > Am 16.09.2015 um 19:58 schrieb Louis Suárez-Potts: >>> On 16 Sep 15, at 13:56, Rob Weir <r...@robweir.com> wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 4:52 PM, John D'Orazio >>> <john.dor

Re: Slow but steady, please

2015-09-16 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi, > On 14 Sep 15, at 20:13, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > > Hi Bruce; > > I just looked a bit ... > Calligra does look nice and I see it has advanced quite nicely. > > There's probably still the issue of multi-platform support but it > is certainly refreshing to see something

Re: Google Test now in gbuild and other good news

2015-09-16 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi Damjian, > On 16 Sep 15, at 15:53, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > > Hi > > I finally managed to win a long battle against GNU make and integrate > Google Test into gbuild :-). Also updated the documentation on > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Googletest. Currently only

Re: Wrongful information on the Wikipedia

2015-09-16 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 16 Sep 15, at 17:27, Rob Weir wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton >> wrote: >>> Time, gentlemen, time. >>> >>> We're far across the ad hominem boundary

Re: AOO-Earmarked Funds

2015-09-10 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 10 Sep 15, at 01:57, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >> I notice, from time-to-time that there seem to be funds that there are >> AOO-earmarked funds that the ASF received.. > > I do not know more about this than anyone else does. It's all in

Software Freedom Day

2015-09-10 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi All, This year’s Software Freedom Day (SFD) is 25 September. (See http://softwarefreedomday.org/) We’ve usually done something for it (along with doing something to honour Document Freedom Day, in March). But I’m unsure what has been discussed this year. Thoughts? louis

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-07 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 07 Sep 15, at 12:09, Roberto Galoppini wrote: > > Agreed, and I'm really sorry I couldn't make it. In future we might want to > have a small team of people who knows how ODF Plugfests work and are > willing to attend, give a speech and run tests. I believe we

Re: Status page for OpenOffice 4.1.2

2015-09-06 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 06 Sep 15, at 14:39, Steve wrote: > >> I’m curious—perhaps someone would want to undergo the pain of comparing our >> 4.1.2 with >> LibreOffice’s 5.0.1? A task somewhat beside the point. But possibly of >> marketing use. And also a means >> by which we

Re: Status page for OpenOffice 4.1.2

2015-09-05 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Andrea, et al., Thanks! > On 05 Sep 15, at 17:08, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > I've started a status page for OpenOffice 4.1.2 at > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.2 > > It is not complete yet (for example, the Bugzilla queries are still missing,

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-05 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 05 Sep 15, at 06:49, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > For 1) we have Louis' availability but by the time everything is approved it > will be unrealistic that he can still arrange an intercontinental flight > (which is a pity since we started discussing the Plugfest

Re: [DISCUSSION] ODF Plugfest, September 2015

2015-09-04 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi > On 04 Sep 15, at 07:42, Roberto Galoppini wrote: >> >> Here at dev@ we can work up a status report that anyone could deliver and >> also development of any contributions to the interoperability testing that >> would be useful for cross-implementation

Re: [DISCUSSION] ODF Plugfest, September 2015

2015-09-04 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
ike at ACEU. Indeed, inviting them to the event and then holding much more informed and less rushed meetings there, would be good; but it would depend on them being there. best louis > > - Dennis > > -Original Message- > From: Louis Suárez-Potts [mailto:lui...@gma

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Note, to Basil, Stuart, Graham— (Wave of hello!—) Just an alert that we are cc’ing the infinitely public dev@ list. It is not a private list. What you write, including your signature, etc. will be public and stay that way. You probably know this already. And I’m being late about my warning. So

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi all, (dropped the cc’d outside of AOO). > On 04 Sep 15, at 15:32, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > Stuart, > > Thank you for your rapid response. > > I assume 2015-09-08T16:00 is UTC+0100 (BST)? > > I think there are two matters. > > First, it would be very useful to

Re: [DISCUSSION] ODF Plugfest, September 2015

2015-09-04 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 04 Sep 15, at 16:05, Roberto Galoppini <roberto.galopp...@gmail.com> wrote: > > 2015-09-04 19:39 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com>: > >> Comments inline; Roberto, feel free… >> >> > > Actually I didn't go since the Orvieto Pl

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
ish Version. >> Can you let us have the address to be put on the invoice? >> >> Shal we use the same logo as in the London version for Apache Open Office >> or is there a more recent one? >> >> Basil >> >> Basil >> >> On 4 September 2015 at 1

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-04 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
ate the process the would lead in the end to action. Louis > > - Dennis > > -Original Message- > From: Louis Suárez-Potts [mailto:lui...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 18:20 > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: ODF Plugfest: partic

Re: AOO -> LO or MS O

2015-09-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 03 Sep 15, at 09:54, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > > On 09/03/2015 08:33 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> "After LibreOffice came out, Oracle released one version of Oracle Open >> Office before deciding that the project wasn’t worth the effort >>

Re: AOO -> LO or MS O

2015-09-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 03 Sep 15, at 12:33, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 09/03/2015 07:22 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: >> >>> On 03 Sep 15, at 09:54, Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> O

Re: AOO -> LO or MS O

2015-09-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 03 Sep 15, at 15:05, Roberto Galoppini wrote: > > 2015-09-03 17:48 GMT+02:00 Dennis E. Hamilton : > >> There are users who will find the political drama compelling. There is >> nothing to be done about that. It does not make the

Re: AOO -> LO or MS O

2015-09-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 03 Sep 15, at 15:13, Rob Weir wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: >> >> >> On 09/03/2015 08:33 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >>> >>> "After LibreOffice came out, Oracle released one version of Oracle Open >>> Office before

Re: Wrongful information on the Wikipedia

2015-09-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi Max, > On 03 Sep 15, at 16:31, Max Merbald wrote: > > Hi there, > > the Engish Wikipedia claims that AOO is dormant. I can't see where they have > the information from. The sources they use don't say so. I think it's > definitely bad for OpenOffice when people think no

Re: Ian Lynch (ingotian) passed away

2015-09-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Andrea, et al., > On 03 Sep 15, at 18:01, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > I was astonished to learn, a couple days ago, that Ian Lynch passed away. > Many of you were probably closer to him and already got the news (Ian passed > away three months ago) but I don't recall

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi all, Comments inline. > On 03 Sep 15, at 16:24, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > As we discussed some weeks ago, the next ODF Plugfest will be held in The > Hague, Netherlands, mid-September: > http://plugfest.opendocumentformat.org/2015-thehague/programme/ > > There are

Re: Limiting Trademark Policy Discussion (was RE: [REPORT] PMC 2015-07 Private-List ...)

2015-08-30 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi, On 29 Aug 15, at 21:13, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: As me from my soapbox: Any proposal for reworking trademark policies would naturally grandfather prior arrangements. My hope is that any rework of policies would be more and not less generous than current reality.

Re: 2015-08-24 Future Board Reports

2015-08-24 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Dennis, On 24 Aug 15, at 21:26, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: I am changing the practice of development and submission of Reports to the Board. Technically, Reports to the Board are an accountability of the PMC Chair to the ASF Board of Directors. It is one of the

Re: [VOTE] Dennis Hamilton as new AOO Chair.

2015-08-16 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
+1 Please vote [ X] +1, I want Dennis Hamilton as new Chair -louis [ ] +0, I do not care if Dennis Hamilton becomes new Chair [ ] -1, I am against Dennis Hamilton becomes new chair (out of curtesy, please add another suggestion). Have fun voting. rgds jan i.

Re: [DISCUSS] Would you like to be the new chair of AOO ?

2015-08-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 31 Jul 15, at 17:40, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Rob Weir r...@robweir.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I would like to nominate Dennis Hamilton (orcmid), for a

Re: [DISCUSS] RE: [DISCUSS] Calendar for New chair of AOO

2015-08-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 03 Aug 15, at 14:25, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: On 3 August 2015 at 19:59, Rich Bowen rbo...@rcbowen.com wrote: On 08/03/2015 12:48 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote: It seems to me that so far we have only one candidate. Given the actual situation I'd prefer us to consider the

open source on mobile [WAS: Re: Apache open office on Anroid

2015-04-21 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hm. I think the issue below is serious. And one we can address. But do others think that way or believe otherwise? louis On 20 Apr 2015, at 13:25, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote: Or have you not noticed

Re: open source on mobile [WAS: Re: Apache open office on Anroid

2015-04-21 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 21 Apr 2015, at 17:37, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: On Tuesday, April 21, 2015, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: Hm. I think the issue below is serious. And one we can address. But do others think that way or believe otherwise? Not sure how we can really address

Re: Apache open office on Anroid

2015-04-20 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 20 Apr 2015, at 13:06, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote: Or have you not noticed that there are precious few native (as opposed to virtualised) open-source productivity tools to be found ready for the enterprise? to rephrase: productivity software, especially for enterprise, is

Re: Apache open office on Anroid

2015-04-19 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi Guy, On 19 Apr 2015, at 04:19, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote: Snip Indeed. Actually, it also prompts me to reignite conversations with EuroOffice. That they working pragmatically is wonderful news indeed. To avoid any confusion, I'm not currently working for

Re: Apache open office on Anroid

2015-04-18 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 18 Apr 2015, at 05:46, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: On Saturday, April 18, 2015, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote: 2015-04-18 10:08 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org javascript:;: On 17/04/2015 Guy Waterval wrote:

Re: Apache open office on Anroid

2015-04-17 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 17 Apr 2015, at 05:45, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Guy Waterval wrote: EuroOffice for Android is a possibility http://www.multiracio.com/index.php?lang=enstyle=euroofficepage=eo_android Is this based on the OpenOffice code? Should it be added to the porting page

Re: Apache open office on Anroid

2015-04-17 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 17 Apr 2015, at 14:49, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 17 Apr 2015, at 05:45, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Guy Waterval wrote: EuroOffice for Android is a possibility http://www.multiracio.com/index.php?lang=enstyle=euroofficepage=eo_android

Re: Apache open office on Anroid

2015-04-17 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 17 April 2015 at 17:53, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote: Hi Louis, 2015-04-17 22:26 GMT+02:00 Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com: On 17 Apr 2015, at 14:49, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 17 Apr 2015, at 05:45, Andrea Pescetti

Re: Board report proposal, please comment before April 5.

2015-04-06 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 06 Apr 2015, at 02:09, jonathon toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote: Whilst the positive present tense is the least likely to be misunderstood, it also is the format that minimizes the probability of negative consequences, if things are not rectified. Agreed. I’m also sympathetic to Simon’s

Re: IMPORTANT: Board report second version.

2015-04-05 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 05 Apr 2015, at 07:24, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: HI. I am starting a new thread where we can hopefully concentrate on making a final board report. Thanks. Just to sum up, I have replaced the original report in the board agenda, with a dummy report. The original board report

Re: [DISCUSS] Java 8 and AOO

2015-03-18 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 18 Mar 2015, at 19:35, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com wrote: On 2015-03-18, 4:46 PM Kay Schenk wrote: On 03/18/2015 09:29 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Larry, that's great. I saw that in a screen shot that showed both of them installed. Please add that link to Bugzilla issue

Re: [DISCUSS] Java 8 and AOO

2015-03-17 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 17 Mar 2015, at 20:41, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: The problems I've seen reported are apparently all on MacOS. Something about needing a legacy Java 6 to work and there is no way for the user to accomplish that, apparently. Are there others? Do you think

Re: New reporting tool for PMC, and a mail list overview.

2015-03-08 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 08-03-2015, at 15:14, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: For those who do not follow some of the foundation mailing lists. Jan, what mail lists would you recommend interested members follow? louis signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail

Re: PMC FAQ update

2015-03-05 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 05-03-2015, at 06:49, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:03 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: On 5 March 2015 at 11:42, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Dave Barton d...@tasit.net wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-02-05 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 30-01-2015, at 13:52, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Who of the two candidates do you prefer to replace Andrea Pescetti as the OpenOffice project PMC Chair? [ X] Dennis E. Hamilton (orcmid) Binding. Louis

Re: [DISCUSS] Inappropriate Compliance Costs

2015-02-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 02-02-2015, at 22:41, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 3 Feb 2015 03:29, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: Simon, This is OT. What is? I am participating in a discussion of the page referred to legal-discuss by someone else. My last contribution was a question

Re: [DISCUSS] Inappropriate Compliance Costs

2015-02-02 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Simon, This is OT. On 02-02-2015, at 12:39, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: snip S. Out of curiosity, why do you continue to support LibreOffice? After all, you visibly contribute to this project in at least a couple of areas. I haven’t checked, but I wouldn’t be surprised if

Re: [DISCUSS] Inappropriate Compliance Costs

2015-01-30 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 30-01-2015, at 15:36, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: Pedro and Jürgen, It is important to be concerned about false contrasts and comparisons. +1 snip It is more important, to me, that there be clarity about what the AOO licensing conditions are and how easy

Re: PMC Chair nominations

2015-01-30 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi, On 30-01-2015, at 12:47, Marcus marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 01/29/2015 03:56 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Reminder: the nomination deadline expires in a couple hours. See below for details. I won't start a vote immediately since Marcus is the only one who gave feedback and I want to

Re: PMC Chair nominations

2015-01-30 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 30-01-2015, at 19:04, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 31/01/2015 Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 30-01-2015, at 12:47, Marcus wrote: On 26/01/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote: Just a note in a dedicated thread to say that nominations for a new PMC Chair are to be considered open

Re: [DISCUSS] Qt as a replacement for VCL

2015-01-26 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 26 Jan 2015, at 03:42, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: * One conceivable drawback is that Kivy also uses Kivy Language, for creating sophisticated user interfaces[,] though it does not seem

Re: [NOMINATION] Dennis Hamilton for Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-26 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 25 Jan 2015, at 19:48, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: It's my birthday and it just seemed a good idea to move the needle on Priority #1. I'm rather uncomfortable about self-nomination yet I figure the conversations and discussion are of value. I hereby nominate myself

Re: [DISCUSS] Qt as a replacement for VCL

2015-01-25 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
I discovered earlier was that fun projects that could be useful but need not be are excellent ways to include more contributors. Cheers, louis - Dennis -Original Message- From: Louis Suárez-Potts [mailto:lui...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:54 To: dev

Re: [CODE] keyboard shortcut definitions

2015-01-22 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Kay, On 22 Jan 2015, at 17:58, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know where I can find information on where actual keyboard shortcut definitions -- the actual escape sequences -- are defined for use in OpenOffice. I found an old thread on where the menus are defined -- the

Re: [CANCEL] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-21 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 21 Jan 2015, at 02:38, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 15/01/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote: Do you approve that, in his capacity as the Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair, Andrea Pescetti submits a resolution to the Board asking to be replaced by Louis Suárez-Potts as the Apache

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-20 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
. :-) On 20 January 2015 at 09:32, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 20/01/15 00:29, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 19 Jan 2015, at 13:32, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: I am probably seeming very disagreeable here. Nope. You'll have to try harder :-) More seriously

Re: [DISCUSS] Qt as a replacement for VCL

2015-01-20 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Yuri, On 20 Jan 2015, at 09:55, Yuri Dario mc6...@mclink.it wrote: Hi, Have you looked at this enough to be satisfied the VCL maps to QT well enough for what AOO does? no, but since QT is a complete SDK for writing apps, I suppose it does everything AOO needs. So my question may

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2015-01-20 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Among the good things Apache offers are the general mail lists. I follow several, and the dev [at} community list has lately been of particular interest. A thread that bears tracing relates to the development of the content for A Maturity Model for Apache Projects. More generally, it's also

Re: [DISCUSS] Qt as a replacement for VCL

2015-01-20 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi, On 20 Jan 2015, at 12:53, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/20/2015 07:05 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: Yuri, On 20 Jan 2015, at 09:55, Yuri Dario mc6...@mclink.it wrote: Hi, Have you looked at this enough to be satisfied the VCL maps to QT well enough for what

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-20 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
as a successor could be elected. We had nominations and long discussions and in the end we have one candidate available to be the next OpenOffice PMC Chair: Louis Suárez-Potts. It's now time to vote. Do you approve that, in his capacity as the Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair, Andrea Pescetti submits

Attend Conservancy Supporter Night on Friday before FOSDEM 2015! - Software Freedom Conservancy

2015-01-20 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
https://sfconservancy.org/news/2015/jan/20/supporter-night-2015/ The SF Conservancy event listed above is bound to attract interesting people. If you are in the area—I'm talking Fosdem—try to find yourself there! Cheers, Louis

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-20 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 20 Jan 2015, at 14:41, V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu wrote: Andrea Pescetti-2 wrote Do you approve that, in his capacity as the Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair, Andrea Pescetti submits a resolution to the Board asking to be replaced by Louis Suárez-Potts as the Apache OpenOffice

Re: [DISCUSS] Qt as a replacement for VCL

2015-01-20 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 20 Jan 2015, at 14:28, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Louis asks about a dependency on LGPL. -- replying below to -- From: Louis Suárez-Potts [mailto:lui...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 07:05 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Qt

Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-19 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 19 Jan 2015, at 13:32, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: I am probably seeming very disagreeable here. Nope. You'll have to try harder :-) More seriously, you point to a flaw that was not evident on an abstract level but was in practice. I had an IM conversation with Andrea over

Re: buildbot notification issues, output page, etc

2015-01-16 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi On 16 Jan 2015, at 16:32, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: Hi Kay, On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 09:37:18AM -0800, Kay Schenk wrote: * We seem to again have lost notification from from buildbot on our builds. * The buildbot page for OpenOffice currently has some issues --

Re: Report 01 - scams and fraud openoffice.org/ko‏

2015-01-16 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 16 Jan 2015, at 16:57, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Zemma Yun wrote: I am a Mac OS user. I am sending this email because I want to report Korean language website www.openoffice.org/ko Thanks for your report (and to Dennis for investigating). This is now fixed. I confirm

PMC FAQs

2015-01-16 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi I was going through the site pages and came across the PMC FAQ. It seems out of date…—? http://openoffice.apache.org/pmc-faqs.html -louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional

Re: [OT] The Forking of OpenOffice.org

2015-01-16 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 16 January 2015 at 21:53, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I'm sorry, the TDF did not do that. Sun Microsystems did that and Oracle's eventual response was probably inevitable. ​Indeed. More could be said on this matter but in many ways the writing was on the wall when

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-14 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi, On 14 Jan 2015, at 07:17, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 14/01/2015 jan i wrote: I decline my nomination for personal reasons and are not voteable. Copy-pasting the same remark I sent on this list about the other four, I respect your choices and your reasons not to

Re: [DISCUSS] Qt as a replacement for VCL

2015-01-14 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 14 Jan 2015, at 12:27, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: The TL;DR: I don't think there is a reasonable way to depend on Qt in AOO. I also don't think that depending on Qt, were it feasible, would satisfy the concern that started this thread concerning the difficulty

Re: [DISCUSS] Qt as a replacement for VCL

2015-01-14 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 14 Jan 2015, at 12:46, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Wed, 14 Jan 2015 09:27:53 -0800 Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Maintaining the independently-developed VCL GUI framework is an important concern. (Then there's UNO as a cross-platform COM

Re: [DISCUSS] Qt as a replacement for VCL

2015-01-13 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 13 Jan 2015, at 23:04, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I think the licensing situation is very clear. There are two licensing arrangements. The free license is standard GPL3/LGPL3. There is a commercial license for proprietary, closed source work. That

Re: Easy Hacks

2015-01-13 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Thanks, Andrea… On 13 Jan 2015, at 17:34, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: what do we have for OpenOffice? It's at http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html, section Finding Easy Tasks. We have two predefined queries (you find

Re: issue 60552: embedding live web-pages (floating frame?) into impress slides

2015-01-13 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Alex, On 13 Jan 2015, at 17:03, Alexander Di Marco a...@cs.toronto.edu wrote: See Below Hi Rob I noticed this has not been worked on since 2013. Out of curiosity, what would be required (from a development standpoint) to implement this. Thanks Alex It’s always a pleasure to

Easy Hacks

2015-01-13 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
There’s a discussion on a FOSS list, initiated (this time) by Stefano Z. of Debian, about compiling a cross-project list of “easy hacks”. What’s easy is in the eye of the beholder, to be sure, but also in the gaze of the community. We’ve periodically come up with some things that inexperienced

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-13 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 13 Jan 2015, at 18:15, Marcus marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Don't wait for the (old|new) chair to take action. ;-) Start now yourself with stating your problems and attempts you have already done. Then we can reply to this. Yes! louis

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-12 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 12 Jan 2015, at 14:02, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 11/01/2015 Marcus wrote: IMHO this PMC is more quite than others inside Apache projects. So, I wouldn't see this as a sign that they won't follow you. Only direct talkings can help to judge this. It is important that

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-12 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 12 Jan 2015, at 17:02, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: So, what about to let both try to realize this as kind of dual chair? Since the Chair at Apache is more ceremonial than THE lead in the best case then there should be nothing to preclude both Jan and Louis from

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-12 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 12 Jan 2015, at 18:00, Marcus marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 01/12/2015 11:22 PM, schrieb Louis Suárez-Potts: On 12 Jan 2015, at 17:02, Dave Fisherdave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Asking inactive PMC to go emeritus can be done in any case. The merit does not expire and if willing

Re: Nominations for a new PMC Chair

2015-01-12 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
On 12 Jan 2015, at 18:20, jan i j...@apache.org wrote: Remark, whoever ends up getting elected (maybe we should really open up for new nominations), I will continue to work as usual. Likewise I’ll work as … well, actually, as more than usual. :-) Also: we make what we do with what we get

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